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[DeerGlow]

Using only that verse's words to say t's all God-breathed is circular reasoning, saying that "I know the whole Bible is God-breathed because the Bible says it is." The entire New Testament wasn't even put together then, and it wasn't for several centuries after the events (nearly 400 AD if I recall), and there were several other books going around that might have been considered for the New Testament and God-breathed as well. If all Scripture was God-breathed, even after that statement was made, why did it take human councils, over three centuries after the events to determine what could go in the Bible? Wouldn't they have all had an equal revelation that led to the right consensus at the same time and solve that matter quickly, after maybe one meeting, rather than several centuries?

I don't know about that council, ans I can't explain it, but I trust that the Holy Spirit let what needed to happen happen. And they certainly didn't add in that verse about it being Spirit-breathed so we can trust the bible.

 

[CrystalDragon]

I don't know about that council, ans I can't explain it, but I trust that the Holy Spirit let what needed to happen happen. And they certainly didn't add in that verse about it being Spirit-breathed so we can trust the bible.

I'm not saying they added in the verse (though there is evidence some verses were added), I'm saying that that verse wasn't included when the entire Bible was put together, so some God-breathed ones might have slipped by and other ones that weren't God breathed may have been included.

How do you know for certain we can trust the Bible with absolutely everything, given it was written over an extended period of time? Quite a few of the stuff in the Old Testament at least seems more like it was written by a patriarchal society and less by God who knows everything.

If you're uneasy about questioning things because you're afraid, I 100% know how that is, I have been too. But here's the thing—truth doesn't fear questions. If you want to know more about things, look into history. If people try to dissuade you or scare you into not questioning, that's a cause for suspicion—if someone's so insistent on truth, why would they not want you to analyze what the truth is? You can't just go by what people tell you.

 

[DeerGlow]

I'm not saying they added in the verse (though there is evidence some verses were added), I'm saying that that verse wasn't included when the entire Bible was put together, so some God-breathed ones might have slipped by and other ones that weren't God breathed may have been included.

How do you know for certain we can trust the Bible with absolutely everything, given it was written over an extended period of time? Quite a few of the stuff in the Old Testament at least seems more like it was written by a patriarchal society and less by God who knows everything.

If you're uneasy about questioning things because you're afraid, I 100% know how that is, I have been too. But here's the thing—truth doesn't fear questions. If you want to know more about things, look into history. If people try to dissuade you or scare you into not questioning, that's a cause for suspicion—if someone's so insistent on truth, why would they not want you to analyze what the truth is? You can't just go by what people tell you.

I don't just go by what people say, it makes sense to me that God kept the bible as He wants it.


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[CrystalDragon]

I don't just go by what people say, it makes sense to me that God kept the bible as He wants it.


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It has me wonder then why God would include into parts in the Bible that make his followers appear violent and practically evil, such as the genocide and slavery. Again, those parts seem more like the words of a patriarchal society.

 

[DeerGlow]

It has me wonder then why God would include into parts in the Bible that make his followers appear violent and practically evil, such as the genocide and slavery. Again, those parts seem more like the words of a patriarchal society.

Maybe that's what people call it, but you and I know that God is holy, would not make His followers do something He hates, so the apparent evil must only appear to exist, and really just be misunderstanding.

 

[CrystalDragon]

Maybe that's what people call it, but you and I know that God is holy, would not make His followers do something He hates, so the apparent evil must only appear to exist, and really just be misunderstanding.

I don't see how slaughtering men, women, and children, while keeping virgins alive for themselves, is in any way anything other than despicable and evil. There's no "misunderstanding" there, unless they misunderstood what God wanted them to do.

 

[DeerGlow]

I don't see how slaughtering men, women, and children, while keeping virgins alive for themselves, is in any way anything other than despicable and evil. There's no "misunderstanding" there, unless they misunderstood what God wanted them to do.

I'm not going to pretend I have all the answers, sorry. I just know that God is holy, and I trust the scriptures as an accurate account of the past.


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[CrystalDragon]

I'm not going to pretend I have all the answers, sorry. I just know that God is holy, and I trust the scriptures as an accurate account of the past.


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How can we be sure that the scriptures are a 100% accurate account of the past? I understand you don't have all the answers, I don't claim to either. I just am curious as to how you're certain.

 

[DeerGlow]

How can we be sure that the scriptures are a 100% accurate account of the past? I understand you don't have all the answers, I don't claim to either. I just am curious as to how you're certain.

Because I believe they are Spirit-breathed, as I said earlier. And I think God certainly has the power to keep the bible as He wants it to be. If He wants it a certain way, all of humanity couldn't change it.


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[CrystalDragon]

Because I believe they are Spirit-breathed, as I said earlier. And I think God certainly has the power to keep the bible as He wants it to be. If He wants it a certain way, all of humanity couldn't change it.


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Another thing I forgot to mention regarding that: the Bible wasn't originally written in English, and some things were no doubt lost in translation.

 

[Paul Yohannan]

Does that mean I could have committed that sin?

No. In fact I am certain you have not committed that sin, because a characteristic of that sin wouod be a complete lack of contrition or humility or concern for one's salvation.

 

[Dan61861]

This sin isn't what you think it is. This sin is brought into the open while Christ is healing. Jesus isn't healing by His own power, but by the power of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is testifying to the world that Jesus is indeed the Christ.

The Holy Spirit testifies to each one of us. When we deny His testimony that Jesus is the Christ, we blasphem the Holy Spirit of God.

Now, there is only one sin that is unforgiving. Christ has testified to this. Yet, if we deny Jesus we are not forgiven. The two are the same, it is all about Christ. The Holy Spirit has come to witness and glorify Jesus.

To deny Christ is to blasphem the Holy Spirit.

In Christ
Daniel

 

[BubbaJack]

oops, wrong forum

 

[writewords]

When Jesus said this He was talking to unbelievers about their rejection of Christ. It [unbelief] was so stubborn, repetitive and constant that it became permanent. That led to inability to be saved. See Romans 1, "handed over to their sin." If you are a believer, it really does not apply to you.