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Ten arguments for intelligent design

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It is important, for the sake of spirituality, that we divide the man into three parts… Physical, Spiritual, and Intellectual. If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2) And there are three varieties...

E - Energy measured in Joules. 1000 joules = 1 BTU, which is the amount of energy required to raise temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. This is a unit of heat.
c - Light - c2 is the speed of light squared. Radiation is electromagnetic waves.

I believe that matter is encapsulated energy and light. If we split or fuse the atom we will see demonstrated the same energy and light that went into its creation.

Natural E/c2 - All mass is basically cooled plasma, the sun is the visible form of E/c2
Mental E/c2 - Our thinking can produce creativeness, light, and good things
Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)

The Natural E/c2 in the form of mass produces a gravity that attracts other objects. The fission and fusion process releases energy and light. The Earth needs an ozone layer to protect us against the radioactive properties of light, which is another product of intellectual design.
The Intellectual E/c2 produces a gravity that draws us to study and can radiate much good. “To the illuminated mind the whole world burns and sparkles with light.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson
The Spiritual E/c2 also has a gravity that draws and makes religion attractive. The spirit can also radiate wavelengths and warmth to create a pleasant character.
 
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This thread has me wondering: do people who post weird nonsense actually know they are posting weird nonsense?
Go after the warmth (E) and the radiation (c2)!

Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God. Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. - Isaiah 50:10-11
 
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Foolishness - thinking the number of Youtube video views equals amount of relevance/importance/'correctness' of one's claims.

Stupidity - using the number of youtube video views over the course of 12 years as support for making foolish claims (curious that you embellished that number a few years ago...).

And a whole 10k subscribers - amazing! Pewdie Pie the alt-right Minecraft playing 30 year old - 97 MILLION. He is 9,700 times more important than your evangelical video channel.

Foolish stupidity - thinking replacing the 'variables' in E = mc^2 is clever and supporting of evangelical christianity.

You do, however, have your own entry on the site "Fundies say the darndest things"! :bow:^_^^_^^_^

When a superior man hears of the Tao
(the interaction of light and darkness),
he immediately begins to embody it.
When an average man hears of the Tao,
he half believes it, half doubts it.
When a foolish man hears of the Tao,
he laughs out loud. If such a one didn't laugh, it wouldn't be the Tao. - Lao-Tzu
 
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Go after the warmth (E) and the radiation (c2)!

Who is among you that feareth the Lord, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the Lord, and stay upon his God. Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. - Isaiah 50:10-11
The spiritual anointing flows from the presence of energy (warmth and motivation) and light (radiation). To find it and put it to use requires training and experience in the arts of spiritual radiation. Here we have Luke Skywalker learning to put this force to practice in his own life...

[Luke can't levitate his X-Wing out of the bog]

Luke: I can't. It's too big.
Yoda: Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship.

[Using the Force, Yoda effortlessly frees the X-Wing from the bog]
Luke: I don't, I don't believe it.
Yoda: That is why you fail.
 
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The specifics of creation....

1. The human brain contains 100 billion brain cells
2. 2 million brain cells die every minute
3. 14 billion synapses, the vital intersections between neurons Die every minute
4. The brain has top priority for blood, just like RAM memory needs electricity in a computer.
5. The blood needs to be cleansed by organs like the liver and kidneys so glucose and oxygen can keep the brain going. Loose the liver and kidneys and you will get very sick real fast.
6. The eyes need to stay clear. Tears need to secrete via the lacrimal gland a clear lubricating chemistry to the eye. The eye needs the desired image to arrive at the correct place so the retina can process the image in full color to the brain.
7. The body needs to regulate the correct levels of glucose and oxygen at the correct temperature. Too much or too little sugar can quickly destroy the human organs causing all kinds of problems, including blindness. The pancreas has two main functions: an exocrine function that helps in digestion and an endocrine function that regulates blood sugar.
8. The body needs a male sperm to connect with a female egg to reform the human in a womb and put all these complexities together again.
9. Putting everything together and the human body contains about 40 trillion living cells, all with some kind of function to contribute to a healthy human body.
10. All these cells need the correct chemistry from planet earth to stay alive.

All of which came together by intelligent design.
If one looks at how it is that the Bride of Christ is made up of the Sons of God one will see an understanding of human biology that ancient people did not have.
 
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The symmetrical spider web. Put there by a creature with the brain the size of a grain of sand. Another argument for intelligent design!

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And the intelligent designer also had to be very good at organic chemistry...

