The Bible Right Or Wrong!

[mark53]

SKYDANCING.....

You might be able to glean from this post:

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Mark53,

Tell me why you are so hurt that your wrath is towards
God's Word. Asking "why," tells me that your not all indifferent
from others who are asking why also. That you really want
to know.......but knowledge doesn't sooth the savage beast,
per se. This isn't your nor my answers to things, especially
when it comes to God's Son.

So tell me who has hurt you and we can somehow find a safe
place for both of us to talk this out where not only knowledge
will suffice but your hurts will be healed. I have hurts too this
is why I can ask this about you too, you know!?

QUOTE]

Why should I be "hurt" or "angry" just because I have different ideas on things than others! I am quite the opposite. I like to read and study and I love the Greek and trying to learn the Hebrew and read as much as I can on various ideas of what the Christian writings mean to us today.
I do not ask why something is - I enjoy asking questions about anything to see if there is anything that I (or others) have missed previously

 

[Jesus Is Real]

mark53,

I am glad you have at least looked at the Law!
Now what does the Law point you too? Perfection right?
It is Perfection to not have mold in your life.
It is Perfection to not have evil in your life....in your walls.
Ever heard the term "Walls of Salvation"?

Isaiah 60:18
18. Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.

The Law speaks of a Perfect Work in God.
He who has no Mold.
He who has no evil on His Walls.

Mark53, In Christ you are complete because as He comes He fulfills the Law, and when He comes again he will complete the Fulfillment of The Law through Fulfilling the Last Feast: The Feast of Tabernacles.

Mark53,

Read this again what I replied back to you!

Take care!

 

[Jesus Is Real]

SKYDANCING.....

You might be able to glean from this post:

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Mark53,

Tell me why you are so hurt that your wrath is towards
God's Word. Asking "why," tells me that your not all indifferent
from others who are asking why also. That you really want
to know.......but knowledge doesn't sooth the savage beast,
per se. This isn't your nor my answers to things, especially
when it comes to God's Son.

So tell me who has hurt you and we can somehow find a safe
place for both of us to talk this out where not only knowledge
will suffice but your hurts will be healed. I have hurts too this
is why I can ask this about you too, you know!?

QUOTE]

Why should I be "hurt" or "angry" just because I have different ideas on things than others! I am quite the opposite. I like to read and study and I love the Greek and trying to learn the Hebrew and read as much as I can on various ideas of what the Christian writings mean to us today.
I do not ask why something is - I enjoy asking questions about anything to see if there is anything that I (or others) have missed previously

Mark53,

I see your point in asking, np.

You seem to be an unbeliever, are you?
Or are you A Born Again, not by your own will or making or anyother church making you call yourself this or even to call yourself a Christian, Christian by GOD?

 

[FLANDIDLYANDERS]

OK. What's up with this thread? I thought I introduced tangents.... hehe.

So the Bible... that old book right? Well, like Mark53 I like the Greek and Hebrew... got friends who read that stuff so I often have to ask them about things...

Truth is truth. Bible, Hagakure, CurryMenu.

Let's be honest... how boring is the Bible? I mean the English ones, even the "originals" are tedious,but translation is more interesting methinx. Personally, I read sci-fi.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

OK. What's up with this thread? I thought I introduced tangents.... hehe.

So the Bible... that old book right? Well, like Mark53 I like the Greek and Hebrew... got friends who read that stuff so I often have to ask them about things...

Truth is truth. Bible, Hagakure, CurryMenu.

Let's be honest... how boring is the Bible? I mean the English ones, even the "originals" are tedious,but translation is more interesting methinx. Personally, I read sci-fi.

FLANDIDLYANDERS,

Sci-fi, eh?

Yeah I've been an Trekker for years--even after I was Born again.
I even like Yoda.........I love Star Wars.
But not above The Lord.

I suppose your sci-fi with the Lord will happen when it's time.......all is suggnificant so Sci-fi on my friend.........nothing stops God to break through
even in the midst of Sci-fi reading!

I was told by The Lord about a 4 years ago when I was pondering over a situation in our Family---in my sisters life, He said:

"I use everything,...I waste nothing."

Take care my new friend!

 

[Wiffey]

It really blows my mind how folks are equating having a non-literal view of the Bible as rejecting Christ. I worship God, not a book, however nifty that book may be.

