The Attack on Christianity

[Shane Roach]

Christians arrested at homosexual event

Over and over again, homosexuality as a "civil right" is used as a stick to beat Christians with. In what sense do we have freedom of speech when child porn is protected (CNN.com - Supreme Court strikes down ban on 'virtual child porn' - April 18, 2002) but the expression of political views is criminalized?

All of the various attacks on laws meant to maintain a standard of accepted sexual behavior have the net result of demonizing and criminalizing what are in actuality simply proper attitudes and common sense. At each and every step of the way, personal attacks and insults have been the weapon of choice. People who oppose porn are prudes. People who oppose sexual activity outside of marriage, or who oppose "recreational" violent sexual activities (Sadismn and Masochism), are labeled "busybodies". Every sexual deviancy has its group of moral and political supporters. Yet how can anyone know if someone has actually been assaulted sexually if people consider violent sex just another lifestyle choice? How do you distinguish rape from consensual sex after the fact?

Wake up folks. People have been warning you for decades. Now it is here. Look at the USSR, at China, at North Korea. The times have not changed so much. Totalitarianism, violence, debauchery, and hideous tyranny are NOT the stuff of nightmares born of bygone eras where ignorance fueled hatred. These things are here today, and growing at an alarming rate in our own nation. They are, now as they were then, the straight forward result of abandoning or denying God.

There will come a day when the entire world will abandon God save a very few, as it says in the Bible.

2 Thess 2:3

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
KJV

But does that time have to be now? Is it our generation that will abandon God, or will we return, as many generations before us have done to their credit? It's not too late.

Time to take a stand. It's only going to get more dangerous the longer you wait.

 

[Mercy Medical]

You can take a small group of individuals and then blame the entire population of "homosexuals."

From what little I read in the article, it seems as though they were unjustly arrested and even though I am a lesbian myself, I would agree that it was wrong of that to happen.

Stop point fingers at an entire group and making yourself out to be some kind of victim. It's just obnoxious. This kind of thing goes both ways.

 

[wanderingone]

Christians arrested at homosexual event

Over and over again, homosexuality as a "civil right" is used as a stick to beat Christians with. In what sense do we have freedom of speech when child porn is protected (CNN.com - Supreme Court strikes down ban on 'virtual child porn' - April 18, 2002) but the expression of political views is criminalized?

All of the various attacks on laws meant to maintain a standard of accepted sexual behavior have the net result of demonizing and criminalizing what are in actuality simply proper attitudes and common sense. At each and every step of the way, personal attacks and insults have been the weapon of choice. People who oppose porn are prudes. People who oppose sexual activity outside of marriage, or who oppose "recreational" violent sexual activities (Sadismn and Masochism), are labeled "busybodies". Every sexual deviancy has its group of moral and political supporters. Yet how can anyone know if someone has actually been assaulted sexually if people consider violent sex just another lifestyle choice? How do you distinguish rape from consensual sex after the fact?

Wake up folks. People have been warning you for decades. Now it is here. Look at the USSR, at China, at North Korea. The times have not changed so much. Totalitarianism, violence, debauchery, and hideous tyranny are NOT the stuff of nightmares born of bygone eras where ignorance fueled hatred. These things are here today, and growing at an alarming rate in our own nation. They are, now as they were then, the straight forward result of abandoning or denying God.

There will come a day when the entire world will abandon God save a very few, as it says in the Bible.

But does that time have to be now? Is it our generation that will abandon God, or will we return, as many generations before us have done to their credit? It's not too late.

Time to take a stand. It's only going to get more dangerous the longer you wait.

Can you find something more recent and that actually demonstrates an attack on Christianity?

It's strange- nobody has ever impeded in any way the practice of my faith. I attend church as often as I want, nobody stands in front of the doors trying to block my entrance. I pray whenever I want, I read whatever Christian literature I want.

where is this attack on my faith?

 

[LittleNipper]

You can take a small group of individuals and then blame the entire population of "homosexuals."

From what little I read in the article, it seems as though they were unjustly arrested and even though I am a lesbian myself, I would agree that it was wrong of that to happen.

Stop point fingers at an entire group and making yourself out to be some kind of victim. It's just obnoxious. This kind of thing goes both ways.

But that they were arrested at all should make one wonder exactly what is happening to real freedom.

 

[b&wpac4]

If WND posted a story that suggested that water was wet, I'd want outside collaboration.

 

[Mercy Medical]

But that they were arrested at all should make one wonder exactly what is happening to real freedom.

And that is not an issue to be had with the homosexual community, that is an issue to be had with police corruption in general which is running rampant throughout this country and doesn't necessarily focus on any particular minority or majority (okay, some police corruption focuses on minorities, but I hope you get what I'm saying).