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The effects of the chemistry are not good!
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The human brain contains 100 billion brain cells
2. 2 million brain cells die every minute

If this is correct, all our brain cells should die in 50,000 minutes, or 35 days. Are you sure that you have the numbers right?
 
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If this is correct, all our brain cells should die in 50,000 minutes, or 35 days. Are you sure that you have the numbers right?
I think he was using the measured rate in creationists.
 
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If this is correct, all our brain cells should die in 50,000 minutes, or 35 days. Are you sure that you have the numbers right?
There are a lot of brain cells...

Are There Really as Many Neurons in the Human Brain as Stars in the Milky Way? | Brain Metrics | Learn Science at Scitable

I have not thoroughly read my reference, apologies....

When a clot blocks your artery at the start of a stroke, the damage is swift. Consider what happens next:
  • Every second, 32,000 neurons -- brain cells -- die; that's 1.9 million in a minute.
  • In that same minute, your brain loses 14 billion synapses, the vital intersections between neurons.
  • Also lost in that minute are 7.5 miles of myelinated fibers through which thoughts pass.
My references were in case of a stroke, in which I overlooked. In reality the numbers are more like 10,000 a day if you take care of yourself.... and 300,000 a day if you don’t take care of yourself. The effects of your lifestyle have a great impact here.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-neurons-in-our-brains-die-every-day

Good catch, again, apologies. I am a fanatic on good diet and lifestyle habits and this stuff is important to me.
 
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There are a lot of brain cells...

Are There Really as Many Neurons in the Human Brain as Stars in the Milky Way? | Brain Metrics | Learn Science at Scitable

I have not thoroughly read my reference, apologies....

When a clot blocks your artery at the start of a stroke, the damage is swift. Consider what happens next:
  • Every second, 32,000 neurons -- brain cells -- die; that's 1.9 million in a minute.
  • In that same minute, your brain loses 14 billion synapses, the vital intersections between neurons.
  • Also lost in that minute are 7.5 miles of myelinated fibers through which thoughts pass.
My references were in case of a stroke, in which I overlooked. In reality the numbers are more like 10,000 a day if you take care of yourself.... and 300,000 a day if you don’t take care of yourself. The effects of your lifestyle have a great impact here.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-neurons-in-our-brains-die-every-day

Good catch, again, apologies. I am a fanatic on good diet and lifestyle habits and this stuff is important to me.

Due to my errors here I had to rewrite the OP. The specifics of creation....

1. The human brain contains 100 billion brain cells
2. The mysteries of warmth (E) and radiation (c2) in mass, the mind, and the heart.
3. The mysteries of organic chemistry and its workings in animals.
4. The brain has top priority for blood, just like RAM memory needs electricity in a computer.
5. The blood needs to be cleansed by organs like the liver and kidneys so glucose and oxygen can keep the brain going. Loose the liver and kidneys and you will get very sick real fast.
6. The eyes need to stay clear. Tears need to secrete via the lacrimal gland a clear lubricating chemistry to the eye. The eye needs the desired image to arrive at the correct place so the retina can process the image in full color to the brain.
7. The body needs to regulate the correct levels of glucose and oxygen at the correct temperature. Too much or too little sugar can quickly destroy the human organs causing all kinds of problems, including blindness. The pancreas has two main functions: an exocrine function that helps in digestion and an endocrine function that regulates blood sugar.
8. The body needs a male sperm to connect with a female egg to reform the human in a womb and put all these complexities together again.
9. Putting everything together and the human body contains about 40 trillion living cells, all with some kind of function to contribute to a healthy human body.
10. All these cells need the correct chemistry from planet earth to stay alive.

All of which came together by intelligent design.
 
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There are a lot of brain cells...

Are There Really as Many Neurons in the Human Brain as Stars in the Milky Way? | Brain Metrics | Learn Science at Scitable

I have not thoroughly read my reference, apologies....

When a clot blocks your artery at the start of a stroke, the damage is swift. Consider what happens next:
  • Every second, 32,000 neurons -- brain cells -- die; that's 1.9 million in a minute.
  • In that same minute, your brain loses 14 billion synapses, the vital intersections between neurons.
  • Also lost in that minute are 7.5 miles of myelinated fibers through which thoughts pass.
My references were in case of a stroke, in which I overlooked. In reality the numbers are more like 10,000 a day if you take care of yourself.... and 300,000 a day if you don’t take care of yourself. The effects of your lifestyle have a great impact here.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-neurons-in-our-brains-die-every-day

Good catch, again, apologies. I am a fanatic on good diet and lifestyle habits and this stuff is important to me.

