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The Birther Card!

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I am convinced that some of the birthers are delusional.
Well. that would be the current spin from the MSM.

However, doubts about the usurper is growing larger, due to the Pres--ent's continued lack of transparency.

If the woman is convicted, she can thank Orly Taitz. Set blame where blame is due.

Why not put the blame where the blame belongs?

"On Tuesday, March 15, 2011, at 9:30 a.m., a trial is scheduled for Theresa Cao, who shouted “Except Obama! Except Obama!” on January 6, 2011, when the U.S. Constitution was read aloud by the newly-sworn-in House of Representatives and Rep. Frank Pallone read the section defining requirements for the presidency.

Cao was then arrested and charged with unlawful conduct. But did she break the law? Is exposing treason against the law? Should it be?

Since Obama’s father was a British citizen, Obama was born a British citizen. Regardless of where he was born, his citizenship is British. How, then, could he possibly be considered a “natural born (U.S.) Citizen” as required by Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution?"
  1. the image posted online was not done so by Obama’s campaign until after Politifact, Factcheck.org and The Daily Kos had posted it
  2. the state of Hawaii has never asserted that the image represents anything real, nor that it was issued from its office;
  3. there were four versions of the same document posted within a short period of time, indicating that it had been altered, rendering it invalid, as stated at the bottom of a real paper Certificate of Live Birth;
  4. There is no evidence that Obama ever requested the Hawaii Department of Health to release any information about his birth, as they have consistently refused to do so, citing privacy laws;
  5. The “Certification of Live Birth” is not an original document;
  6. the original image contained a blacked-out certificate number, which also invalidated it instantly.
Governor Neil Abercrombie has stated that Hawaii has no original birth certificate for Barack Hussein Obama, contradicting his predecessor, Linda Lingle, who said that her health department director had “seen it

Who Should be on Trial…Theresa Cao or Barack Hussein Obama?| The Post & Email

“The only people that don’t want to disclose the truth, are people with something to hide.” Baraq Hussein Soetoro
 
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Well. that would be the current spin from the MSM.
Well, it would seem that that the MSM and I agree on this point.

When people resort to habitual name calling, fabrication of evidence, extreme exaggeration of reality, and general deception, I tend to wonder about the movement.

Maybe a new public relations representative would help to cut to the chase. It sounds like your argument should be that even if Obama was born in Hawaii he was not eligible to be president, i.e. natural born vs. native born.
 
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Your definition is incorrect on many fronts.

Sorry if I don't accept a 115 year old Dear Abby column by a lawyer who I don't recall being on the Supreme Court as being case law. Additionally the example of the Irish-American born to two Irish parents Percy Bridgham uses doesn't apply, the President's mother was an American. That same factor is absent from Wong-Kim.

There simply doesn't appear to be any special definition attached to "natural born citizen" in the Constitution and the President meets that criteria.

...Malkin...

Technically she's not an anchor baby, since her parents were here legally on student visas, but I'm going to keep calling her one anyway because I think it's funny.
 
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You know that people have noticed how it is an instant democrat responce to allways refer to Barry Soetoro as such. It's like the only way he can be defined by the left.


I'm hitting the three year mark! Surely, ye jest? :p

No, I'm not joking. Do you hate the president for any other reason than he's not white and of western European descent?
 
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Well, it would seem that that the MSM and I agree on this point.

When people resort to habitual name calling, fabrication of evidence, extreme exaggeration of reality, and general deception, I tend to wonder about the movement.

Are you saying you agree with the MSM resorting to "habitual name calling, fabrication of evidence, extreme exaggeration of reality, and general deception"?
 
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Are you saying you agree with the MSM resorting to "habitual name calling, fabrication of evidence, extreme exaggeration of reality, and general deception"?

Really? You have no sense of irony?

However, doubts about the usurper is growing larger, due to the Pres--ent's continued lack of transparency.

{snip PRATT}
Baraq Hussein Soetoro
 
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No, I'm not joking. Do you hate the president for any other reason than he's not white and of western European descent?
Right, why not ask if I kick my dog on Tuesday or Wednesday?

"PART 2 – WHY THEY WON’T GO AWAY
by William Lolli, ©2011"

(Mar. 23, 2011) — In Part 1 of Those Darn Birthers I examined why the Birthers are so despised by those who have a great deal to lose if they are right; that is, if Obama is not a natural born Citizen and therefore not eligible to hold the office of president.

The deeper, more resolved Birther does not care if Obama is white or black, Christian or Muslim. You will never hear a threat of violence from their lips or the use of a personal or racially-charged invective.
What you will hear, if you ever talk to one, is a deep-seated concern for the integrity of the Constitution and our civil rights.

You will hear a heart-wrenching appeal for the freedom of now-jailed US Army Lt. Colonel Lakin, whose only crime is that he asked his chain of command to validate the authority of the president as commander-in-chief.

You will hear all about the history of our country and what the Founding Fathers believed was a natural born Citizen; of how Article II, Section 1 was a defense against a sitting president having a foreign encumbrance or dual-allegiance to another power.
 
http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/03/23/those-darn-birthers-2/
 
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Right, why not ask if I kick my dog on Tuesday or Wednesday?