I have great respect for the Scriptures, but they are not God. They may be inspired by God, but they were written down by human beings, and human beings are fallible (IMO).

Just because I do not hold the view that the Bible is inerrant does not mean that I do not love God and seek Christ with all of my heart.

Obviously I do not agree with a Fundamentalist view on the Bible, but I acknowledge that Fundamentalists love Christ as well and are honestly seeking to serve Him. It seems that respect does not flow both ways...

 

[mark53]

Mark53,

I see your point in asking, np.

You seem to be an unbeliever, are you?
Or are you A Born Again, not by your own will or making or anyother church making you call yourself this or even to call yourself a Christian, Christian by GOD?

As the quote mentioned previous - I do not know what you are getting at. But, I'll add this! The "mould" referred to is from Lev 13:47-59 & 14:33-57. I mentioned this as if we are to take the Bible fully as literal and / or to still be applicab;e today we must also obey these silly laws. That was the point of mentioning "mould" not 'mold' - two totally different words.

I do not see how the Isa passage refers to me as I am not that thick skinned (I hope! ) [the walls] Please explain!


I AM a believer and do lots of reading and study and really enjoy the Greek and trying to learn Hebrew to get at what the writers were saying! ALL Christians should do this as it strengthens their understandings of the Scriptures! Terms like "born again" etc are man made labels put on others for reasons of power and putting down of those who disagree with the person labelling them. This is not Biblical and is against what Jesus taught in every way.

 

[mark53]

It really blows my mind how folks are equating having a non-literal view of the Bible as rejecting Christ. I worship God, not a book, however nifty that book may be.

I have great respect for the Scriptures, but they are not God. They may be inspired by God, but they were written down by human beings, and human beings are fallible (IMO).

Just because I do not hold the view that the Bible is inerrant does not mean that I do not love God and seek Christ with all of my heart.

Obviously I do not agree with a Fundamentalist view on the Bible, but I acknowledge that Fundamentalists love Christ as well and are honestly seeking to serve Him. It seems that respect does not flow both ways...

I agree whole-heartedly! It is really saying "If you don't agree with MY understanding than God doesn't agree either!" So the "I" is greater than "God". People with those views shoul;d be very careful as they might be mis-understood!

Any way we worship God not the Bible! Or, is it the quadrangle, instead of the trinity!.

 

[FLANDIDLYANDERS]

"I use everything,...I waste nothing."

Indeed. But pls, no lectures.

 

[mark53]

"I use everything,...I waste nothing."


I heard of people like that they keep everything including rubbish and dirty food stuff!

 

[lookoutman7]

A person must be very careful with their walk with God.

The Book Of Revelation speaks plainly about what to expect for altering the scriptures. Do you want to take that chance?

Revelation 22 18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book...

Be very careful - does a person want to take such a chance? The Bible is...

 

[Polycarp1]

A person must be very careful with their walk with God.

The Book Of Revelation speaks plainly about what to expect for altering the scriptures. Do you want to take that chance?

Revelation 22 18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book...

Be very careful - does a person want to take such a chance? The Bible is...

Except "this book" is clearly the Revelation of Jesus Christ to St. John the Divine, not the Bible, which wouldn't be in existence as a two-testament volume taken as a coherent whole for another two centuries after that was written.

And in any case, if it did mean the Bible as a whole, that would condemn every Protestant ever alive, in that they dropped at least seven books from the Bible-as-known-before-the-Reformation.

 

[lookoutman7]

Polycarp1-

You did exactly...exactly...what I thought you would do - follow me! You do what you like, my friend - God's very word condemns you. -I'm a speck of dust in God's eyes - but I will stick to what he has to say.

You read it how you like, adjust the actual text to your liking. Revelation 22 18-19 speaks for itself. If you my friend, want to actually take even the remote chance that the Bible isn't what it says it is...you won't be my guest. It is a very dangerous thing to even take that chance - the chance that it isn't true.

As for you following me - if that's what turns your crank. I'm not interested in following you, reading your many...many...many, posts, or whatever. I won't be responsible for you. You walk that path.

Feel free to highlight any of this if you wish...as I'm sure you or others will. But if I was you - don't highlight the Word Of God. (And I'm sincere about the
last part.) When you will have to deal with that - both you and I will have seen the grave.