The mystery of forgetting things. Probably due to lost neurons, synapses, and myelinated fibers.
 
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It is important, for the sake of spirituality, that we divide the man into three parts… Physical, Spiritual, and Intellectual. If E = mc2 then we can divide and conclude that...

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2) And there are three varieties...

E - Energy measured in Joules. 1000 joules = 1 BTU, which is the amount of energy required to raise temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. This is a unit of heat.
c - Light - c2 is the speed of light squared. Radiation is electromagnetic waves.

A warmed (E) and radiated (c2) heart is the best way of mentally understanding the ways of the intelligent designer. The fire can exist in matter, in the mind, and in the heart.

The opposite of Energy would be absolute zero (which I will call z)
The opposite of Light would be darkness (which I will call d)
The opposite of Mass would be nothing (which I will call n)

As the opposite of mass is space, or nothing, so the darkness and absolute zero cannot be measured as with a formula such as E=mc2. But if I could estimate the opposites....

Spiritual E/c2 - E (motivation, warmth, love) / c2 (faith, hope, charity, joy)
Spiritual z/d - z (laziness, cold, hatred) / d (fear, depression, greed, sorrow)

All equating to a cold and darkened heart, which has its effects on the intelligent design and must be considered as important factors here on planet earth.
 
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The mysteries of the interaction of light and darkness for me is lifelong study. I first saw it working with spectrometers and have been studying it ever since.

Mass (m) = Energy (E/c2) And there are three varieties...

E - Energy measured in Joules. 1000 joules = 1 BTU, which is the amount of energy required to raise temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. This is a unit of heat.
c - Light - c2 is the speed of light squared. Radiation is electromagnetic waves.

A warmed (E) and radiated (c2) heart is the best way of mentally understanding the ways of the intelligent designer. The fire can exist in matter, in the mind, and in the heart.

Blaise Pascal was a French mathematician, physicist, inventor, writer and Catholic theologian who once said,

"The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of... We know the truth not only by the reason, but by the heart."
“It is the heart which perceives God and not the reason,” says Pascal

I must go along with Blaise Pascal that we need to include spirituality as well as logic in our quest in understanding the intellectual designer.
 
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“At fifteen I was bent upon learning. At thirty I stood firm. At forty I was free from doubt. At fifty I knew the dictates of heaven. At sixty my ear was obedient for the reception of truth. At seventy could follow what my heart desired without transgressing that which was right." - Confucius

Age - Experience
15 - Bent upon learning
30 - Stood firm
40 - Free from doubt
50 - Knew the dictates of heaven
60 - Ear was open for the reception of truth
70 - Could follow what his heart desired without transgressing that which was right

...And....

*The superior man on literary grounds meets with his friend and by their friendship helps his virtue. *The superior man seeks to devise the admirable qualities of men. The ordinary man does the opposite of this. *The practice of right living is deemed the highest. Complete virtue takes first place; the doing of anything else whatsoever is subordinate *When you do not know a thing, to acknowledge that you do not know, is knowledge. *In archery, we have something like the way of the superior man. When the archer misses the center of the target, he turns around and seeks the cause of his failure within himself.

I must admit here that I missed the target with this thread. In which I turn, and seek the cause of failure within myself.
 
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In which case there is some hope. Not a lot, but it's a start.
Turning out like you is not an option for me. After Christ revealed himself to me it would be a terrible thing for me to become the least bit like you.
 
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Threads started, or responses made, to simply disparage science will be considered off topic to the forum.
Most respondents are hoping for actual science to make an appearance in this thread, given that this is in the science section of this forum.

The thing about science is that it should be open to skepticism and critique, if not, then you aren't doing science.

This "A warmed (E) and radiated (c2) heart is the best way of mentally understanding the ways of the intelligent designer" isn't science.
I'm pretty sure he isn't suggesting that we can use a thermometer (scientific tool) to get the temperature (objective measurement) of a heart (physical organic object) in order to assess if the owner of the heart is mentally understanding the ways of an intelligent designer.

For example, my heart is at body temperature (approximately 37 degrees Celsius) and this would typically be the same temperature of most humans who don't have a fever.
Either having a fever or exercising or maybe experiencing hypothermia can alter a person's body temperature and thus probably affecting the temperature of this person's heart.
IF the temperature of the heart changes (when having a fever, or during exercise or having hypothermia) does this mean this person's "understanding of the ways of the intelligent designer" changes? They start to understand less or more???

Other than measuring the temperature of the heart, how can we assess and objectively quantify the level of understanding this person has?
 
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