This has nothing to do with homosexuality or the "homosexual agenda" as so many like to put it and has everything to do with police arresting people for asinine reasons...but then again I don't know if the story provided is telling the 100% truth because I find it a bit of a stretch for so many people to get arrested for something so seemingly docile.

 

[wanderingone]

You can take a small group of individuals and then blame the entire population of "homosexuals."

From what little I read in the article, it seems as though they were unjustly arrested and even though I am a lesbian myself, I would agree that it was wrong of that to happen.

Stop point fingers at an entire group and making yourself out to be some kind of victim. It's just obnoxious. This kind of thing goes both ways.

The outfest story is from about 5 years ago - another point of view regarding the event

Philly Pride Presents - News
http://www.washblade.com/print.cfm?content_id=10825

Repent America appeared there to intentionally disrupt an event (not for the first time) and mind you.. the hate crime charges were dropped and the event organizers themselves agreed that the charges were over the top

 

[Mercy Medical]

Honestly, it's just rude for the protesters to show up to an event like that. An event that is meant to celebrate diversity and to be proud of who you are. It's an event that provides a comfortable atmosphere for many who have to deal with discrimination on a daily basis or have to hide who they truly are for fear of discrimination.

You don't see gay protest groups going to churches on Sunday morning and protesting religion.

And I didn't even realize this story was so old...how is this relevant?

 

[Washington]

If WND posted a story that suggested that water was wet, I'd want outside collaboration.

 

[wanderingone]

Honestly, it's just rude for the protesters to show up to an event like that. An event that is meant to celebrate diversity and to be proud of who you are. It's an event that provides a comfortable atmosphere for many who have to deal with discrimination on a daily basis or have to hide who they truly are for fear of discrimination.

You don't see gay protest groups going to churches on Sunday morning and protesting religion.

And I didn't even realize this story was so old...how is this relevant?

Well on top of being just plain obnoxious...

Court records show that police officers assigned to patrol the 2004 Outfest event ordered the Repent America members to move to the perimeter of the multi-block street festival after crowds of gay participants began to shout at them and police became worried about a possible violent clash. Police also ordered a group of Outfest volunteers to stop blocking the Repent America members from entering the festival site.

In anticipation of the Repent America members attending the event, Outfest volunteers came armed with large, pink Styrofoam boards shaped like angel’s wings, which they used to block the Repent America members from approaching the festival’s main stage, according to an account by Voltz.

Police said the Outfest volunteers complied with their order but the Repent America members did not. Instead, the Repent America members, led by organizer Michael Marcavage, walked in a different direction than the one police directed them to follow. Marcavage told police he would not go to the perimeter of the event, as requested by police, and he lied down in the street.

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[wanderingone]

And..

Last time I checked Jesus did not suggest I run around with signs and bullhorns calling people names and belittling them as a method of sharing his message. Being told I'm not allowed to cause a riot may possibly be interpreted as in some way inhibiting my constitutional right to free speech in the US but it certainly doesn't keep me from practicing my faith.

 

[Joachim]

Ok, we have some areas of agreement. Particularly when it comes to thing such as the death penalty and gun rights. Also, to a degree on state's rights too because I recall you agreeing with a portion of my state's rights position. However, I do find some issues with what has been written here and as a southern gentleman I feel it is my duty to address them.

Before I even begin. Credible sourcing needs to be taken into account. World Nut Daily does not fall into that league.

People who oppose porn are prudes.

Well to an extent, yes. I don't necessarily like porn, but, it is protected by the constitution.

People who oppose sexual activity outside of marriage, or who oppose "recreational" violent sexual activities (Sadismn and Masochism), are labeled "busybodies".

Not necessarily. As for adultery, committing adultery in the wrong town can kill your social standing. As for BDSM. If it is a consensual act being undertaken then I don't see what the harm is. I certainly think all of the BDSM parades are a little tacky and ridiculous. But, they should be allowed to have their own bars, their own organizations, etc, because not everyone is into that kind of thing and so if they are looking for someone who is, well, it's like a gay guy hitting on one of us in one of our bars. Gays have their own bars for a reason and I think the same should apply to the BDSM community.

Every sexual deviancy has its group of moral and political supporters

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The question is, how do you define sexual deviancy? Also, how do we talk about this on a Christian site where children are reading, because some of the technical terms can get complicated? For example, I want to ask if all sex is deviant except for a certain kind, but because I don't know if I can make a reference to a particular "position" I don't know if I can make that comment.

Yet how can anyone know if someone has actually been assaulted sexually if people consider violent sex just another lifestyle choice?
How do you distinguish rape from consensual sex after the fact?

What you are talking about would for the most part, be classed under BDSM, and most participants in BDSM are either actual couples, or are aficiandos that have clear and precise contracts drawn up before any act takes place. I in fact wonder how they can do such a thing, to have everything drawn up in a contract. Seems to me it would kill spontaneity but it is their choice.

