Terror

[Adam113]

Great! I think that will change your perspective and give you a sense of peace.

I hope so

 

[aiki]

Hi everyone,
Ive been in complete terror for months. Ive been having revelations. I was born again and instead of going for discipleship i put my money and house, adultery and drugs ahead of God and went home thinking... i got this.
I put money and pride ahead of God and i now believe i rejected the last attempt of the HS. I believe I was put under a dillusion believing i could go on sinning. I was calling good evil and evil good. This ultimately led me to say speaking in tongues was of the devil.
All i can think of is im going to hell. I cant believe i threw away a great salvation. and for those wondering... this is the mark of the beast. Is there any hope in hell for me? Im terrorized and holding on by a thread. My mom even heard my grandpa crying in heaven. Im scared and want Jesus. I even had to go to the psych ward. Help me Jesus i know the end is near.

Not to make light of your fear, but you haven't committed the "unpardonable sin." The only sin that is truly unpardonable is the one you haven't confessed to God.

I think sometimes speaking in tongues is a demonic counterfeit of the real thing. Saying so doesn't make me guilty of blasphemy, however, only of being a discerning child of God.

Is there any hope in hell for you? No, none at all. But there is help for you in Christ.

Fear has no place in walking with God. Instead, you need to ask God for a love for Him. And keep asking until you get it. You will have to let go of your fear, though - fear of hell, fear of God, fear of blasphemy, fear of...whatever. So long as fear motivates you toward God, you have not been made perfect in His love.

You know, the devil likes to "stir the pot" of our minds, provoking us in whatever direction away from God we reveal by our behaviour that we are inclined to follow. He sees you are easily provoked by fear of punishment and so he pokes and prods you in that area of your thinking, winding you up into a right frenzy of terror. He's toying with you. And you're letting him. What can you do?

James 4:7
7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

Not to make light of your fear, but you haven't committed the "unpardonable sin." The only sin that is truly unpardonable is the one you haven't confessed to God.

I think sometimes speaking in tongues is a demonic counterfeit of the real thing. Saying so doesn't make me guilty of blasphemy, however, only of being a discerning child of God.

Is there any hope in hell for you? No, none at all. But there is help for you in Christ.

Fear has no place in walking with God. Instead, you need to ask God for a love for Him. And keep asking until you get it. You will have to let go of your fear, though - fear of hell, fear of God, fear of blasphemy, fear of...whatever. So long as fear motivates you toward God, you have not been made perfect in His love.

You know, the devil likes to "stir the pot" of our minds, provoking us in whatever direction away from God we reveal by our behaviour that we are inclined to follow. He sees you are easily provoked by fear of punishment and so he pokes and prods you in that area of your thinking, winding you up into a right frenzy of terror. He's toying with you. And you're letting him. What can you do?

James 4:7
7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

Selah.

I understand that, however I do believe God gave me over to a reprobate mind.

 

[aiki]

No, a reprobate mind does not worry about the things that are worrying you. It is when you are wicked and cannot tell that you are that you are truly reprobate.

Take a deep breath, calm yourself, and trust that the love of God for you is greater than the things you fear.

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

No, a reprobate mind does not worry about the things that are worrying you. It is when you are wicked and cannot tell that you are that you are truly reprobate.

Take a deep breath, calm yourself, and trust that the love of God for you is greater than the things you fear.

Selah.

For a while there i was wicked and judging others. I thought i was ok. Felt prideful and had cash..i put it before God. I didnt retain the truth of God. 4 months ago I realized what I did and have been terrified ever since

 

[aiki]

The Bible says, "there is none righteous, no, not one." We all have sinned and we all are dealing with sin (1Jn. 1:8-10). But God does not abandon us because this is so. Instead, He bends His power to transforming us and making us "new creatures in Christ." But this transformation is a process; it doesn't happen overnight. Some of us are pretty messy and have deeply-set habits of sin. But God "remembers that we are dust" and works patiently and graciously with us as a loving father does his little children.

You have your eyes fixed entirely too much on you and your failures. And as long as you are staring at your weakness, and fears, they will simply grow in your mind. God tells us to fix our eyes upon Jesus. Let him occupy your thoughts; make him your prime interest. And as you do, you will become conformed to him rather than to the sin with which you are presently so preoccupied.

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

The Bible says, "there is none righteous, no, not one." We all have sinned and we all are dealing with sin (1Jn. 1:8-10). But God does not abandon us because this is so. Instead, He bends His power to transforming us and making us "new creatures in Christ." But this transformation is a process; it doesn't happen overnight. Some of us are pretty messy and have deeply-set habits of sin. But God "remembers that we are dust" and works patiently and graciously with us as a loving father does his little children.

