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The Ark Of The Covenant

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RVincent said:
Just curious, where did you here of a magic book of Solomon, and raising up demons to build the Temple?
In the book i was reading which is listed in my first post. I then surfed around the net a bit and found some very interesting things! :eek:
I take it like my chips......with a pinch of salt! ;)
 
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stumpsitting101 said:
If I'm not too badly mistaken, I personally think we forget that much of the items listed in the O.T. were Shadows and Patterns of the things which already existed around God's Throne. I see a parallel connecting Jesus and the Ark. The Ark was the only O.T. thing able to keep God's Word (The Tables of Stone), Jesus kept all words which came by way of the Father. The Ark held Daily Bread (Manna), Jesus is our daily bread spiritually and provides our daily bread physically. The Ark held restored life, (Aaron's Rod) Jesus gives resurrected eternal glorified life to those who have faith in Him.

I'm with Flyfishing, I look for my Ark in the person of the Lord Jesus. To the Christian, it should not make any difference wheither the Ark (the piece of furniture) is located or not. What can it give to the Christian, that he does not already possess in Christ Jesus?

Also with the movie out, "The Passion of Christ", we could include the parallel of the Life Blood being broken and spilled out upon the O.T. Ark and Jesus, before our Father God.

We serve the greatest Lord who can save to the upmost.
Where is the O.T. Ark? A good question.

Blessings
Ken
Excellent points there Ken :clap:
 
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Chilldogg77 said:
As far as the physical ark in the OT, it would be neat to find, but I don't think God dwells within it anymore, because there is a new covenant.
Apparently, the ark was stolen by one of the men who Solomon told to go to Ethiopia with his son (Who he had with the Queen Of Sheba).
The ark was happy to go ,and it is said that the angels travelled with the people and the ark and 'sailed' the people above the sand as if it was water, making their journey fast and comfortable. I guess we will never know the real truth and can assume God has it back in heaven and will restore it once he creates a new Israel. :scratch: I have no idea! lol
I think the one Moses made is with God, but i still reckon there are many acient copies which would be amazing to have a look at. :clap:
 
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From www.prophecyupdate.com - by permission

Where is the Ark of the Covenant? -by Thomas S. McCall, Th.D.

The Ark of the Covenant disappeared off of the pages of history by the time of the Babylonian Captivity.

Nothing in the Bible is said about the Ark in the Old Testament after the return from Babylon, but the Apocrypha states that the Ark could not be found when the Jewish people rebuilt the Temple at the time of Ezra and Zechariah.

The explanation in the Apocrypha was that Jeremiah hid the Ark in a cave in Mt. Nebo before the Babylonian invasion, and that its location would not be revealed until God was ready for it to be found.

No Ark in the Second Temple

Thus, the Holy of Holies in the Second Temple was an empty chamber, without the Ark of the Covenant.

When the Roman General Pompey conquered Jerusalem around 63 B.C., he demanded the privilege of entering the Holy of Holies. When he did, he came out saying that he could not understand what all the interest was about the sanctuary, when it was only an empty room.

The fact that the Ark of the Covenant was not used in the Second Temple has led to the speculation of where the Ark is, or if it still exists on the earth.

The Ark was so important in Israel from the time of Moses through the Judges and the First Temple era, that it seems remarkable that nothing is said of it in the Bible after the Babylonian Captivity, until the Letter to the Hebrews and the Book of Revelation in the New Testament.

In Hebrews it is described as it was in the original Tabernacle made by Moses; and in Revelation, the Ark is seen by John in heaven.

In neither case is the Ark mentioned as something that remains on the earth now.

Is the Ark Needed for the Tribulation Temple?

One question that arises is, can the Temple be rebuilt if it does not contain the Ark? The Scriptures indicate that the Temple will be rebuilt and standing during the Tribulation period, and that the Tribulation Temple will be desecrated by the Antichrist.

How can the worship of Yahweh be resumed as it was in ancient times if there is no Ark in the Holy of Holies?

We have already seen, though, that the absence of the Ark of the Covenant did not keep the Temple from being rebuilt at the conclusion of the Babylonian Captivity.

The Second Temple stood for over 500 years without containing an Ark, and it was fully recognized as a valid house of worship for the Lord. Christ Himself declared the Temple to be His Father's House.

So it would not be unthinkable to build the Tribulation Temple, even if the Ark is not discovered.

If the Ark does still exist, however, and it were somehow discovered, it would certainly give rise to a strong movement in Israel and around the world to rebuild the Temple to house the Ark properly.

Is the Ark Hidden in the Temple Mount?

There persists a legend that the Ark does exist on earth, but is hidden.

A book by Christian author Randall Price, entitled In Search of Temple Treasures, presents the various views on what has happened to the Ark.