 

[Athene]

Except "this book" is clearly the Revelation of Jesus Christ to St. John the Divine, not the Bible, which wouldn't be in existence as a two-testament volume taken as a coherent whole for another two centuries after that was written.

And in any case, if it did mean the Bible as a whole, that would condemn every Protestant ever alive, in that they dropped at least seven books from the Bible-as-known-before-the-Reformation.

Jolly good, me like, it is an infinite source of amusement to me that inerrant bible advocates will use 'proof texts' such as the one from Revelation and attempt to apply it to the whole bible when it couldn't possibly be, because as you mentioned the bible didn't exist until much later.

And lookout man, you did exactly what every other person does who uses proof texts to back up the idea of the inerrant bible, you don't even attempt to explain why Rev 22 18-19 should be applied to the whole bible, but instead but instead make vague threats about divine retribution.

Maybe if I ask a direct question . . .
What evidence is there to suggest that Rev 22 18-19 should be applied to the whole bible and not just the book in which it was written?

 

[Jesus Is Real]

As the quote mentioned previous - I do not know what you are getting at. But, I'll add this! The "mould" referred to is from Lev 13:47-59 & 14:33-57. I mentioned this as if we are to take the Bible fully as literal and / or to still be applicab;e today we must also obey these silly laws. That was the point of mentioning "mould" not 'mold' - two totally different words.

I do not see how the Isa passage refers to me as I am not that thick skinned (I hope! ) [the walls] Please explain!


I AM a believer and do lots of reading and study and really enjoy the Greek and trying to learn Hebrew to get at what the writers were saying! ALL Christians should do this as it strengthens their understandings of the Scriptures! Terms like "born again" etc are man made labels put on others for reasons of power and putting down of those who disagree with the person labelling them. This is not Biblical and is against what Jesus taught in every way.

mark53,

Yes I did my Greek and Hebrew studys in dept for a long time and then The Holy Spirit said I'll tell you what it's saying. In a sense, get your face out of those book (definition of words of Greek and of Hebrew which I many books that were a friend of mine while I was living there when I lost it all, even my son who was kidnapped by his father--anyway) get your face out of those books and ASK ME! Well, God's Spirit was right, He WAS THE ONE who inspired those Holy men to inscribe (if you will) the Pattern of Christ on paper.

Mould: Oh ok! My opps then!
Well I hope you glean from the MOLD pitch anyway, I know I did!

but you did say: "e.g. the way we are supposed to get rid of mold" I suppose that's why I talked about ",.....mold" because you said it like that.

Walls? What Salvation walls? Pretty explainatory isn't it.
Have you never heard a Man/or Woman of God talk about your Walls of Salvation. Don't you know that if you Have Christ in your life through His Spirit that Isaiah's "Walls of Salvation" are in you now, and it is Christ was The Father raised from the dead, that you might also be raised out of dead works?

About the Law: The Law is Spiritual your flesh in it's works will never be able to keep the Law----BUT in Star Wars Obi-Wan said, when Luke as flying away from his initial training, "He was our last hope." But Yoda answered back, "NO, THERE IS ANOTHER"......so actually Christ in you/Christ in us is Establishing the Law in your heart right now---THERE IS ANOTHER who is keeping the LAW in you RIGHT NOW, if you are led by The Spirit of Christ to the putting to death the deeds of your flesh:

[bible]Galatians 5:19-26[/bible]

Take care!~

Any questions?

 

[FLANDIDLYANDERS]

Jesus (Gospels) = excellent. The rest of the Bible = commentary.

 

[Polycarp1]

Polycarp1-

You did exactly...exactly...what I thought you would do - follow me! You do what you like, my friend - God's very word condemns you. -I'm a speck of dust in God's eyes - but I will stick to what he has to say.

You read it how you like, adjust the actual text to your liking. Revelation 22 18-19 speaks for itself. If you my friend, want to actually take even the remote chance that the Bible isn't what it says it is...you won't be my guest. It is a very dangerous thing to even take that chance - the chance that it isn't true.

As for you following me - if that's what turns your crank. I'm not interested in following you, reading your many...many...many, posts, or whatever. I won't be responsible for you. You walk that path.

Feel free to highlight any of this if you wish...as I'm sure you or others will. But if I was you - don't highlight the Word Of God. (And I'm sincere about the
last part.) When you will have to deal with that - both you and I will have seen the grave.