You have your eyes fixed entirely too much on you and your failures. And as long as you are staring at your weakness, and fears, they will simply grow in your mind. God tells us to fix our eyes upon Jesus. Let him occupy your thoughts; make him your prime interest. And as you do, you will become conformed to him rather than to the sin with which you are presently so preoccupied.

Selah.

Ill try its just scary thinking that God could have rejected me and I would burn forever. I want to love God and others. I cant be re-born again so where do I start off?

 

[lyndsey89]

I have OCD. One of my major fears is the so called 'unforgivable sin'. It's scary. It hurts. I have more reason than most to believe I have committed it but I draw enormous comfort from this:

John 6:37
"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out."

These are Jesus' own words. There are no exceptions listed here. He will not reject us because he says he won't.
Therefore I tell myself that the unforgivable sin can't be anything we repent for because to do so involves coming to Jesus and asking for forgiveness. The Pharisee's did not do this. Perhaps it was their unwillingness to repent that makes them unforgiven (and by the way there is a huge difference between being unforgivable and unforgiven). Think on this and draw peace from it.
There are many other comforting verses I could post but the one above is the one that brings me the most hope.

I think those of us with this fear are guilty of narrowing the Bible down to this one scary sounding verse that we lose sight of the Bible as a whole and all of the wonderful hope and promise it contains.

Stay hopeful. Don't give up!

 

[Adam113]

I have OCD. One of my major fears is the so called 'unforgivable sin'. It's scary. It hurts. I have more reason than most to believe I have committed it but I draw enormous comfort from this:

John 6:37
"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out."

These are Jesus' own words. There are no exceptions listed here. He will not reject us because he says he won't.
Therefore I tell myself that the unforgivable sin can't be anything we repent for because to do so involves coming to Jesus and asking for forgiveness. The Pharisee's did not do this. Perhaps it was their unwillingness to repent that makes them unforgiven (and by the way there is a huge difference between being unforgivable and unforgiven). Think on this and draw peace from it.
There are many other comforting verses I could post but the one above is the one that brings me the most hope.

I think those of us with this fear are guilty of narrowing the Bible down to this one scary sounding verse that we lose sight of the Bible as a whole and all of the wonderful hope and promise it contains.

Stay hopeful. Don't give up!

Thanks. I like that quote. Do you constantly think you committed it? Like it freaks you out all the time? My thing is that I was born again and felt comfortable going back to my filth while judging others. I would hate to think I threw away such a beautiful gift.

 

[aiki]

Ill try its just scary thinking that God could have rejected me and I would burn forever. I want to love God and others. I cant be re-born again so where do I start off?

Well, this is what happens when you focus on your failings: they grow to inordinate proportions. What does Paul the apostle write to the Roman Christians?

Romans 5:20
20 ...But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

You know, the issue isn't really, "Is my sin too big for God?" but, "Is my view of God too small?"

The universe and all that is in it is about God. He is the Center of Everything. Our problem is that we want to displace or replace God with ourselves. We want to be the center of everything (at least within our own sphere of existence). But when we live like we are, we inevitably move away from God into darkness.

When you are looking at your failure and your fear, you are ultimately looking at yourself. Your focus is on you. And so long as this is so, you is all you will experience. Get your eyes of yourself; recognize that your tendency to be self-centered is at work in this whole business of the unpardonable sin. It is a distraction, a ruse, the devil is using to get you off track. It may seem like your concern over this "sin" is a good thing; but it has directed your attention away from God to yourself and that is never good.

What do you mean you can't be reborn? What are you talking about, exactly?

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

Well, this is what happens when you focus on your failings: they grow to inordinate proportions. What does Paul the apostle write to the Roman Christians?

Romans 5:20
20 ...But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more,

You know, the issue isn't really, "Is my sin too big for God?" but, "Is my view of God too small?"

The universe and all that is in it is about God. He is the Center of Everything. Our problem is that we want to displace or replace God with ourselves. We want to be the center of everything (at least within our own sphere of existence). But when we live like we are, we inevitably move away from God into darkness.

When you are looking at your failure and your fear, you are ultimately looking at yourself. Your focus is on you. And so long as this is so, you is all you will experience. Get your eyes of yourself; recognize that your tendency to be self-centered is at work in this whole business of the unpardonable sin. It is a distraction, a ruse, the devil is using to get you off track. It may seem like your concern over this "sin" is a good thing; but it has directed your attention away from God to yourself and that is never good.

What do you mean you can't be reborn? What are you talking about, exactly?

Selah.

