"The Apostle Paul"

[The Thadman]

This show is currently running on IsraelNet TV. It's WONDERFUL!

http://www.israelnet.tv/program.html

It's on the right sidebar.

Enjoy!
-Steve-o

 

[Henaynei]

"Torah is Messiah; Messiah is Torah...... all else is commentary....."

 

[sojeru]

hmmm
I say
"obey Torah...not only observe Torah...all else is commentary"

 

[brentsbaby612]

To me, the talmud is what's called commentary, not actual books from the bible. It makes much more sense to observe Paul's teaching than to observe the talmud. But whatever, that's just what I believe.

Thanks for the link. Sounds interesting so I'll check it out.

 

[Henaynei]

Just for a clarification of definations as these two are often confused....

Torah = Pentatuch - the first 5 books of the Bible

Talmud = Mishna + Gemara - a compilation of legal decisions and commentary based on the Instructions of HaShem in the Torah

The first 3 posts were speaking specifically about Torah

To me, the talmud is what's called commentary, not actual books from the bible. It makes much more sense to observe Paul's teaching than to observe the talmud. But whatever, that's just what I believe.

Thanks for the link. Sounds interesting so I'll check it out.

 

[brentsbaby612]

Just for a clarification of definations as these two are often confused....

Torah = Pentatuch - the first 5 books of the Bible

Talmud = Mishna + Gemara - a compilation of legal decisions and commentary based on the Instructions of HaShem in the Torah

The first 3 posts were speaking specifically about Torah

Quote:
Originally Posted by: brentsbaby612




To me, the talmud is what's called commentary, not actual books from the bible. It makes much more sense to observe Paul's teaching than to observe the talmud. But whatever, that's just what I believe.

Thanks for the link. Sounds interesting so I'll check it out.

Nope, no confusion. You were just saying that paul's letters where commentary. I was pointing out that commentary would be something more like the talmud, not actual books of the bible in my opinion.

 

[Henaynei]

LOL - in the web video on Paul - Paul said "Torah is Messiah and Messiah is Torah.....all else is commentary"

So I guess we all agree

 

[muffler dragon]

Just for a clarification of definations as these two are often confused....

Torah = Pentatuch - the first 5 books of the Bible

Talmud = Mishna + Gemara - a compilation of legal decisions and commentary based on the Instructions of HaShem in the Torah

The first 3 posts were speaking specifically about Torah

What exactly are the Mishna and Gemara?

I've heard those terms before, but have no idea what they actually mean.

 

[Henaynei]

Mishna is the Oral Tradition - the Halakah or legal case determinations made by the rabbis on numerous issues of Torah obedience accumulated over the centuries and transmitted orally from generation of teachers to generation - it was finally codified/written down by Judah HaNissi a few hundered years after the Roman Dispersion - for fear that the knowledge would be lost as the Jewish people were spread far and wide and aging rabbis often had no one to whom to teach the oral traditions.

The Gemara is a compliation of commentaries on on the Mishna.

Together these are called Talmud

See below - a page of Talmud.....
In the center is the Mishna on a particular topic - around it are several layers of commentary or Gemara - these layers are actually "discussions" rabbis living centuries apart would have concerning this portion of the Mishna -- the entire Talmud is thus......

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[brentsbaby612]

LOL - in the web video on Paul - Paul said "Torah is Messiah and Messiah is Torah.....all else is commentary"

So I guess we all agree

LOL-yeah, when I first posted I hadn't yet seen the video. I guess that's what I get for posting to soon!