"Teach" the controversy!

[selfinflikted]

Second of all, for those who think it is, then creationism does not belong in science class; it belongs in history class.

I'll make one up and we'll see where it goes.

Creationist Test:

1. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.
2. Explain the difference between "God" and "LORD God".
3. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ in the lab.
4. The triune Godhead is a violation of what scientific law?
5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
6. What day was Adam created on?
7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?
8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.
9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?
10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.

I wouldn't imagine that's what a test on I.D. in public schools would look like. Those are Biblical questions, and as I have already pointed out, I do not think the version of I.D. they are pushing for in public schools is religion-specific. I think it's supposed to be a general idea of I.D. that could appeal to most major religious brands. Which, imo, would be even worse for teaching and testing purposes.

"Nebulous creator did it."

A+

 

[AV1611VET]

I wouldn't imagine that's what a test on I.D. in public schools would look like.

Again, ID belongs in a class on Satanism, not the public school system.

Those are Biblical questions,

Really? what gave it away?

In your opinion -- (not mine, but yours) -- what should be used as a proper textbook?

and as I have already pointed out, I do not think the version of I.D. they are pushing for in public schools is religion-specific.

Yet you said every single answer is 'goddidit'.

I think it's supposed to be a general idea of I.D. that could appeal to most major religious brands.

Again, what textbook would you recommend? Satanic Verses? the Necronomicon? the Satanic Bible? the NIV? the Ecumenical Encyclopedia? Comparative Religion for Dummies?

Which, imo, would be even worse for teaching and testing purposes.

"Nebulous creator did it."

A+

I guess I have no idea what you want from this thread.

Won't be the first time though.

 

[selfinflikted]

Again, ID belongs in a class on Satanism, not the public school system.

Well, I don't think either belongs in a science classroom. So, I guess we sort of agree.

Really? what gave it away?

In your opinion -- (not mine, but yours) -- what should be used as a proper textbook?

I have absolutely no idea. That touches on what this thread is about. It's the reason I asked the question in the OP. I have no idea what a test would even look like, much less the textbook. Your guess is as good as mine.

Yet you said every single answer is 'goddidit'.

So, what's the problem with that? The god of the Bible's name is not "god." "God" can refer to any number of specific deities. "Nebulous creator did it" is effectively the same as "goddidit."

I guess I have no idea what you want from this thread.

Won't be the first time though.

Perhaps re-read the OP? I was wondering what a test on I.D. would look like.

 

[Strathos]

Gotta love how AV calls ID "Satanism" yet routinely quotes ID arguments and links to videos from ID promoters to support his points.

 

[poolerboy0077]

 

[AV1611VET]

Gotta love how AV calls ID "Satanism" yet routinely quotes ID arguments and links to videos from ID promoters to support his points.

I don't think ID has a monopoly on doctrine ... do you?

 

[Strathos]

I don't think ID has a monopoly on doctrine ... do you?

No, but you do tend to throw in your lot with anyone who criticizes evolution - even if you deem them "Satanic"...

Is evolution somehow worse than Satan to you?

 

[variant]

Let us suppose that I.D., otherwise known as "creationism," actually did make it into science class and was taught. What on earth would the tests look like, and would Every. Single. Answer. be "goddidit."?!?

I just thought about this seriously for a fleeting moment. It's hilarious on the one hand, but in all honesty, how would the class be taught?



ETA: The OP is in reference to public school education. I omitted this bit from the original OP, and this omission seems to have caused a bit of confusion. Sorry for the error, you guys.

The 'controversy' should be taught in college freshman year, where it has proven to be quite good at reducing the number of creationists by showing ID/creationism to be not even remotely scientific.

 

[Ada Lovelace]

The 'controversy' should be taught in college freshman year, where it has proven to be quite good at reducing the number of creationists by showing ID/creationism to be not even remotely scientific.

Except at Liberty University.....
How Liberty University Creates Creationists - The Daily Beast



~~ Sorry for reawakening a dormant thread. I discovered it when AV linked a post from here in a more recently created thread.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then someone's got a problem.

First of all, Intelligent Design is not creationism; it is Satan's cheap imitation of creationism.

That's ok; creationism is Satan's cheap imitation of history.

Second of all, for those who think it is, then creationism does not belong in science class; it belongs in history class.

Actually, given the subject matter, it belongs more in a literature class; of course, like the rest of mythology, there is a certain amount of crossover.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's ok; creationism is Satan's cheap imitation of history.

I love it when I can get an unbeliever to talk theology!

Actually, given the subject matter, it belongs more in a literature class; of course, like the rest of mythology, there is a certain amount of crossover.

Reminds me of the time you surprised me by telling me the three types of Hebrew poetry.

But then, sadly, you couldn't apply them to the discussion we were having.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I love it when I can get an unbeliever to talk theology!

You might learn something this time.

Reminds me of the time you surprised me by telling me the three types of Hebrew poetry.

But then, sadly, you couldn't apply them to the discussion we were having.

Then again, neither could you.

 

[essentialsaltes]

According to creation theorists, who created the earth?

A) Ptah
B) Viracocha
C) Satan
D) Marduk
E) All of the above

 

[selfinflikted]

According to creation theorists, who created the earth?

A) Ptah
B) Viracocha
C) Satan
D) Marduk
E) All of the above

Goddidit.