The Apprentice 6

[BarbaraJean]

I so agree with your views

1 - Even at one point when Trump asked her about her thoughts - she admited that she would vote or suggest to keep the weakest one in and get rid of the strongest - which in turn Trump said that thats not what the board was for. It is to get rid of the weakest, not the best to make the other team stronger. Well, what else does he think the winning side sitting on the Board will try to do??? UNLESS.... he wants to see how one would think in such a position...

2 - Most definately! There will be some good talent going to waste as potential team leaders that Trump will never really get to know.

3 - this one - I kinda get a chuckle watching these folks "roughing it" but I can also see how this isnt really related to what they are doing or will promote what they are doing. As you said - survivor, sure, it fits BUT when your job entails a professional dress code/atire and look (makeup, shaved, combed, etc) downtown or uptown, somewhere on concrete, not the boonies...then camping aint gonna do it any good or help give Trump a fair professional view of his candidates.

4 - Too early yet for my thoughts about her being gone and how it could affect the board. Need to watch Ivanka do a few boardroom sessions before I think she is just saying what her dad wants to hear or she has a mind of her own.

I felt firing Martin was a good idea but it wouldnt have bothered me at all if they fired Frank too - he was just too whiney.

We agree!

I don't really mind Ivanka. It's just that I think Carolyn was becoming very confident in her role and I loved watching her.

I wouldn't have minded if Frank had been fired if it wasn't for Martin running his mouth about how he could manipulate his team and Trump into firing Frank.

 

[Redguard]

HI,

New here to this sight but did watch Apprentice last night. I agree with all your comments and here's an additional thought: Why a car wash? Boring!! The show has a fancy new open but making the first task a carwash was just not very creative.

There are some very basic business principles that are involved in running a business... even one as small as a car wash.

You'll remember from the episode that things such as marketing, pricing, and staff allocation were items that ended up being the key factors involved in determining the winner.

I think it was either Apprentice 4 or 5 that had the contestants start off by selling lemonade on the street corners of NYC.

Anyway, the main bone that I have to pick with the Apprentice is the fact that they ALWAYS have so many attorneys/lawyers as contestants. Maybe it's just me, but I just don't see why the skillsets of attorneys are seen as being so desirable by the producers of the Apprentice.

All of Trumps winning projects involve construction... either of a golf course, or a condominium, or something like that. Why don't they have more engineers as contestants? Not ONCE have I seen an engineer on the show.

 

[BarbaraJean]

You make a great point, Redguard! I never really thought about it.

I also got the impression that there were going to be several of the Olympic athletes, rather than just one.

You know what I think saved Frank? I think that when he explained his reason for acting desperate as being his passion for the job and his intense desire to stay that he redeemed himself in Trump's eyes.

 

[BarbaraJean]

Well, another twist that I don't think I'm going to like- the winning team doesn't have to compete next task?

So they get to continue to stay in the mansion. I'm wondering how the next task will be done. Will the losing team be divided and the winning half of the team gets to move to the mansion?

I really don't know if I'll continue to watch. I still enjoyed the task but all the new twists aren't really good.

 

[Redguard]

Yeah, the twists are a bit too.... twisted.

Anyway, I'm surprised that nobody's discussed the episode yet.

I'm really happy to see Carey gone. That guy was just a bit too... uh.... how do I say it.... fabulous. Where on earth did he get the idea that guys would want to wear oversized Victoria Secret boyshorts? With pink floral patterns.

Congrats to that girl on the losing team who modeled in the bikini though. She was really brave and I applaud her for that. A lot of women are so insecure about their bodies and despite not having the typical modelesque figure, she seemed to do pretty well with her confidence. As for Surya.... yikes. That dude is thin and the treasure trail of hair was a bit too unbearable to look at.

It was a bit of a waste having Team Kinetic go to the Playboy Mansion, I think. There are only two guys on that team, and only one of them (Surya) is straight. So I don't think that reward was as enjoyed as it could've been by Team Arrow.

As for the winning team sitting out the next assignment... not sure how that works. My guess is that Team Arrow will be given a quota or a target that they have to achieve. If they meet it, then nobody gets fired. If they fail to meet it, then they'll go to the boardroom.