That doesn't answer my question. Do you hate the president for any reason other than the fact that he is not white, and is not of European descent? A rather simple question, the answer has at most only three letters, a simple yes or no will do.

Wait, I'll make it even easier: Do you hate the president for any reason other than the fact that he is not white?
 
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That doesn't answer my question. Do you hate the president for any reason other than the fact that he is not white, and is not of European descent? A rather simple question, the answer has at most only three letters, a simple yes or no will do.

Wait, I'll make it even easier: Do you hate the president for any reason other than the fact that he is not white?

This is absurd, do you really think that conservatives hate Obama or just dissagree with him because he's black? Oh my gosh, So did people dissagrees with Billy J Clinton because he was the first black Prez, or because he was too liberal in his policies? Is playing the race card all you have?
 
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This is not about conservatives in general, its not about you, this is about Herbie. Let him provide his own answer. If he hates the president for reasons other than race, all he has to do is answer "Yes". So far he is taking an awful lot of time to decide his answer.
My bet is he does want to dignify with a response, your question. I bet Herbie doesn't hate anyone.
 
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My bet is he does want to dignify with a response, your question. I bet Herbie doesn't hate anyone.
Well, our Father hated Esau before he was ever in the womb, and yet it is also written ‘we are to hate our parents more if we love the Lord.’ We know it means to love less, and we know to hate the sin and not the sinner. I have become accustom to the “race card” when posting about this subject, and have found that it is better to answer the usual lazy posts.

Thanks for being a 'stand up' kind of person. :)
 
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This is not about conservatives in general, its not about you, this is about Herbie. Let him provide his own answer. If he hates the president for reasons other than race, all he has to do is answer "Yes". So far he is taking an awful lot of time to decide his answer.
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Do you hate the president for any other reason than he's not white and of western European descent?
Do you kick your dog for any other reason than peeing on the carpet and he chewed your on your socks?
Do you hate the president for any reason other than the fact that he is not white, and is not of European descent? A rather simple question, the answer has at most only three letters, a simple yes or no will do.
Do you kick your dog for any reason other that he is shedding and has fleas?
A rather simple question, the answer …‘blah blah blah.’
 
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Sorry if I don't accept a 115 year old Dear Abby column by a lawyer who I don't recall being on the Supreme Court as being case law. Additionally the example of the Irish-American born to two Irish parents Percy Bridgham uses doesn't apply, the President's mother was an American. That same factor is absent from Wong-Kim.

There simply doesn't appear to be any special definition attached to "natural born citizen" in the Constitution and the President meets that criteria.
Obama had, and admits, dual-nationality. Having dual-nationality is mutually exclusive with the requirements to make one a natural born Citizen.


No surprises though, it seems lots of people do not understand what is a natural born Citizen.

If being a “Citizen”, or “born Citizen”, had the same exact effect as being a “natural born Citizen” then the clause in the Constitution would have no effect.

A natural born Citizen has no other allegiance other then to this nation, naturally, meaning by God’s nature, no man made law about it, there is no other choice due to the allegiance of parents who are both citizens and themselves having allegiance to this nation and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Exactly the one method that requires no interpretation of law. The Citizenship is completely and utterly self-evident. "Self-evident" is the other word for "Natural", as in "Natural Law" and "natural born Citizen".



Technically she's not an anchor baby, since her parents were here legally on student visas, but I'm going to keep calling her one anyway because I think it's funny.
Ugh..
 
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"Trump Card Beats Race Card"

"The unexpected nightmare of the liberals, the flat-earth eligibility deniers, and the apologists/defenders of Obama is now creeping into their psyche, and most importantly FRONT PAGE NEWS. No longer can they deny that Obama is undocumented, has lied about his entire 'career' ... is a foreigner who has usurped the United States, and can't even talk without a teleprompter.... The fact that the Constitutionalists have been right all along is now fully showing itself in the shrill, cackling, frenzy that has erupted from Obama's frenetric supporters since Donald Trump broke the dam of silence. ... Whoopie's stupidly frantic remark about 'no white president has been asked to show his birth certificate' (on The View) lays bare the use of the race card as the only defense of Obama. The View's sophisticated ladies lost it."

http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/

Go Trump!
 
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Remember, these are MYTHS. Feel free to add more.
Obot myths

Hawaii released a copy of Obama's birth certificate

Obama showed his birth certificate to the proper authorities in order to run for president.

Obama's COLB must be real because Hillary Clinton would have found something on Obama if it wasn't real.

The state of Hawaii has said Obama's birth certificate are real.

The CIA/FBI or other agencies did a background check on Obama and would have kept him from running for president if he wasn't born in the U.S.

The newspaper announcements show that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Nothing Obama can show would do any good, so he shouldn't have to provide an actual, legal birth record.

No other president/candidate has ever been questioned, and Obama is only questioned because of his race.

Obama would be a citizen no matter where he was born because his mom was a citizen.

Obama circulated a Certificate of Live Birth and gave it to the press to look at in 2008.

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