Since you've chosen to take this as personal, I will respond in public once. I have posted to this thread and subscribed to it well before you made that post. I will serve my Lord as He gives me strength and guidance, and if it means defending His Word against false teachings, then so be it.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

As the quote mentioned previous - I do not know what you are getting at. But, I'll add this! The "mould" referred to is from Lev 13:47-59 & 14:33-57.

mark53,


Lev 13:47-50
47 The garment also that the plague of leprosy is in, whether it be a woollen garment, or a linen garment;

48 Whether it be in the warp, or woof; of linen, or of woollen; whether in a skin, or in any thing made of skin;

49 And if the plague be greenish or reddish in the garment, or in the skin, either in the warp, or in the woof, or in any thing of skin; it is a plague of leprosy, and shall be shewed unto the priest:

50 And the priest shall look upon the plague, and shut up it that hath the plague seven days:

So your talking about Leprosy?

If you are there is a Spiritual Leprosy that is still in us, by Faith it's gone, but The Spirit of Christ will show us how His Death took care of it.....but walking us through His Death in Sanctification of His Spirit. The Law is Spiritual. And where is our spirit it's inside of us, so what is God talking about, Really, our lives on the inside of us that has expression of what's inside out.

In other words: When you are angry inside, you walk out to your car and you see your neighbor out of the corner of your eye but because you are angry inside (thinking others made you mad) you tell yourself I'm not going to smile and say Hi cause so and so made me mad. So, anger inside causes us outwardly to make Justifications. This is Spiritual Leprosy, we are numb to our neighbors, our feelings (our nerve endings) towards others and ourselves are cut off. When we get like this, it's Actually a Judgment from God. For, when we don't follow Him He told Israel that He'll cut them off. So, we are getting a hint to how God really is. He HOLY....and chastises those He loves, though they rebel against Him. So, when we don't follow Him by The Spirit of Christ, He will cut us off and thus a curse comes upon us. It's the Old story of Adam and Eve.

When we obey we have all right to Eat Life and Blessing from God.
When we disobey we have no right but to receive God's Curses.

So, this is LITERAL STUFF, my friend?
Your heart is real.
Your neighbor is real.
And God who is taken accounts is real, blessing those who are unjust but by no means leaving the guilt unpunished!

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Jesus (Gospels) = excellent. The rest of the Bible = commentary.

Fl,

I beg your pardon, if you shall allow me to speak with you!

But after the Gospel is preached of what Jesus could say about The Good News, The Holy Spirit comes next, which Jesus couldn't tell you/tell them certain things at that point until they/you/me Received the Holy Spirit and what God's Spirit told them what Jesus at that time couldn't say to them now Christ' Spirit is saying it through the Rest of The Writtings. And the Old Testament was also looking into and being Amazed at the Hope that would come to God's People in the end times! It's still ALL OF GOD'S WORD. What do you think the Holy Spirit talked about in instructions to us? His Spirit talked to us about The Law of God that is Spiritual.

Like what's in your NAS or your KJV or NKJV Bible.

If not, we get no instructions by GOD'S WORD on how to Carry on Walking With Jesus through His Spirit. It's just not MATTHEW MARK LUKE AND JOHN and then ONLY commentaries, no no..... It's the HOLY SPIRIT'S TIME OF PREACHING AND COMPLETING THE GOOD NEWS. The Holy Spirit through Paul said, "My Gospel" at which point Jesus could speak about because they weren't ready to hear yet.

[bible]John 16:12-14[/bible]
[bible]Romans 2:16[/bible]
[bible]Romans 16:25[/bible]
[bible]2 Timothy 2:8[/bible]

So, begging your pardon again, if I might ask you:
Do you mean to tell me that you don't TAKE in your HEART
AS "GOD'S TRUTH" The Word or the Spirit in Acts?
or The Word or the Spirit in Romans,
Or Ephesians...or Revelation and the like?

Is the Holy Spirit now just a commentary work and nothing else?

And I'm not taking about the pages or the ink but ~The Word of God's Word~ that IS WRITTEN and to be written Spiritually on our hearts?

 

[Jesus Is Real]

A person must be very careful with their walk with God.

The Book Of Revelation speaks plainly about what to expect for altering the scriptures. Do you want to take that chance?

Revelation 22 18-19 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book...

Be very careful - does a person want to take such a chance? The Bible is...

SO TRUE!