Ten comandments; Intersting

[Billnew]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,149197,00.html

Poll

— 76% of Americans surveyed are ok with displaying Ten Commandments on government ground.

— 23% opposed displaying the commandments on government property.
— That poll was conducted by Ipsos for the AP. It has a margin of error of +/- 3 points.

[/ This is the first Supreme Court hearing about the Ten Commandments in 24 years.

— The last ruling was in 1980, when the Supreme Court struck down a Kentucky law requiring that the Ten Commandments be displayed in public classrooms.

— Since then, lower courts have made about two dozen conflicting rulings on the subject.

— The Bush administration is siding with Kentucky and Texas in support of the displays.QUOTE]

I think it's about time to have the "final"word on this. Doubt it will happen in my lifetime, but isn't that what Supreme Court is suppose to do?

I thought the poll was intersting by Posters here on the forum I thought it would have be closer to 60/40 or 55/45.

How can you ask someone to swear on a bible, to tell the truth, pray for the Supreme Court, and the Congress and Senate, have "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our currency. How can the Ten comandments be unConstitutional?

Without god?

 

[Doctrine1st]

Don't care, has absolutely no relevance to me. And given their daily activities, certainly to those within the walls of Government with, killing, bearing false witness, coveting, stealing, and adultry, it doesn't have any affect on them either, except when it comes to pandering.

We Americans like our symbols, might as well put a Lettermen's top ten list up.

 

[ade32]

Don't care either. I can see both sides of the story. Whether or not there is a monument there is irrelevent. At the end of the day, if its there or not, there is still going to be a heaven and an earth and Jesus is Lord whether the state endorses its or not.

What gets me is that conservatives paint this as a reason to promote liberal bashing, trying to take God out of society, making us all atheists, blah de blah. I'd like to say now that most liberals don't really care about this issue and the people who are fighting against the placement of the monument do NOT represent liberals.

 

[ZACTAK]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,149197,00.html

Poll

— 76% of Americans surveyed are ok with displaying Ten Commandments on government ground.

— 23% opposed displaying the commandments on government property.
— That poll was conducted by Ipsos for the AP. It has a margin of error of +/- 3 points.

[/ This is the first Supreme Court hearing about the Ten Commandments in 24 years.

— The last ruling was in 1980, when the Supreme Court struck down a Kentucky law requiring that the Ten Commandments be displayed in public classrooms.

— Since then, lower courts have made about two dozen conflicting rulings on the subject.

— The Bush administration is siding with Kentucky and Texas in support of the displays.QUOTE]

I think it's about time to have the "final"word on this. Doubt it will happen in my lifetime, but isn't that what Supreme Court is suppose to do?

I thought the poll was intersting by Posters here on the forum I thought it would have be closer to 60/40 or 55/45.

How can you ask someone to swear on a bible, to tell the truth, pray for the Supreme Court, and the Congress and Senate, have "IN GOD WE TRUST" on our currency. How can the Ten comandments be unConstitutional?

Without god?

There technically is nothing in the Constitution about a seperation of church and state. What people are referring to is a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a church about seperation of church and state. The First Amendment talks about freedom of religion... we have the freedom to choose what religion we want to follow. It doesn't say we have freedom from religion.

 

[praying]

And given their daily activities, certainly to those within the walls of Government with, bearing false witness, coveting, stealing, and adultry, it doesn't have any affect on them either, except when it comes to pandering.

This is such a sad but true statement and they neve meant much to many in government in practice.

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

Sure, it should be allowed. I don't see what's the big deal about the 10 Commandments on display in public. I certainly have to see enough pagan symbology. Why not?

 

[k]

The T.C. should not be allowed on government property because it inherently tells people we are living under a mock hypocritical Christian theocracy. If we are going to allow something from the Bible on government property then we should make room to have something from the Qu'ran, Buddha, Hindu, Taoism, etc.

 

[Vylo]

Our law is not based on the 10 commandments, and should not be on display there. As for separation, it is part of the constitution. Jefferson wrote it, I think anything he wrote in regards to it makes it pretty explicit what he meant therein.

Separation, however does not mean that one has to shed, or hide their religion. If one is allowed to give a speech while accepting a public office, they should be able to include prayer in it if they so chose.

 

[seebs]

If church and state are not kept separated, the government will eventually dictate church policy; this is the nature of governments.

 

[nadroj1985]

The ten commandments really ought to be kept away from government places, to keep a healthy separation of church and state. One could say that this or that issue is not that important, but it's hard to draw the line that way; the more we allow mixing of church and state, the more likely it is that we will move towards the church corrupting the state and vice versa. I don't want that, and I don't see why anyone else would either.

I have to vote for the last option. It ought to not be on our money, prayers probably should be made personal if they're done in a governmental meeting, and we definitely shouldn't be asked to swear on a Bible. Swearing oaths is unBiblical, anyway. That whole practice is rather silly.

 

[utdbear]

If this is struck down, what are they going to do with the 40 references to the 10 commandments engraved into the Supreme Court building?

 

[Alarum]

If this is struck down, what are they going to do with the 40 references to the 10 commandments engraved into the Supreme Court building?

Along with that picture of Mohammad.

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

If church and state are not kept separated, the government will eventually dictate church policy; this is the nature of governments.

They already do, and it has nothing to do with a TC statue. They call it 501(c)(3)

 

[seebs]

They already do, and it has nothing to do with a TC statue. They call it 501(c)(3)

It's bad now. I don't think I want to make it worse.

 

[lucid42day]

The T.C. should not be allowed on government property because it inherently tells people we are living under a mock hypocritical Christian theocracy. If we are going to allow something from the Bible on government property then we should make room to have something from the Qu'ran, Buddha, Hindu, Taoism, etc.

But I thought that the monument that can be sculpted was not the way...

 

[lucid42day]

This appears to be part of an overall pattern that I see. In order to have your way you have to find an issue with no real consequence and truly seize upon it. It isn't really that the movers or shakers want the Ten Commandments really care where it's displayed or not displayed, but it is so much easier to get someone to do something when you tell them to if they've already done what you wanted before.

I replied to the poll that I didn't really care and truly I don't. I am an agnostic and I thought there were a lot more than ten to begin with. But this is a hunt for foot soldiers in a war that isn't there over a monument that may as well be of a loaf of bread.

I don't get it, but I'm not that interested in power. I would rather do something myself than ask someone else to do it. That's two things I don't think you'll see from the top echelons of this movement.

 

[Doctrine1st]

If this is struck down, what are they going to do with the 40 references to the 10 commandments engraved into the Supreme Court building?

40 references of the 10 commandments as given to Moses on Mt. Sinai from God? They can always turn it into a shrine honoring ancient near east mythology.

 

[Glaz]

My county still has its ten commandments on display, been there for almost 200 years now and somehow the world didn't end and we haven't turned into a theocracy.........

 

[Redneck]

Get religion out of all Government affairs. Off the money, no prayers before meetings.

What about those State Constitutions? Is the Supreme Court going to declare part of a Constitution unconstitutional?

 

[k]

But I thought that the monument that can be sculpted was not the way...

It's not, but it looks sooooo pretty and adoring!!