Amen !Romans 11:32, this is the most ridiculous one of all.
Begin reading in 11:25 to see the context that leads up vs 32.
The context of the chapter is Israel in contrast to the Gentiles.
God has concluded them all (Israel and the Gentiles) in unbelief.
You see Steven, Paul is explaining here in vs. 30 that the Gentile nations have rreceived mercy from God through the unbelief of Israel. They have all been concluded in unbelief but now salvation has come to us the Gentiles through the rejection of Christ by Israel.
"mercy upon all" is referring to the world in respect to contrast between Israel and the Gentile nations.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with universal restoration.
>>>ShrewdMgr>That's what I'm talking about Charlie. When God Himself swears an OATH BY HIMSELF, we should pay close attention. Because it doesn't get any more real than that.
As someone else has already pointed out UR-ites have a penchant for quoting disparate scriptures out-of-context.>>>ShrewdMgr>That's what I'm talking about Charlie. When God Himself swears an OATH BY HIMSELF, we should pay close attention. Because it doesn't get any more real than that.
And God sware by Himself to Abraham, that ALL Nations of the world would be blessed through him, and God sware by Himself to Cyrus that ALL the ends of the earth would turn to Him and be saved, EVERY knee bowing and tongue confessing to the glory of God.
Now why would you not give those glorious holy beautiful perfect absolute sovereign and mighty promises their full value? C'mon Charlie cast the money changers from the temple. Why won't you take God at His word on these matters? He SWORE AN OATH both times. Don't you believe?,<<<ShrewdMgr<
That's what I'm talking about Charlie. When God Himself swears an OATH BY HIMSELF, we should pay close attention. Because it doesn't get any more real than that.
And God sware by Himself to Abraham, that ALL Nations of the world would be blessed through him, and God sware by Himself to Cyrus that ALL the ends of the earth would turn to Him and be saved, EVERY knee bowing and tongue confessing to the glory of God.
Now why would you not give those glorious holy beautiful perfect absolute sovereign and mighty promises their full value? C'mon Charlie cast the money changers from the temple. Why won't you take God at His word on these matters? He SWORE AN OATH both times. Don't you believe?
So you believe every single human from adam until the last person born in the future will be saved ?Yeah, I'd feel like a complete loser who should do everyone a favour and commit suicide if I ever gave away the perfection of God's great and perfect promises to save ALL MANKIND.
God also swore an oath that "they shall not enter into my rest." Heb. 3:11, referring to the Hebrews in the wilderness who rebelled against God for 40 years.
What do you suppose that means?
So you believe every single human from adam until the last person born in the future will be saved ?
Every mass murderer, child molester, rapist, genocide etc ????
so in the end everyone is saved ........................ YIKESSalvation isn't a reward for being good. The righteous don't need a doctor. It's an act of divine grace for the needy, the lost, the brokenhearted, the demonised...it's for God's glory. And who needs salvation more than the chief of sinners? So stop confusing salvation with inheritance.
Unfortunately empty platitudes do not address the scripture I posted.Yeah, I'd feel like a complete loser who should do everyone a favour and commit suicide if I ever gave away the perfection of God's great and perfect promises to save ALL MANKIND.
so in the end everyone is saved ........................ YIKES
Please show us that scripture which says God will relent and save all the people who rejected him in this life?It means they won't enter into His rest until He relents, when He's good and ready. Because He is a gracious God of love, who relents from full punishment and shows mercy. Praise His holy name.
Jesus says that FEW are on the narrow road that leads to life and MANY are on the broad road that leads to destruction.And who gets saved in your book? Just you and your big fish? Are the reprobates just nuts too tough for Jesus to crack? Or does he give them what they deserve - their miserable grubby filthy lives earn them eternal hell. Yeahhh satan.
Unfortunately empty platitudes do not address the scripture I posted.
Jesus says that FEW are on the narrow road that leads to life and MANY are on the broad road that leads to destruction.
So I believe Jesus teaching , not your opinion.
hope this helps !!!
Please show us that scripture which says God will relent and save all the people who rejected him in this life?
Please show us that scripture which says God will relent and save all the people who rejected him in this life?
Its a real sad commentary how the enemy plants his false doctrines in churches and hook, line and sinker they believe it.They get these verses from the handy Ur-ite manual.
Where is a single person who rejects Christ in the bible who has eternal life ?Scripture amply shows God saving those who reject Him. That's what the Bible is all about. Geez mate, are you ok there?
Please show me one verse, 2 or more would be better, where God, Himself, or Jesus, Himself says that the dead in the grave/hell will repent and be saved?Scripture amply shows God saving those who reject Him. That's what the Bible is all about. Geez mate, are you ok there?
Obviously you have some misunderstandings about Universalism. But that's to be expected.which agrees with my POV and lines up with scripture not universalism.
Thanks !
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