terrible blasphemous thoughts

[Matt112]

Hi,

I haven't posted on here for a while but things are getting kind of desperate. I am suffering from persistent blasphemous thoughts calling Jesus a trick and a fraud and I find it extremely difficult to get rid of them. The worse thing is I even find it difficult to constantly trust in Jesus. I realise this is very blasphemous but I wish I could get out. All the time I am praying:

"Jesus please take these thoughts away and let me trust you with my whole heart."

But he never answers. He has left me alone for such a long time it's hard even to believe he exists. But through my small shreds of faith I have chosen to perservere and keep praying and asking for help but it's hard. I used to believe that these thoughts were direct injections from the devil but this belief soon sent me into fully neurotic paranoid state; i was thinking satan was picking on me all the time.

I have come to the conclusion that these thoughts are part of a mental condition called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - but I'm still not sure.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[tapero]

Hi,

I haven't posted on here for a while but things are getting kind of desperate. I am suffering from persistent blasphemous thoughts calling Jesus a trick and a fraud and I find it extremely difficult to get rid of them. The worse thing is I even find it difficult to constantly trust in Jesus. I realise this is very blasphemous but I wish I could get out. All the time I am praying:

"Jesus please take these thoughts away and let me trust you with my whole heart."

But he never answers. He has left me alone for such a long time it's hard even to believe he exists. But through my small shreds of faith I have chosen to perservere and keep praying and asking for help but it's hard. I used to believe that these thoughts were direct injections from the devil but this belief soon sent me into fully neurotic paranoid state; i was thinking satan was picking on me all the time.

I have come to the conclusion that these thoughts are part of a mental condition called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - but I'm still not sure.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hi, There's a verse that could help you. Many of us have these very thoughts and I think part of it is satan.

The scripture is form 2 Cor 10:

4The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ

That means to take every thought to Christ. When you have a thought, say I take this thought captive to make it obedient to Christ. Keep doing that with your thoughts. It should help. Also again, many of us struggle with the same thing. For some reason it happens alot all of a sudden and then it's gone.

Blessings to you, Tapero

 

[Onlythingavailable]

I too suffer from Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I haven't had myself diagnosed or anything , I just recognize it from descriptions of symptoms I've read. At first the thoughts were very alarming, but as time has gone by, I've gotten "used" to them. That, of course, doesn't mean I like them in the least.

As you've said, the thoughts aren't from you. You don't even want them near you. And if you know this, then you can be even more sure that God knows it.

If you feel that they are becoming a problem that hinders you from living your life, you should consider talking to somebody with more experience, a therapist perhaps. I've gotten the impression that OCD is quite common, but if left untreated it can become debilitating.

I don't know if Jesus will take away the thoughts from you fully, but I do know that he can stop them from ruling over you. Someone once posted on this board that whenever he was tempted, he would state "Get behind me, devil". I've found this to help me as well. Trust in God and Jesus, for he has conquered the world.

God Bless.

 

[nowhereville]

First, I would get checked out by a medical professional - I only say this because somethings are not cool like bad thought patterns and I would be worried about the possibility of you hurting yourself. A christian counselor would most likely be cool too.

The funny thing is that the devil can give us thoughts and it happens to all of us. Since Jesus is our model, we need to look to him for our answer. A lot of people will tell you to rebuke those thoughts, but you know I can think of only one time when jesus rebuked the devil - the other times I can recall he said, It is written - meaning God as the authority and he has said.

We have been given the same authority as joint heirs. The next time you have a thought like that - say outloud something like"Ummm NO it is written that God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son so I don't think so." (That's how I talk to God, no need to be all fancy and long winded). I've found this to be extremely effective in my life and thought processes.

 

[DarkCloud]

Hi,

I would stop thinking about these things and concentrate on life and always keep yourself busy. With time, hopefully you will break the habit. Also, if you think you might have OCD, see a doctor, because I think the earlier you get treatment, the easier it will be to treat it. I.e., it could get worse over the years if left unchecked.

In any case, seeing a dr. is still worthwhile just to give you peace of mind whether you actually have it or not.

 

[woobadooba]

Hi,

I haven't posted on here for a while but things are getting kind of desperate. I am suffering from persistent blasphemous thoughts calling Jesus a trick and a fraud and I find it extremely difficult to get rid of them. The worse thing is I even find it difficult to constantly trust in Jesus. I realise this is very blasphemous but I wish I could get out. All the time I am praying:

"Jesus please take these thoughts away and let me trust you with my whole heart."

But he never answers. He has left me alone for such a long time it's hard even to believe he exists. But through my small shreds of faith I have chosen to perservere and keep praying and asking for help but it's hard. I used to believe that these thoughts were direct injections from the devil but this belief soon sent me into fully neurotic paranoid state; i was thinking satan was picking on me all the time.

I have come to the conclusion that these thoughts are part of a mental condition called Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - but I'm still not sure.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

When I first became a Christian I had this problem too. In fact, sometimes it still happens.

At first I felt really bad, because I thought that I was the one who was thinking in this way about Jesus. But I later learned that demons can plant thoughts like this into our minds to discourage us, and cause us to believe that we are damned.

But the more I read God's word, and filled my mind with scripture, and occupied my time with godly things, the less these thoughts came into my mind.

So my advice to you is to spend more time in the word of God. In fact, memorize scripture (Bible promises), and when these things happen to you, you can use these verses to ward off the enemy. And be sure to spend your time doing things that God approves of. For, when you do things that are contrary to the will of God you make yourself vulnerable for such attacks on the mind as these.

God bless you.

 

[Matt112]

Thanks guys.

 

[george]

Well...first of all, the fact that you are concerned about this means, that you don't mean these things at all in your heart. if you did, you would not be concerned about it.

When I first became a christian, I had all kinds of crazy thoughts in my mine, and at first. it bother me a little, but as I kept praising God and staying in his word and memerizing it. it flush those thoughts away. they still pop up every now and then. but they don't rule me at all. cause I know that,God knows our hearts.

And his word in roman chpt 8 which you can read. tells us...that their is now, NO! condemnation in those who are in CHRIST JESUS. absoulty nothing. everything satan puts in your mine, just believe the very opposite. he is the father of lies.

 

[followjesus777]

Excellent advice get in 'the Word'(the sword!)SCRIPTURE!~
Rebuke the demonicly planted thoughts through the Name of Jesus Christ!~...say out loud..."Get behind me satan...i renounce that and denounce that and give it power...satan it is written...you are a defeated foe i rebuke you in the Name of Jesus Christ my Lord!~"
Be blessed!~PTL JESUS CHRIST!~GLORY TO GOD!~

 

[inHisgripkim]

Thanks guys.

Matt:

I don't know if you go to church or to bible study. Fellowship is a powerful way to keep you focused on the Lord and it keeps your faith strong. I started church about a year ago, and it has made a big difference. Associating with Christ-centered people keeps you standing in God's presence. You are able to share the Lord and that is the ultimate blessing and such a wonderful feeling.

 

[RomanPrincess]

try rebuking ... everytime you have bad thoughts. Open your bible and study it...reading and KNOWING the word of God is your defense.. It is your sword.
Study your bible as if you were studying for a test and Apply the teachings to your life,Live out what the bible teaches and watch it work in your life.You will become stronger and wiser..pray for knowlege and wisdom and strength too ...anyone who prays for these will be given these things.

 

[RomanPrincess]

meditate on the word of God day and night...think about it each day.