 

[BarbaraJean]

Yeah, the twists are a bit too.... twisted.

Perfectly said!

As for the winning team sitting out the next assignment... not sure how that works. My guess is that Team Arrow will be given a quota or a target that they have to achieve. If they meet it, then nobody gets fired. If they fail to meet it, then they'll go to the boardroom.

That does sound likely. And if they meet their quota they get to stay in the mansion. So.... the potential of nobody getting fired... interesting.

 

[Naamah]

I couldn't stop laughing at Carey in his specially designed bathing suit!

And didn't you love how much Trump talked about how good his (Trump's) body was? Well, it has to be better than his hair.

 

[Jenster]

Hi All! I didn't really intend to watch this season, but since it's available on the Web, I've been sucked in yet again. (BTW, have you noticed how many times people on the show say, "It sucks"? I'm getting a little tired of it...)

This is definitely a show pitting the haves against the have nots, but ... I'm not sure what the point of that is. In real life, there ARE the haves and have nots, but The Apprentice isn't exactly a show about social conscience, so I'm not sure what the object lesson is doing in there.

Does anyone think members of the winning team might throw a challenge, just for the chance to get to be project manager? The whole "winning project manager remains project manager" is an odd rule to live with, for sure.

 

[Redguard]

Does anyone think members of the winning team might throw a challenge, just for the chance to get to be project manager? The whole "winning project manager remains project manager" is an odd rule to live with, for sure.

If anyone does that, then it would CERTAINLY be an accurate reflection of the real business world. So often, you'll find that someone on your team will intentionally slack off, or do a poor job in order to make the person in charge look bad or get into trouble.

People are really scheming.

 

[llghoney]

Wooooo gosh what about last nights show? Can anyone believe she quit or think like trump aobut her quitting?

Not sure I like the new rule either especially how things went last night I mean the winning group should have gotten a nice dinner or something.

But gosh I agree with Trump on the living in a tent its not like they are stranded!

 

[BarbaraJean]

I just got to watch it tonight. I thought it was a great show. As soon as James spoke up with his idea you knew it would be good.

Either James, Aaron or Stephanie needs to be PM for the next project.

 

[Redguard]

I had the show taped on my digital box, but thanks to the football game going playing for so long, the last 15 minutes got cut.

I read up on the results last night and I'm so mad that I missed it.

 

[BarbaraJean]

I had the show taped on my digital box, but thanks to the football game going playing for so long, the last 15 minutes got cut.

I read up on the results last night and I'm so mad that I missed it.

Oh no! That stinks! It was really good. I thought Trump handled Michelle very well. I don't totally agree with him but I thought he spoke very clearly about the fact that she'll be disappointed in herself for quitting.

I really do think that it is wise to recognize that we are in a situation that just isn't working for us. I know that there are times as a pastor's wife that I find myself doing jobs that I am not gifted to do simply because they need to be done. But I'm learning that it is in the best interest of the entire congregation for Ben and I to find somebody who is gifted for that job to take it over. I don't see that as quitting or giving up. It's using wisdom.

I don't think that this is what Michelle was doing though. I think she knew she would be fired and that she was saving face and that she really hated the living situation and wanted no more of it (just in case she didn't get fired).

 

[Naamah]

BarbaraJean, you make an extremely good point about using wisdom in our pursuits and making sure we are following our calling and not someone else's.

I agree with you that Michelle's repetitive speeches were not about that. I think what it really amounted to was: 'You can't fire me because I quit!'

As far as the camping goes, from what I've seen, the facilities they have are superior to any camping experience I've ever had, not to mention the mild coastal weather! My last camping trip included 2 days of constant rain and a flooded tent with no cot.

 

[BarbaraJean]

I agree with you that Michelle's repetitive speeches were not about that. I think what it really amounted to was: 'You can't fire me because I quit!'

Exactly!