Some of the traditions place the Ark outside of Israel, such as at Mt. Nebo, Egypt and even far-off Ethiopia. But all of these traditions have problems and seem unlikely, since there is a lack of any scriptural evidence for them.

A view that has predominated in rabbinic circles is that the Ark was hidden in a cave beneath the Temple Mount in the very heart of Israel.

The theory goes that the priests hid the Ark beneath the Temple Mount, perhaps as early as during the time of King Josiah, since the coming prophesied invasion by the Babylonians was only a matter of time.

By hiding the Ark and other Temple treasures, the priests felt that the priceless sacred articles could be protected from desecration by the pagan invaders.

Why Didn't Israel Use the Ark in the Second Temple?

As it turned out, the Babylonians did invade Jerusalem. They destroyed the Temple and carried away many of the vessels and implements to their capital city a thousand miles away.

No mention is made in the Scriptures of the Babylonians taking the Ark, the Menorah, or other key Temple items. If the Ark and the other implements were hidden under the Temple, why weren't they recovered and used after the Captivity?

It's hard to imagine that the priests would have knowingly left the Ark out of the Holy of Holies if they could have utilized it during the 500 years of the Second Temple.

The explanation offered is that they felt that as long as Jerusalem was subject to domination by the succeeding powers of Babylonia, Persia, Greece, and Rome, the Ark and other treasures could be desecrated and captured by the Gentile armies.

Thus, the sacred items would remain in seclusion until it was considered safe to bring them out to be placed in the Temple.

The Rabbinical Attempt to Find the Ark

At any rate, Rabbi Shlomo Goren and Rabbi Yehuda Getz, the rabbis in charge of the Western Wall area, are convinced that the Ark has been hidden in a cave in the Temple Mount directly under the site of the Holy of Holies, since the time of King Josiah. They probably represent the majority of Orthodox rabbis in their views.

They have a concept of vertical air space, by which the space of the Holy of Holies sanctifies the ground directly below it. Thus, the ancient priests would have been careful to locate the cave repository for the Ark in the sanctified area below the Holy of Holies.

The evidence for all of these suppositions about the location of the Ark, as Rabbi Getz concedes, comes more from the Talmud than the Scriptures. Nevertheless, there is a large and growing group of Orthodox Jewish adherents who believe that the Ark is in this cave below the Holy of Holies, and awaits the right time to be found.

Rabbi Getz believes that in 1982 he was very close, within 40 feet, to finding the cave in which the Ark resides. He was conducting a search in an old tunnel that had been filled with the debris of centuries, which runs perpendicular to the Western Wall and under the Temple Mount.

However, when the Moslems discovered that there were diggings being conducted under the Dome of the Rock, they threatened a general riot and the diggings were stopped.

The rabbi explains that, for the sake of maintaining peace with their Moslem neighbors, the Israelis had to reseal the entrance to the tunnel, and it remains blocked up to this day.

Temple Interest an Indication of the Imminent Rapture

The Scriptures are not clear as to whether the Ark of the Covenant still exists on the earth, but they are clear that the Temple will be rebuilt and standing during the Tribulation.

There is no question that if the Ark were found, it would give enormous impetus to the rebuilding of the Temple to house it. Bible-believing Christians should keep a sharp eye out for any developments surrounding the Temple Mount, realizing that it is a key element leading to the Tribulation era.

The closer we get to the Tribulation, the closer we are to the imminent Rapture of the Church, which, we believe the Scriptures teach, will precede the Tribulation.

Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus.
 
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ShetlandRose said:
But I would sure love to see it!

ShetlandRose :angel:

My understanding of the ark is that it is a terrible intense thing to behold. I would be frightened of such a thing.

Theories of the ark:

1)The ark could have been taken when the Temple of Solomon was destroyed and melted down.

2)Could have been taken by some Jewish leaders before the Temple fell because of the wrongs of the people and their king and hidden. Then forgotten.

3)Could have been moved to Ethiopia. There is one of the oldest sects of Judism and Christianity there that worship the arc. They believe it to be there.

Those are a few of them... but we really no longer need it. Christ came and lives on.
 
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I find it interesting, that prior to the renting of the Temple Veil on Cruxcifixion Day, that any Isrealite which touched or looked upon the Ark, died. However other nations which captured the Ark during this period, who did not adhere to handling proceedures, did not die. Some boils and such did occure and had their gods fell down before the Ark, are reported but no deaths outside of Isreal. (I could be mistaken, but I just don't recall any at this time). Then when the Temple Veil was torn, someone had to have seen the Ark, yet there was no report of any death to any which saw the Ark at this time. I think something just may have transpired during this event. One thing I do know, the (lively) Ark we have today, we are to look to and behold. Praise God!

Blessings
Ken
 
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