That's a specific rubric

[rambot]

The Trump/Greenwood bibles are imported from China - look it up. The latest Russia Russia Russia scandal is that Donald sent American made covid tests to his dear friend Putin at the same time he was publicly discouraging testing here, while there was a shortage of test supplies and the two kept in close touch after Donald was voted out of office.

I find the gaslighting around Russia to be a unique feature of many Republicans on christian forum.

 

[Always in His Presence]

2 Questions:

1) How stupid do you think that Governor is?

Not stupid enough to believe yet another conspiracy theory.

[Truth be told, taking the facts at face value is the act of giving the Governor the credibility that he did his job right. You are claiming utter incompetence is the excuse.]

Thank you for your opinion - it differs from mine - and I NEVER said anything about competence or incompetence, please do not put words in my mouth. In this case you have added one and one and got watermelon as an answer.

2) Do you HONESTLY think not one person in his organization NEVER looked to see how many probable publications they may be able to choose from or who could likely tender offers?

Do you honestly think they took the time and found a specific Bible and then made their specs just for that one? Re-read what they said - slow down and just read it verbatim - the Greenwood Bible was "ONE OF THE FEW"
that met the criteria. What does one of the few mean? It means it was not exclusive - there were others. That alone defeats this defense of this conspiracy theory.

That means they looked into how many probable publications they may be able to choose from or could likely tender offers.

And they found a few - greater than one - more than two. This really is not hard to understand

Meant to be not rhetorical.

Mine either.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I find the gaslighting around Russia to be a unique feature of many Republicans on christian forum.

I can emphasis with you - it's embarrassing for a political party to make such a bad multi year accusation against a sitting President on any forum - Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic, Secular, Muslim whatever - I understand wanting to make it go away by any possible means.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I understand wanting to make it go away by any possible means.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump pardoned his former national security adviser Michael Flynn on Wednesday, ending a yearslong prosecution in the Russia investigation that saw Flynn twice plead guilty to lying to the FBI

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump granted a full pardon on Tuesday to George Papadopoulos, a former campaign aide who pleaded guilty as part of the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

A solicitor struck off for making false statements to the Mueller inquiry into alleged Russian involvement in the election of US president Donald Trump has received a presidential pardon.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I can emphasis with you - it's embarrassing for a political party to make such a bad multi year accusation against a sitting President on any forum - Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic, Secular, Muslim whatever - I understand wanting to make it go away by any possible means.

We would definitely like it if the gaslighting about Russia stopped on this site. (Emphasis mine.)

 

[rambot]

I can emphasis with you - it's embarrassing for a political party to make such a bad multi year accusation against a sitting President on any forum - Christian, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic, Secular, Muslim whatever - I understand wanting to make it go away by any possible means.

Your rubric for such a cutting and incisive accusation as "bad", is not the same as impartial party.

No. It's actually the insistence on minimizing everything 45 ever does; As though there is have some kind of Babelfish that translates what he really means "and liberals are too spiteful and hate filled to understand".

Like the wife explaining to the kids what the whipping the dad is giving ACTUALLY means.


We speak English. IT's pretty clear what he's saying. And what is passed off as joking is abusive language by a lowly troubled man.

 

[rambot]

Not stupid enough to believe yet another conspiracy theory.

Well he's pretty crap at his job

Thank you for your opinion - it differs from mine - and I NEVER said anything about competence or incompetence, please do not put words in my mouth. In this case you have added one and one and got watermelon as an answer.

NEver said you did. You gave a hypothetical reason why he did it. Okay. Well ,if you think that's what happenned, the implication and ONLY thing that could be inferred by that is that he's bad at his job. Not that he's good at his job but didn't do preliminary work for procurement.

Do you honestly think they took the time and found a specific Bible and then made their specs just for that one? Re-read what they said - slow down and just read it verbatim - the Greenwood Bible was "ONE OF THE FEW"
that met the criteria. What does one of the few mean? It means it was not exclusive - there were others. That alone defeats this defense of this conspiracy theory.

I understand there were 2. Only 2.
And they both funnelled money to Trump.
'Trump Bible' one of few that meet Walters' criteria for Oklahoma classrooms

A salesperson at Mardel Christian & Education searched, and though they carry 2,900 Bibles, none fit the parameters.

But one Bible fits perfectly: Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, endorsed by former President Donald Trump and commonly referred to as the Trump Bible. They cost $60 each online, with Trump receiving fees for his endorsement.

Mardel doesn’t carry the God Bless the U.S.A. Bible or another Bible that could meet the specifications, the We The People Bible, which was also endorsed by Donald Trump Jr. It sells for $90.

a 90$ Bible. Perverse.

“The RFP on its face seems fair, but with additional scrutiny, we can see there are very few Bibles on the market that would meet these criteria, and all of them have been endorsed by former President Donald Trump,” Oklahoma Appleseed Center for Law and Justice Executive Director Colleen McCarty said.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Well he's pretty crap at his job



NEver said you did. You gave a hypothetical reason why he did it. Okay. Well ,if you think that's what happenned, the implication and ONLY thing that could be inferred by that is that he's bad at his job. Not that he's good at his job but didn't do preliminary work for procurement.


I understand there were 2. Only 2.
And they both funnelled money to Trump.
'Trump Bible' one of few that meet Walters' criteria for Oklahoma classrooms



a 90$ Bible. Perverse.

They have since removed the requirements, Yet here the left is still complaining about something that is not happening.

The unsubstantiated complaint has not only fallen apart - but is not even being considered. Yet, let's beat this dead horse some more.

 

[Always in His Presence]

We would definitely like it if the gaslighting about Russia stopped on this site. (Emphasis mine.)

I'll make a deal - the moment the gaslighting every possible thing Trump they can come up with ends - I'll end mine - deal?