Wake up folks. People have been warning you for decades. Now it is here. Look at the USSR, at China, at North Korea.

The USSR has fallen and Russia has a freer government than the majority of countries on earth. Russia actually has a better system of federalism than we do.

The times have not changed so much. Totalitarianism, violence, debauchery, and hideous tyranny are NOT the stuff of nightmares born of bygone eras where ignorance fueled hatred. These things are here today, and growing at an alarming rate in our own nation. They are, now as they were then, the straight forward result of abandoning or denying God.

I don't think totalitarianism can come to the U.S. in the absence of a complete Weimar style collapse. Now, if we become Weimar, then all bets or off, but the institutions of this country are remarkably resilient. Even though I criticize Reconstruction, and the crimes committed against our people from 1862-77, one thing that is true is that in the Northern states, even at the height of that war, Lincoln did hold an election. Kentucky went very strongly against Lincoln, so people felt free to vote their voice. We held the election in 1944. We actually have a pretty good system.
There will come a day when the entire world will abandon God save a very few, as it says in the Bible.

But does that time have to be now? Is it our generation that will abandon God, or will we return, as many generations before us have done to their credit? It's not too late.

Time to take a stand. It's only going to get more dangerous the longer you wait.

Everything ebbs and flows. The U.S. became more "modern" on religion in the 30's and 40's, swung back for a few decades, is swinging back the other way right now and will eventually swing back again

 

[jpcedotal]

I think there is an attack on Christianity on this site.

 

[b&wpac4]

I think there is an attack on Christianity on this site.

Could you elaborate on this?

 

[Belk]

Christians arrested at homosexual event

Over and over again, homosexuality as a "civil right" is used as a stick to beat Christians with. In what sense do we have freedom of speech when child porn is protected (CNN.com - Supreme Court strikes down ban on 'virtual child porn' - April 18, 2002) but the expression of political views is criminalized?

And darn it, why can't I shout fire in a crowded theater? It's persecution I tell ya!

All of the various attacks on laws meant to maintain a standard of accepted sexual behavior have the net result of demonizing and criminalizing what are in actuality simply proper attitudes and common sense. At each and every step of the way, personal attacks and insults have been the weapon of choice. People who oppose porn are prudes. People who oppose sexual activity outside of marriage, or who oppose "recreational" violent sexual activities (Sadismn and Masochism), are labeled "busybodies".

I know, huh? I should be able to tell people exactly what is proper and moral for them to be doing in the privacy of their own bedroom. Who cares if there is no evidence of it harming anyone. I feel it is damaging to the morals of society and that should be enough.

Every sexual deviancy has its group of moral and political supporters. Yet how can anyone know if someone has actually been assaulted sexually if people consider violent sex just another lifestyle choice? How do you distinguish rape from consensual sex after the fact?

Normaly by asking they parties involved if they consented to the act. If one of them says "NO" it was rape. If both of them are OK with it, it was consensual. Difficult I know, but there you go.

Wake up folks. People have been warning you for decades. Now it is here. Look at the USSR, at China, at North Korea. The times have not changed so much. Totalitarianism, violence, debauchery, and hideous tyranny are NOT the stuff of nightmares born of bygone eras where ignorance fueled hatred. These things are here today, and growing at an alarming rate in our own nation. They are, now as they were then, the straight forward result of abandoning or denying God.

And of course the common denominator in all three countries was the horrible sexual debauchery that precided their fall right?

There will come a day when the entire world will abandon God save a very few, as it says in the Bible.

But does that time have to be now? Is it our generation that will abandon God, or will we return, as many generations before us have done to their credit? It's not too late.

Time to take a stand. It's only going to get more dangerous the longer you wait.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Run chicken little! Run!


What I find amazing is that in every age there are the doom callers,telling us how the world is going to come to wrack and ruin. Apparently they are very effective because the world has not imploded yet.

 

[jpcedotal]

Could you elaborate on this?

Not on this thread, but on this site in general.

 

[Ectezus]

But does that time have to be now? Is it our generation that will abandon God

If you seriously consider it important to spend your energy on issues like the sexual orientation of another human being then yes, you're done.

Mark my words when I say this: you can not stop homosexuality from becoming equal.
They tried it with blacks, they tried it with women.

You
Will
Fail.

- Ectezus

 

[Polycarp1]

My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ did not suffer and die on the Cross in order that Joe Farah might bear false witness against people and groups he despises.

 

[Shane Roach]

You don't see gay protest groups going to churches on Sunday morning and protesting religion.

HomoSEX-U-al Terrorists "Bash Back!" | Gather

I dare any of you to question the source. The habit of simply defaming the reputation of any source that prints facts anathema to the gay agenda gets very tiresome.

 

[Shane Roach]

Could you elaborate on this?

No. It's forbidden, as you well know.