I agree i need to focus on God more. What I meant is you can only have one spiritual birth. I may need to be filled more with the Holy Spirit though

 

[aiki]

I agree i need to focus on God more. What I meant is you can only have one spiritual birth. I may need to be filled more with the Holy Spirit though

I see. You can only have one spiritual birth. All right. And on what basis do you think God gives you new spiritual life, a spiritual birth? I suspect if you got this area properly squared away in your thinking, you wouldn't be so obsessed with the unpardonable sin and losing your salvation.

The Holy Spirit fills you to the degree you are submitted to him. You see, when you empty the throne room of your heart of your Self, there is then room in it for the Holy Spirit. There isn't room for both, however. Either the Holy Spirit runs the show or you do.

The apostle Paul wrote,

Romans 12:1
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.

When you lay down all your sins, goals, desires, and rights to God, when you offer yourself as a living sacrifice to Him, then God is finally free to conform you to the image of His Son, which He does through the work of the Holy Spirit in you. But the work of the Spirit is not primarily in making you able to speak in tongues, or declare a prophecy, or make you laugh hysterically while you roll about on the floor. That stuff is, for the most part, utter nonsense. The Spirit teaches you truth, He causes you to desire holiness in your life, He imparts to you his fruit: love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and temperance. This is the fundamental work of the Spirit, not bizarre emotional highs and dubious "miracles."

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

I see. You can only have one spiritual birth. All right. And on what basis do you think God gives you new spiritual life, a spiritual birth? I suspect if you got this area properly squared away in your thinking, you wouldn't be so obsessed with the unpardonable sin and losing your salvation.

The Holy Spirit fills you to the degree you are submitted to him. You see, when you empty the throne room of your heart of your Self, there is then room in it for the Holy Spirit. There isn't room for both, however. Either the Holy Spirit runs the show or you do.

The apostle Paul wrote,

Romans 12:1
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.

When you lay down all your sins, goals, desires, and rights to God, when you offer yourself as a living sacrifice to Him, then God is finally free to conform you to the image of His Son, which He does through the work of the Holy Spirit in you. But the work of the Spirit is not primarily in making you able to speak in tongues, or declare a prophecy, or make you laugh hysterically while you roll about on the floor. That stuff is, for the most part, utter nonsense. The Spirit teaches you truth, He causes you to desire holiness in your life, He imparts to you his fruit: love, joy, peace, patience, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and temperance. This is the fundamental work of the Spirit, not bizarre emotional highs and dubious "miracles."

Selah.

Awesome reply. I cried on my knees for God to take all of me... but even when i opened the bible to romans today i opened it to the part about being reprobate. Other times its hebrews about falling away. I feel like when i was reborn i still didnt want to give up pride, money etc. .. so i felt like God said fine go save yourself

 

[aiki]

Awesome reply. I cried on my knees for God to take all of me... but even when i opened the bible to romans today i opened it to the part about being reprobate. Other times its hebrews about falling away. I feel like when i was reborn i still didnt want to give up pride, money etc. .. so i felt like God said fine go save yourself

But we all come to God as incorrigible breakers of His law. None of us have it within ourselves to be anything other than miserable sinners! It takes the power of God to make us new. Sometimes, however, we have to see just how bent toward sin we are, and how incapable of beating it on our own that we are, before really yielding to God and depending utterly upon Him as we must. And God allows His children to have their way, to behave as the Prodigal Son, and to taste the bitter consequences of doing so that they might look up from the filthy pigpen of their lives and truly desire to return to the fellowship of their Heavenly Father. You know, the entire time the Prodigal Son was off wasting his inheritance he never ceased to be his father's son. His relationship to his father could not be broken no matter how badly he behaved. What was broken, though, was the intimate fellowship with his father that he might have enjoyed if he'd made better choices.

No child of God is accepted by God on their own merits. Not one. No one is good enough ever to warrant God's acceptance. So, why does God accept us? We are sin-fouled creatures, prone to wandering, as the hymn writer declared. How can God accept any of us? How is it that faith in Christ as our Saviour gains us acceptance with God? Do you know the answer?

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

But we all come to God as incorrigible breakers of His law. None of us have it within ourselves to be anything other than miserable sinners! It takes the power of God to make us new. Sometimes, however, we have to see just how bent toward sin we are, and how incapable of beating it on our own that we are, before really yielding to God and depending utterly upon Him as we must. And God allows His children to have their way, to behave as the Prodigal Son, and to taste the bitter consequences of doing so that they might look up from the filthy pigpen of their lives and truly desire to return to the fellowship of their Heavenly Father. You know, the entire time the Prodigal Son was off wasting his inheritance he never ceased to be his father's son. His relationship to his father could not be broken no matter how badly he behaved. What was broken, though, was the intimate fellowship with his father that he might have enjoyed if he'd made better choices.