 

[Jenster]

Would any of you have done what Michelle did? I might have. I think she was woefully inadequate for the show -- she didn't feel comfortable in the tasks, no one liked her, she couldn't make decisions. And to top it off, she was living in a tent! I can see someone getting overwhelmed and thinking, "You know, I'm not good at this, I'm not enjoying myself and I'm about to get fired on national television. I want out!"

I agree with BarbaraJean that sometimes you just have to know what's worth your time (or what's working) and what's not.

I do not think that Michelle expected one of her teammates to get fired in addition to her quitting. Maybe that's giving her more credit than is due, but if I were her, I would have assumed that my quitting would fill the "quota" for the week. (And, as the phone call at the end of the show proved, it did.)

Oh! ONE MORE THING: I am so curious to know whether -- in real life -- the phone call from Trump's assistant came JUST AFTER Michelle left, or much later? The edited show made it look like the phone call came right after Michelle left AND that Michelle heard the team's whooping and hollering. She probably thought they were cheering because she had left!

 

[BarbaraJean]

Would any of you have done what Michelle did? I might have. I think she was woefully inadequate for the show -- she didn't feel comfortable in the tasks, no one liked her, she couldn't make decisions. And to top it off, she was living in a tent! I can see someone getting overwhelmed and thinking, "You know, I'm not good at this, I'm not enjoying myself and I'm about to get fired on national television. I want out!"

I agree with BarbaraJean that sometimes you just have to know what's worth your time (or what's working) and what's not.

I do not think that Michelle expected one of her teammates to get fired in addition to her quitting. Maybe that's giving her more credit than is due, but if I were her, I would have assumed that my quitting would fill the "quota" for the week. (And, as the phone call at the end of the show proved, it did.)

Oh! ONE MORE THING: I am so curious to know whether -- in real life -- the phone call from Trump's assistant came JUST AFTER Michelle left, or much later? The edited show made it look like the phone call came right after Michelle left AND that Michelle heard the team's whooping and hollering. She probably thought they were cheering because she had left!

Hmmm, all good thoughts -

1~ No, I really don't think that I could have told Trump I quit. I would have preferred to be fired. If I absolutely knew it was my fault and I deserved to be fired I may have told Trump so but I wouldn't have just quit.

2~ With tv you just don't get the full picture. It did appear that Michelle heard the cheering but really the other candidates were back at their residence. Michelle left from Trump's mansion. She probably was too far away to hear the cheering.

 

[Redguard]

Granted, I do think that a lot of them are feeling completely bummed about being out in tents.

If I ever applied to be on the Apprentice, the first thing on my mind would be the excitement of spending a few weeks in a Trump condo or mansion. This would've been my expectation.

That being said, it's probably twice as hard for some of them to swallow having to be outside in a tent and not having the lavish amenities that one would expect from being in the presence of Donald Trump.

It's still a bit early in the show, but we've now gotten a chance to see some of the work ethic and personalities of a few of the contestants.

James stands out. I'm impressed by his ability to come up with ideas that are geared towards grabbing peoples' attention. His idea to involve the Laker Girls was a bit demeaning, but it worked. But as others have seen, he can be a bit of a firecracker and he exudes a bit too much energy at times.

On the flip side, there are some people who I feel I know absolutely nothing about. Surya, for example, is a complete nobody to me so far.

 

[Jenster]

2~ With tv you just don't get the full picture. It did appear that Michelle heard the cheering but really the other candidates were back at their residence. Michelle left from Trump's mansion. She probably was too far away to hear the cheering.

Hm, BarbaraJean, I could be wrong, but I thought she left from the backyard. Wasn't there a scene where they were all sitting in a circle and huddled under a blanket? Someone said, "I don't want to get fired" and Michelle said, "Don't even think that!" Anyway, I guess there's no way of knowing where she was or what she heard while walking down the street with her luggage. (Which raises another question -- why didn't she at least get the limo? Is that only reserved for fired people?)

Redguard - you're right about Surya. In fact, I don't feel like I know the "winning" team very much at all.

 

[BarbaraJean]

I don't know. You just never know for sure with tv, do you? My husband noticed the missing limo too.

I agree - we aren't getting to know much at all about the candidates on the winning team.