Ten arguments for intelligent design

[ruthiesea]

Here are the 10 arguments for intelligent design:
I believe it;
I believe it;
I believe it;
I believe it;
I believe it;
I believe it;
I believe it;
I believe it;
I believe it; and
I believe it.

 

[sjastro]

To say the Big Bang occurred without the make-up of what instigated it turning to plasma energy (E/c2) is utter nonsense.

Sorry but your comment is utter nonsense.
Plasma is the primordial component from the very early universe from which particles and photons were formed.

This primordial plasma however is very different from the plasma you are familiar with.
It is a quark/gluon plasma which unlike “ordinary” plasma composed of unit charges interacting via a single electromagnetic force, has fractional charges and three color forces.

Quark/gluon plasma can only exist at extremely high temperatures at energies greater than 10¹⁵ GeV; conditions which existed in the very early universe when a global symmetry existed resulting in the strong and electoweak forces being unified at the time, before the symmetry was broken into the strong and electroweak forces and finally into the strong, weak and electromagnetic forces we observe today along with gravity.

Quark/gluon plasma can exist very briefly in high energy collisions in particle accelerators such as the LHC.

 

[Astrophile]

The product would be plasma energy (E/c2) that would cool back into mass (M). The plasma (E/c2) would freeze into the elements from Hydrogen (the lightest element) to Uranium (the heaviest naturally occurring element).

Only hydrogen, helium and lithium were created in the Big Bang. All the elements from carbon upwards were formed by nuclear reactions in stars. Uranium was probably formed by neutron capture reactions in supernovae or in merging neutron stars, like the gravitational-wave event of 17th August 2017 - see GW170817 - Wikipedia .

 

[ruthiesea]

As a follow up to my previous post, here are 10 arguments against intelligent design:
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it; And
I don’t believe it.

In other words, the belief in intelligent design does not preclude the validity of science and science does not preclude the validity of intelligent design. They can both be correct.

 

[Subduction Zone]

As a follow up to my previous post, here are 10 arguments against intelligent design:
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it;
I don’t believe it; And
I don’t believe it.

In other words, the belief in intelligent design does not preclude the validity of science and science does not preclude the validity of intelligent design. They can both be correct.

Actually the argument against intelligent design is roughly the same as the argument against pink pixellated pixies:

I have not seen any reliable evidence for intelligent design. Show me some and I will change my mind.

 

[ruthiesea]

Actually the argument against intelligent design is roughly the same as the argument against pink pixellated pixies:

I have not seen any reliable evidence for intelligent design. Show me some and I will change my mind.

Nor is there any reliable evidence against intelligent design. It a religious belief. Either you believe it or you don’t. However, on the other hand science does not state that there isn’t an intelligent designer. Science does not study the idea because it a religious belief, not a scientific hypothesis.

As Robert L. Dorit said, “The hand of God may well be all around us, but it is not, nor can it be, the task of science to dust for fingerprints.”

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nor is there any reliable evidence against intelligent design. It a religious belief. Either you believe it or you don’t. However, on the other hand science does not state that there isn’t an intelligent designer. Science does not study the idea because it a religious belief, not a scientific hypothesis.

As Robert L. Dorit said, “The hand of God may well be all around us, but it is not, nor can it be, the task of science to dust for fingerprints.”

None is needed. There is no reliable evidence against pink pixellated pixies either. And if there was evidence for it science would study it. It is irrational to believe in concepts not supported by evidence since there are an almost infinite number of ideas not supported by evidence. The time to believe is after an idea is well supported by evidence, at which point it is not even technically a "belief" any longer.

 

[Ophiolite]

Science does not study the idea because it a religious belief, not a scientific hypothesis.

Unfortunately the Discovery Institute and like minded bodies and individuals appear not to agree with you.

 

[rockytopva]

I notice hummingbirds in these Virginian mountains on their spring migration in April as they are traveling north, and again in July as they are traveling south. I believe they fly as far north as Canada and as far south as South America and it is said that they can remember the same feeders.

This is a pretty good feat for a creature with a brain the size of a pea. I believe the eye of the intelligent designer is on these creatures and they do not fall to the ground without him....

Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. - Matthew 10:29

A land which the Lord thy God careth for: the eyes of the Lord thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year. - Deuteronomy 11:12

And in remembrance of my dear old granny.

 

[rockytopva]

Sorry but your comment is utter nonsense.
Plasma is the primordial component from the very early universe from which particles and photons were formed.

This primordial plasma however is very different from the plasma you are familiar with.
It is a quark/gluon plasma which unlike “ordinary” plasma composed of unit charges interacting via a single electromagnetic force, has fractional charges and three color forces.

Quark/gluon plasma can only exist at extremely high temperatures at energies greater than 10¹⁵ GeV; conditions which existed in the very early universe when a global symmetry existed resulting in the strong and electoweak forces being unified at the time, before the symmetry was broken into the strong and electroweak forces and finally into the strong, weak and electromagnetic forces we observe today along with gravity.

Quark/gluon plasma can exist very briefly in high energy collisions in particle accelerators such as the LHC.

It is by mathematical formula that all mass is made up of energy and light...

E - Energy measured in Joules. 1000 joules = 1 BTU, which is the amount of energy required to raise temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. This is a unit of heat.
c - Light - c2 is the speed of light squared. Radiation is electromagnetic waves. As the speed of light is in the denominator, and is an enormous number, shows an enormous amount of energy sewed into each atom.

