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Teens Say Video Game Inspired Them in Deadly Highway Shooting

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EvolvEarth said:
While that may be an inspiration story for other parents with the time and money to steer their children in that direction, there are many parents that can't afford that venue. Should we blame their parenting skills?



You shouldn't assume so much. :confused:What money? I was single mom with two kids and I make 12,500 before taxes. We had no money. Everything we did was free and outside. I borrowed equipment or bought old and used at big sales where people unloaded their used skis and camping equipment and so on. I had no money for fun stuff. We barely made it through every winter. Time? I had one weekend every week just like everybody else. I got home at 5:30pm and we had until bedtime, like everybody else. It wasn't that difficult. What I didn't do was run around every night entertaining myself, that's why I had time.

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Nathan Poe said:
Precisely! We should be applauding hyperviolent games like GTA; they seem to be the only thing keeping your sociopathic tendancies in check. :cool:

Do the games create psychopaths, or are psychopaths attracted to the games?
Chicken or the egg...

Thanks, I added that first part to my AIM profile :)

As for the second part society creates both the chicken and the egg, by frowning upon violence on moral grounds, yet deriving money and power from it. Oh wait, thats the Bush administration on war. Silly me.
 
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Pathetic. The extent some people will go to avoid taking personal responsibility is astounding. I've always loved violent video games, horror movies and shock rock, and never gone around shooting people.Watch "Bowling for Columbine", that's my advice.
 
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Lillithspeak said:
You shouldn't assume so much. :confused:What money? I was single mom with two kids and I make 12,500 before taxes. We had no money. Everything we did was free and outside. I borrowed equipment or bought old and used at big sales where people unloaded their used skis and camping equipment and so on. I had no money for fun stuff. We barely made it through every winter. Time? I had one weekend every week just like everybody else. I got home at 5:30pm and we had until bedtime, like everybody else. It wasn't that difficult. What I didn't do was run around every night entertaining myself, that's why I had time.

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Seems reasonable, but then again, how many parents have what you had in yoru area? It also doesn't account for single parents that work two jobs to support their children. There's also the fact that what you did with your child may not also be accomplished with other children. Since kids are individuals, sometimes what might work for you might not work for everyone else.
 
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EvolvEarth said:
Seems reasonable, but then again, how many parents have what you had in yoru area? It also doesn't account for single parents that work two jobs to support their children. There's also the fact that what you did with your child may not also be accomplished with other children. Since kids are individuals, sometimes what might work for you might not work for everyone else.

The outdoors is still free to everyone, if you don't have a mountain to climb or a forest to hike in then you must have a desert, a canyon, a lakes sytem, rivers, creeks and ponds or swamps or oceans -(maybe a backyard) every part of the U.S. has something that can be used to re-direct kids energies. And, say that you are stuck in a bubble somewhere where there is no outdoors-then there are libraries, museums, art galleries, and so on where energy can be re-directed. All of which can be free, if not all the time, part of the time.How about teaching them to volunteer at an animal shelter, a food bank, or at clean up day?

Instead of taking my example as the only literal way to deal with kids, try some imagination for crying out loud. The whole point is you do deal with your child as an individual who needs your guidance. What works for one may well not work for another. Some do work 2 two jobs, and I had times where I did that too, but you know what my kids were with responsible people who could do the same things I did-get them outside and busy, or inside and busy.

People who don't want to parent have a million reasons why they "can't" do what I did, when it really boils down in most cases and read MOST cases to not wanting to put the intelligence, energy and effort into doing a good job of it.

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Lillithspeak said:
The outdoors is still free to everyone, if you don't have a mountain to climb or a forest to hike in then you must have a desert, a canyon, a lakes sytem, rivers, creeks and ponds or swamps or oceans -(maybe a backyard) every part of the U.S. has something that can be used to re-direct kids energies. And, say that you are stuck in a bubble somewhere where there is no outdoors-then there are libraries, museums, art galleries, and so on where energy can be re-directed. All of which can be free, if not all the time, part of the time.How about teaching them to volunteer at an animal shelter, a food bank, or at clean up day?

Instead of taking my example as the only literal way to deal with kids, try some imagination for crying out loud. The whole point is you do deal with your child as an individual who needs your guidance. What works for one may well not work for another. Some do work 2 two jobs, and I had times where I did that too, but you know what my kids were with responsible people who could do the same things I did-get them outside and busy, or inside and busy.

People who don't want to parent have a million reasons why they "can't" do what I did, when it really boils down in most cases and read MOST cases to not wanting to put the intelligence, energy and effort into doing a good job of it.

Lillith

I agree with most of what you said, though, but the last paragraph I don't agree with. I just think not all parents have those possibilities and may just have difficult kids. Some parents may not even have the ingenuity to actually come up with good ideas to please their kids when it comes to non-violent behavior. I'm just going by what I used to be, because I refused to do any outdoor activity most of my life, but I just recently, about two years ago, got heavily into reading books about science. I used to be anti-social, but then I changed. It wasn't really anything my parents did, it was more that my interests were changing naturally. My parents tried, but what more could they do? They couldn't force me to do those things because I did not want to do them at all. How do you deal with a kid like that?
 
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xtxArchxAngelxtx said:
I'd like to know what the rating on the video game was, and how old the kids were :)


well i didnt see a '3' in the op news article (prolly just missed it) but ill assume its gta3. (if it is gta that made them do this then i really would have to say these kids are nutters. gta 1 was a top down sprite game with circles for people i think. so long ago...)

anyway
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005O0I2/002-7853057-5824820?v=glance

the game is rated mature
so if these are kids, again skimmed the op, then either they bought it at a store that doesnt screen video game ratings, most of them, or their parents bought it for them, or they downloaded it

anyway we all know the M rating stands for marketing :p
 
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