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We are commanded to love our enemies while he plans to incinerate his
Personally, I think all decisions are emotionally driven. We attach reasoning to them in order to justify our knee-jerk emotional reactions to decision-making.I don't think so. There's always a reason, and usually more than one for every choice, we make. Making a choice means choosing between alternative options so how can you do this without having a preference for the one you choose? Having a preference means that you have a good reason, at least in your eyes, for preferring it.
Again, this is all extremely abstract. Can you give me a concrete example from your own life to illustrate what you mean?
Personally, I think all decisions are emotionally driven. We attach reasoning to them in order to justify our knee-jerk emotional reactions to decision-making.
A really good sales person will give a prospect rational reasons to buy in order to help them finalize their emotional decision. The talented sales person knows they will need to justify their decision to themselves and others. Most people won't admit to a purchase on a whim. They usually provide a reason, be it all so weak.
I need that red Ferrari; how else will I get to work?
I used to work in advertising and marketing. The emotional hook was a primary selling device. The rationale was always secondary, but necessary. If you can set the emotional hook, you can usually "land the fish" with the needed reasoning. (features and benefits)I agree. By reasons I meant emotional reasons as well as intellectual ones.
If you have free will, spend one day without sinning.There's no use repeating myself but unless all this is made real with examples from real life it becomes a discussion about abstract ideas where we'll just be talking past each other because we won't know what the other person is saying or what they mean by words like "free-will".
Wow. Nice try.If you have free will, spend one day without sinning.
I used to work in advertising and marketing. The emotional hook was a primary selling device. The rationale was always secondary, but necessary. If you can set the emotional hook, you can usually "land the fish" with the needed reasoning. (features and benefits)
This also explains how I ended up with four Stratocaster guitars. My wife wants to know how many I really need. (one more?) I haven't collected ALL the colors yet.
If you have free will, spend one day without sinning.
This means your will is bound by sin. Free will is a lie.We're always going to sin, to fall short of God's standard, just like our bodies are always going to age but neither condition has anything to do with free will. Or if it has, could you explain how?
This means your will is bound by sin. Free will is a lie.
It depends on your motive. But all of our works are as filthy rags.Do you believe we always sin? How about when we give shelter to the homeless as our Lord commanded us to do - are we sinning then?
Again, this is philosophy. Does Calvanism mean anything on a day to day level to you?
It depends on your motive. But all of our works are as filthy rags.
Sure; the wood, hay and stubble. But what about the gold, silver and precious stones? God counts those as our works. Are those filthy rags?It depends on your motive. But all of our works are as filthy rags.
Sure; the wood, hay and stubble. But what about the gold, silver and precious stones? God counts those as our works. Are those filthy rags?
Luther and Calvin certainly realized that people could do things to help others. When they maintained that it was all sin, they meant that there were always enough mixed motives that no action could be pure in a way that would gain credit with God. There is a term "civil righteousness" that refers to things that are helpful to others.Do you believe we always sin? How about when we give shelter to the homeless as our Lord commanded us to do - are we sinning then?
Again, this is philosophy. Does Calvanism mean anything on a day to day level to you?
What if the Calvinists are right? Wouldn't this mean you hate God and worship idols instead?I agree. We are all created in the image of God, and one thing God has not given us is the capability to delete His image from ourselves. IOW it is simply impossible to be absolutely depraved as Calvanists would have it where everything we do is "filthy rags".
Not seeing how I'm doing that in my post.You make God a spectator basing all on the whims of sinners who control him.
You do this when you make God a spectator who God reacts to people instead of having them react to him.Not seeing how I'm doing that in my post.
See my previous response.You do this when you make God a spectator who God reacts to people instead of having them react to him.
Simply preferring it, no reason needed, is enough.I don't think so. There's always a reason, and usually more than one for every choice, we make. Making a choice means choosing between alternative options so how can you do this without having a preference for the one you choose? Having a preference means that you have a good reason, at least in your eyes, for preferring it.
Again, this is all extremely abstract. Can you give me a concrete example from your own life to illustrate what you mean?
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