Emphasis mine

 

[rambot]

I'll make a deal - the moment the gaslighting every possible thing Trump they can come up with ends - I'll end mine - deal?

Emphasis mine

This is what I mean. This is the babelfish. Liberals don't understand Trump; you guys hate him.
He's just not a good person and not a trustworthy person.

 

[Hans Blaster]

They have since removed the requirements, Yet here the left is still complaining about something that is not happening.

The unsubstantiated complaint has not only fallen apart - but is not even being considered. Yet, let's beat this dead horse some more.

They slightly modified them (putting the non-bible stuff not in a bible, but still bound).

 

[Hans Blaster]

I'll make a deal - the moment the gaslighting every possible thing Trump they can come up with ends -

First I'm not gaslighting anyone. Certainly not here. This thread is about the actions of someone who is not Trump. He is the superindendent of public instruction in Oklahoma. The bid he put out for (unneeded) bibles for public school classrooms is quite specific and contains many things that are not found in normal bibles, but every last one of them is in the Trump/Greenwood bible. The description in the bid is a perfect match for that bible and when combined with the requirement for quick delivery, makes it really, really, really seem like the XNat state official wants to buy Trump bibles.

What is his motivation? We don't know. Is he trying to curry favor with Trump? Possibly. Is he trying to impose on schoolchildren his politics at the same time he is imposing his religion? That could be it. Is he unaware of other bible providers? I suppose it could be. Does he just think now that the bible should contain the US constitution jammed between Maccabees and Matthew. We just don't know. Speculation is fun, but no one is claiming to know the motivation. The intent is relatively clear.

I'll end mine - deal?

So you are gaslighting, then?

Emphasis mine

As long as your spelling is accurate.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

When I saw it was about "the Trump Bible", I couldn't help but think of this SNL sketch.

"In this, what a lot of people are saying is an even better version, of the Bible, we did have to make some cuts, there will be no more Amos or Habakkuk, but I think what we have now is tight, it really cooks"

 

[DaisyDay]

They slightly modified them (putting the non-bible stuff not in a bible, but still bound).

And a two week delivery stipulation. Can 55,000 bibles be printed to spec, no notes or commentary allowed, bound in fake leather and shipped two weeks upon acceptance? Luckily, two suppliers just happen to have bibles fitting the requirements right in their warehouses!! Lucky lucky coinkydinky!!

And meanwhile, none of the emergency inhalers budgeted and funded a year ago have been bought or distributed. Priorities!!

 

[Pommer]

What is his motivation? We don't know. Is he trying to curry favor with Trump? Possibly. Is he trying to impose on schoolchildren his politics at the same time he is imposing his religion? That could be it. Is he unaware of other bible providers?

Should Grover win, he’ll need someone to shutter the Dept. Of Education.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Oklahoma Introduces Trump Bibles Into Classrooms Across the State​

Oklahoma has begun distributing hundreds of Bibles to classrooms statewide, appearing to be the same version endorsed earlier this year by former President Donald Trump: the “God Bless the USA Bible.”

"Today we purchased over 500 Bibles that will be put in AP government classrooms across the state.”

He went on to hold up a copy of the Bible, which resembles the version promoted by Trump in March. This special edition, priced at $59.99, includes not only the Bible but also key U.S. historical documents: the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance.

This recent purchase of over 500 Bibles follows an earlier, larger request from the Oklahoma Department of Education for 55,000 Bibles. Walters confirmed the 500 Bibles were part of a separate purchase aimed specifically at AP government classes.

 

[rambot]

Oklahoma Introduces Trump Bibles Into Classrooms Across the State​

Oklahoma has begun distributing hundreds of Bibles to classrooms statewide, appearing to be the same version endorsed earlier this year by former President Donald Trump: the “God Bless the USA Bible.”

"Today we purchased over 500 Bibles that will be put in AP government classrooms across the state.”

He went on to hold up a copy of the Bible, which resembles the version promoted by Trump in March. This special edition, priced at $59.99, includes not only the Bible but also key U.S. historical documents: the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance.

This recent purchase of over 500 Bibles follows an earlier, larger request from the Oklahoma Department of Education for 55,000 Bibles. Walters confirmed the 500 Bibles were part of a separate purchase aimed specifically at AP government classes.

Good point. Only the advanced kids need to remember "the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance."

 

[RileyG]

Oklahoma Introduces Trump Bibles Into Classrooms Across the State​

Oklahoma has begun distributing hundreds of Bibles to classrooms statewide, appearing to be the same version endorsed earlier this year by former President Donald Trump: the “God Bless the USA Bible.”

"Today we purchased over 500 Bibles that will be put in AP government classrooms across the state.”

He went on to hold up a copy of the Bible, which resembles the version promoted by Trump in March. This special edition, priced at $59.99, includes not only the Bible but also key U.S. historical documents: the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance.

This recent purchase of over 500 Bibles follows an earlier, larger request from the Oklahoma Department of Education for 55,000 Bibles. Walters confirmed the 500 Bibles were part of a separate purchase aimed specifically at AP government classes.

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Ick. That’s inappropriate.

 

[durangodawood]

Binding govt docs into the Bible.

Ive felt for quite a while that the function of religion in much of American culture is to support political ideology. I expected "conservatives" to be more cagey about letting lose such blatant evidence tho. They must be feeling bold of late.

 

[RileyG]

Binding govt docs into the Bible.

Ive felt for quite a while that the function of religion in much of American culture is to support political ideology. I expected "conservatives" to be more cagey about letting lose such blatant evidence tho. They must be feel bold of late.

To me, this Trump Bible is heretical, if not borderline blasphemous. It doesn’t feel right at all.

I’m saying that as a Christian.

I wonder what others think?