No child of God is accepted by God on their own merits. Not one. No one is good enough ever to warrant God's acceptance. So, why does God accept us? We are sin-fouled creatures, prone to wandering, as the hymn writer declared. How can God accept any of us? How is it that faith in Christ as our Saviour gains us acceptance with God? Do you know the answer?

Selah.

I woke up this morning with a sense of peace after having someone pray with me. Im hoping its real and not just because of the medicine im on. I hope God still accepts me i want to serve Him. I want to see my family in heaven!

 

[aiki]

I woke up this morning with a sense of peace after having someone pray with me. Im hoping its real and not just because of the medicine im on. I hope God still accepts me i want to serve Him. I want to see my family in heaven!

Is the medicine supposed to calm you? If so, then your peace could, at least in part, be the result of the medication. But that's okay. God uses medicine to help us, too.

Why do you want to serve God?

Why do you wonder if He'll accept you? God doesn't accept any of us on our own merits. He only accepts any of us because of what Jesus has done for us. Why are you worried, then, if God will accept you? Is Jesus's sacrifice on the cross not enough? Was his sacrifice not perfect as the Bible says?

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

Is the medicine supposed to calm you? If so, then your peace could, at least in part, be the result of the medication. But that's okay. God uses medicine to help us, too.

Why do you want to serve God?

Why do you wonder if He'll accept you? God doesn't accept any of us on our own merits. He only accepts any of us because of what Jesus has done for us. Why are you worried, then, if God will accept you? Is Jesus's sacrifice on the cross not enough? Was his sacrifice not perfect as the Bible says?

Selah.

I want to serve God because he is good. I once saw Him as a get out of hell free card. That is not the case. I dont hear His voice though and feel like I discarded salvation. The only fruit I see in my life is more self control. No joy, no peace. Im on meds because i flipped out thinking im doomed to hell.

 

[paul1149]

For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. -Rom 14:17​

There's a progression there. First comes righteousness. Not self-righteousness, but right standing with God that is an unmerited free gift through Christ.

For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. -Rom 10:3
and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith— -Phil 3:9​

Php 3 goes on to say how Paul forgets what went before and presses on to the high calling. Right-standing leads to peace, and peace leads to joy. If you doubt your righteousness in Christ, you short-circuit that progression. But to do so you have to elevate your sin above Christ's sacrifice. What possible basis is there for doing that? None. Christ as perfect man paid our debt completely. Christ as Son of God overpaid our debt and elevated us far above anything our original father Adam could have attained. There is no power in the universe greater than the blood of the Lamb. It is the very vehicle of God's love.

God has not given us a spirit of fear (2Tim 1.7). This is not of Him. Rather, He has set us free from the fear of death and the bondage it brings in this life (Heb 2.15). You need only accept it. Don't put feelings or past performance first. Accept it as truth. Commit yourself to it, establish your heart in it, build your life on it. In time the feelings will come. Don't give up on God. The meek and lowly One will not reject you. Only come sincerely and you will find rest (Mt 11.28-ff). The Author is also the Finisher (Heb 13). He who has begun a good work in you will complete it (php 1), and will work all things for good (Rm 8.28). Fear not; only believe.

 

[aiki]

I want to serve God because he is good.

Oh? It doesn't seem like you really believe that. Why would you be "flipping out" about going to hell if you thought God was good? Would a good God throw you into hell when you were desperate for Him to save you from such a fate? That doesn't seem like a good God to me. Or the kind of God who is revealed in the Bible. Jesus said,

John 6:37
37 ...the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

What do you mean by "hear God's voice"? Do you expect to hear an actual, audible or internal voice? And what about the Bible? It is God's Word to you; He speaks to all of His children through it; every word on every page is God speaking to us. I don't get, then, why you are concerned about hearing God's voice. Don't you have a Bible?

Does the fruit on a tree develop overnight? Does all of the fruit appear at exactly the same time and in the same degree?

Selah.

 

[Adam113]

Oh? It doesn't seem like you really believe that. Why would you be "flipping out" about going to hell if you thought God was good? Would a good God throw you into hell when you were desperate for Him to save you from such a fate? That doesn't seem like a good God to me. Or the kind of God who is revealed in the Bible. Jesus said,

John 6:37
37 ...the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.

What do you mean by "hear God's voice"? Do you expect to hear an actual, audible or internal voice? And what about the Bible? It is God's Word to you; He speaks to all of His children through it; every word on every page is God speaking to us. I don't get, then, why you are concerned about hearing God's voice. Don't you have a Bible?

Does the fruit on a tree develop overnight? Does all of the fruit appear at exactly the same time and in the same degree?

Selah.

I feel i was born again but basically never fully submitted. I dove head first into sin. Everytime I open the bible now it takes me to condemning verses. Parable of the sower... cares of this world choke the word of God out of the heart.. also hebrews 6.