Radiation, heat, light, plasma, electromagnetism, and energy all come from the product of mass, or E/c2. And proceed from... “Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.” - James 1:17

Plasma - I remember in the space shuttle days hearing the commentators refer to thrust and re-entree from the space shuttle as plasma energy. The title on the video below calls this a Plasma Trial...

 

[Ophiolite]

It is by mathematical formula that all mass is made up of energy and light...

E - Energy measured in Joules. 1000 joules = 1 BTU, which is the amount of energy required to raise temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. This is a unit of heat.
c - Light - c2 is the speed of light squared. Radiation is electromagnetic waves. As the speed of light is in the denominator, and is an enormous number, shows an enormous amount of energy sewed into each atom.

Radiation, heat, light, plasma, electromagnetism, and energy all come from the product of mass, or E/c2. And proceed from... “Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.” - James 1:17

Plasma - I remember in the space shuttle days hearing the commentators refer to thrust and re-entree from the space shuttle as plasma energy. The title on the video below calls this a Plasma Trial...

You know, you might just show a knowledgeable poster like sjastro a little more respect by actually paying attention to what they have written. In that way you would not further embarrass yourself by duplicating your earlier errors and adding irrelevancies.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It is by mathematical formula that all mass is made up of energy and light...

E - Energy measured in Joules. 1000 joules = 1 BTU, which is the amount of energy required to raise temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. This is a unit of heat.
c - Light - c2 is the speed of light squared. Radiation is electromagnetic waves. As the speed of light is in the denominator, and is an enormous number, shows an enormous amount of energy sewed into each atom.

Radiation, heat, light, plasma, electromagnetism, and energy all come from the product of mass, or E/c2. And proceed from... “Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.” - James 1:17

Plasma - I remember in the space shuttle days hearing the commentators refer to thrust and re-entree from the space shuttle as plasma energy. The title on the video below calls this a Plasma Trial...

JFYI, electromagnetic waves are just one form of radiation; and plasma is one of the four 'fundamental' states of matter: solid, liquid, gas, plasma. School physics 101.

Also, energy isn't 'stuff' in its own right, it's a property that stuff has by virtue of its state and/or context.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Especially taking care of the digestion system...

Should be taught from the earliest grades.

 

[rockytopva]

When I pray to the intelligent designer I generally will pray...

Our Father which art in Heaven
Hallowed be thy name
By kingdom come
Thy will be done
As in Earth as it is in Heaven
Give me this day my daily bread
Forgive me my debts as I forgive my debtors
Lead me not into temptation but deliver me from evil
For thine is the power!
For thine in the energy!
For thine is the light!
For thine is the E/c2!
Father in thee are all things
By thy command the plasma freezes into mass
By thy command the mass disassociates back into plasma
Remember me in thy power and thy light
And bless me I pray!
In Jesus name I pray! Amen!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

... I feel like I've walked into a weird Lewis Carroll-esque story.

 

[Ophiolite]

... I feel like I've walked into a weird Lewis Carroll-esque story.

It's not the same.

Alice woke up. We don't have that option.

 

[rockytopva]

I notice hummingbirds in these Virginian mountains on their spring migration in April as they are traveling north, and again in July as they are traveling south. I believe they fly as far north as Canada and as far south as South America and it is said that they can remember the same feeders.

This is a pretty good feat for a creature with a brain the size of a pea. I believe the eye of the intelligent designer is on these creatures and they do not fall to the ground without him....

Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. - Matthew 10:29

A land which the Lord thy God careth for: the eyes of the Lord thy God are always upon it, from the beginning of the year even unto the end of the year. - Deuteronomy 11:12

And in remembrance of my dear old granny.

I get hummingbirds in April as they go north and July as they return south. They will stay around in late summer as long as I keep the feeder up. A very tiny creature with the ability to fly great distances. I cannot believe he came about in any other way but by intelligent design.

 

[Mule Train]

I do not believe in intelligent design, for what I believe to be the truthful physical dynamic for mass and motion, is a perfect design. It all fits automatically in just certain ways.

I have worked with and studied science all my life and I believe that what modern science believes reality is, is way off. It's very hard to swallow what they propose.

I am referring to physical reality.(mass, gravity, etc) This is what controls all the area that we can detect, except for this planet. Physical reality maintains itself, another aspect of perfection.

There is an unique force on this planet. This force modifies and molds nature. It does not come from nature. If it did, we would see it out all over nature. It's not there.

Life is the only singularity that has ever been detected.

It's not natural.

 

[Ophiolite]

I do not believe in intelligent design, for what I believe to be the truthful physical dynamic for mass and motion, is a perfect design. It all fits automatically in just certain ways.

I have worked with and studied science all my life and I believe that what modern science believes reality is, is way off. It's very hard to swallow what they propose.

I am referring to physical reality.(mass, gravity, etc) This is what controls all the area that we can detect, except for this planet. Physical reality maintains itself, another aspect of perfection.

There is an unique force on this planet. This force modifies and molds nature. It does not come from nature. If it did, we would see it out all over nature. It's not there.

Life is the only singularity that has ever been detected.

It's not natural.

Right. That's interesting. You say you have studied science all your life, yet you have offered no evidence to support your unusual speculation. Do you have any?

I also note that this is your first post on the forum, so welcome.

 

[Mule Train]

Thank you for your welcome. Which speculation, life not being natural or the unifying dynamic?