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Nope, I mean the mythology around the founding fathers, the constitution, the early presidents;
You don't just have Muhammed believing that he was the prophet... and so on.You don't have just Jesus believing He is from God - part of God the Father- (the legal reason He was crucified), you have the witnesses and collaborative opinion of 12 people from a wide variety of backgrounds and different ages who all came to the same conclusion and refused to recant their support of the idea knowing that they would loose their lives for these hieratic ideas.
Muslims, must believe that the Koran is God's Holy word. Or face death.
Christianity is accepted on a voluntary basis, so the evidence/testimony of the 12 disciples is different in that way.
Think about the other times you've compared things and consider the benefits you've gotten, then project those potential benefits to this situation.
Did you listen all the way through to the final total of NUMBERED killings supposedly carried out either directly by your God or by his orders?...
The evidence of the founding fathers backgrounds is the documentation they left behind.
Any myths can be confirmed or denied because people were able to write at this stage of mankind's development.
Letters from the Early Presidents
Unless, of course, the "disciples" were forced, upon punishment of death, to write that they accepted voluntarily.
If we insist that a long life, without pain, and in a caring environment, is God's goal for humanity,
You've still not addressed Lighthorseman's original rebuttal to your claim of Christianity as truth.
Moslems also believe that their religion provides benefits
So what?
It's irrelevant but I'll indulge you. Thoughts are as information flowing in a cable or stored in a hard drive. Are you saying that simply because this information is 'merely' electrical impulses that it can't be information? Or that a photograph in your hard drive can't be a photograph because it's made of electrical impulses?
Now, I get that you're trying to separate thoughts from other things in existence and give them a special (as in special pleading) place in the hierarchy of things, but the cold truth is that thoughts are simple electrochemical impulses.
It's not God's goal. God's goal is to send the vast majority of us to an eternity in hell. And if it's not his goal, it's certainly not something he seems to bothered by, or he'd at least do something about it.
It would be worthwhile to look for support for that idea.
Again, so what?
There have been instances when Christian belief (particular forms of Chrisitan belief) has forcibly been imposed on others.
Does that suddenly make that form of Christianity less true?
Which pretty much just shows that some of them may have been, as most people were at the time, Christians. Doesn't say anything about them wanting the country they were creating to be Christian. I mean, I'm an atheist, and my writings just in this forum alone make that very clear. But if I started a club of some sort, that does not make the club an atheist club, or a club founded on atheist principles, or a non-god club. It just makes it a club founded by an atheist. As America may (still debatable, though) have been founded by Christians, but that doesn't make it a Christian country. Heck, you might as well say that it's a White country because all the founding fathers were white. Or it's a male country because they were all male. Or it's an older-person country because they were all older dudes. Or it's an I've-never-seen-Titanic country because all of the founding fathers had/have not seen that movie.
It's a choice people voluntarily make. Why should people be sent to a place they don't believe in or want to be?
Wouldn't that be a nightmare existence, to be somewhere you don't accept?
It's a choice people voluntarily make. Why should people be sent to a place they don't believe in or want to be?
Yes, which again, applies to both heaven and hell. So the argument you are attempting to make here really isn't helping you. Especially when, just like those disciples of yours, I am sticking to my beliefs and denying to deny them, even in the face of severe punishment.Wouldn't that be a nightmare existence, to be somewhere you don't accept?
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