The Bible Proves Evolution

[coffee4u]

In my grandmother's day, they drove Model-Ts. What day was that? Why it was May 1, 1914; it was the only day she got.

Good try. Obviously day used in that context does not mean a literal day.
Genesis does not use day in that way.

Genesis 1
5: And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day
8: And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
13: And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

6 days is also mentioned twice outside of Genesis just in case someone wanted to quibble that.
Exodus 20:11
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

Exodus 31:17

It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labour, and was refreshed.”

 

[coffee4u]

That's the way you do it.

The creation week is not a normal, 9 to 5, type of week.

1 John 2:18
Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.

See, one hour is not really one hour.

Sorry but I believe it is.
Exodus 20:11
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

 

[Shemjaza]

Good try. Obviously day used in that context does not mean a literal day.
Genesis does not use day in that way.

Genesis 1
5: And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day
8: And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
13: And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

6 days is also mentioned twice outside of Genesis just in case someone wanted to quibble that.
Exodus 20:11
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

Exodus 31:17

It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labour, and was refreshed.”

So a literal day... with a figurative evening and morning?

The Sun doesn't show up till "day" 4.

 

[coffee4u]

So a literal day... with a figurative evening and morning?

The Sun doesn't show up till "day" 4.

A literal day with a literal evening and morning. All you need is a large enough light source and a turning earth to begin a day and night cycle.

God said he made some other light source for days 1-3.
A lot of ancient civilizations worshiped the sun, leaving it until day 4 could have been God's way of lessening its importance.

 

[Shemjaza]

A literal day with a literal evening and morning. All you need is a large enough light source and a turning earth to begin a day and night cycle.

God said he made some other light source for days 1-3.
A lot of ancient civilizations worshiped the sun, leaving it until day 4 could have been God's way of lessening its importance.

Except neither this large light source or a turning Earth are mentioned yet.

On day one, it's just light and darkness... no sun, no planet.

Seems very metaphorical.

 

[messianist]

In response to my question about being on the lookout for "unnatural man"

(I fixed what appears to be a broken quote tag in your quote of me. Hopefully this is what you intended to write to me.)

When I look in the mirror, I see a natural man, not an unnatural man, and a close relative of the chimps.

I was born of a woman, that is the normal, natural way, and before "test-tube babies" so you can't pin that "unnaturalness" on me. I am made of human cells that are made with the known elements, so that seems natural to me. I don't have supernatural powers, so I would seem to stay in the natural category. I'm still not sure what these unnatural men I should be looking out for.

Yours truly, a somewhat bewildered, but natural man.

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[DebbieJ]

I'm a Christian and I believe that evolution took place and the Lord used the process of evolution to create living things.

Out of the same clay, life was created. Just look at our DNA. It's the same double helix structure and chemical composition for all living things, just arranged differently.

 

[coffee4u]

Except neither this large light source or a turning Earth are mentioned yet.

On day one, it's just light and darkness... no sun, no planet.

Seems very metaphorical.

There is a planet
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty
Unless someone wants to argue for a flat earth I don't see what other shape it will be but spherical.

There is a light source.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

There is an evening and a morning
And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
I don't see how else the earth could have a day and night cycle and a completed day without it turning.

 

[coffee4u]

I'm a Christian and I believe that evolution took place and the Lord used the process of evolution to create living things.

Out of the same clay, life was created. Just look at our DNA. It's the same double helix structure and chemical composition for all living things, just arranged differently.

And how do you mesh evolution over millions of years of death with the Bible saying God made it in 6 days?

Exodus 20:11
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

 

[DebbieJ]

And how do you mesh evolution over millions of years of death with the Bible saying God made it in 6 days?

Exodus 20:11
For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

I think I've already addressed that in the other thread or was it this thread? I'm already confused. lol

 

[Shemjaza]

There is a planet
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty
Unless someone wants to argue for a flat earth I don't see what other shape it will be but spherical.

"Formless and void" is a far cry from spherical.

There is a light source.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

No, there's light.

You are projecting a bland prosaic image onto Genesis that isn't supported by the text.

The Bible doesn't say: "And then God made a glowey thing... but he didn't like it so got rid of it and made a couple more."

There is an evening and a morning
And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
I don't see how else the earth could have a day and night cycle and a completed day without it turning.

Hence a literal reading is inconsistent and you are applying your modern knowledge of the planet's structure to a poetic statement about the creation of the world.

When Jesus says "I am the way" do you think he is literally a narrow street?

 

[DebbieJ]

"Formless and void" is a far cry from spherical.

I agree. Formless and void means without material existence.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

Gamma rays, X-rays, infra-red, radio waves, visible light are all made out of photons with different frequencies. This is the electromagnetic spectrum. According to a science article I've read, scientists have successfully created matter out of light.

So, let there be light written in another way is "Let there be an electromagnetic spectrum" where light will be used to create matter.

Ref: Out Of Pure Light, Physicists Create Particles Of Matter

We now have the first ingredients to create the material universe -- from light.

 

[DebbieJ]

Gen 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
--

The earth here did not exist yet. It was formless and void -- without material existence. The waters mentioned here is not H2O as nothing was created yet. This "waters" is actually describing a "superfluid" universe, which I believe existed before creation, that is, the big bang.

Are we living underwater? Researchers believe the universe might be a liquid superfluid | Daily Mail Online

"Researchers believe the universe might be a 'liquid superfluid'."

 

[Hans Blaster]

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

This still doesn't explain "natural man". I suspect it is not a coherent concept. "Spiritually discerned" doesn't have any meaning of which I am aware. Your prose has gotten more muddled with bizarre grammar (receiveth, really), I can't make heads, nor tails of it.

 

[messianist]

Your a lost soul.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Your a lost soul.

No, I am a human who doesn't believe in souls, spirts, or post-mortem life. So I'm just going to leave it at that with you considering me unnatural since I don't have a "soul".

 

[messianist]

No, I am a human who doesn't believe in souls, spirts, or post-mortem life. So I'm just going to leave it at that with you considering me unnatural since I don't have a "soul".

I said your a lost soul , one who believes in his own intalect.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I said your a lost, one who believes in his own intalect.

I also believe in spelling and grammar.

 

[messianist]

I also believe in spelling and grammar.

Waw look at you very observing.

 

[messianist]

I also believe in spelling and grammar.

All of one word mist.