Taking Questions on Genesis

[doubtingmerle]

Pray for me.

Sure.

Thank you for these creationist arguments we are about to devour. AMEN.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yes, not just good, but VERY GOOD - as YHWH chose Abraham to be the one man in all the earth who is called the "father of faith", and tested him with the purpose of showing everyone in heaven and on earth the truth of Abraham's faith and faithfulness and trust (in YHWH).

That's why YHWH says to completely trust and always rely on Him, no matter what. (nothing of man, in any case, including "personal morality" apart from Christ , is reliable , faithful and true)

That is good?!?

In my personal morality, setting out to kill one's son as a burnt sacrifice to God is wrong.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No. Abraham fully trusted YHWH, and in another moment would have thrust the sacrificial knife through his own son sacrificing him as directed by YHWH -----(as YHWH SACRIFICED HIS OWN SON JESUS)
As written, Abraham believed YHWH , and knew that if his son died, YHWH would raise him again from the dead, because of YHWH'S PROMISE, which YHWH could never break. (as also YHWH RAISED JESUS FROM THE GRAVE)

Was Abraham testing God, seeing how far He would go, but with no real intention of actually killing Isaac?

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Yes, even though YHWH already knew, this was for our(believers immersed in or seeking YHWH TODAY) benefit and for all who are chosen to see.

Was God testing Abraham, to see if he would actually go through with it?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

YHWH sets all limits. What would have happened? No worries, YHWH / Adam/ did better than any husbandry known to mankind , and would have continued, and will again, YHWH'S WAY (with or without animals, etc) ....
(hint: people and animals, living YHWH'S WAY as HE CREATED THEM, would have survived on earth perfect, better than anyone today knows, as the Planner, the Architect of all Living Beings, never makes a mistake nor any error in His Plan.)
This includes any / many/ different ways that everything , perfectly, is orchestrated by Him.....
Wonderfully so, rarely understood.

That's all very nice. Could have an answer to my questions now?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

That's all very nice. Could have an answer to my questions now?

Did you ever , even once, see a zoo where they had 40 elephants
in a space designed for 2 elephants ?
Or a horse stable run by someone with integrity and good practices, with 20 horses in a one stall designed for one horse ?

If not, why even think that the Perfect Creator would Create with any mistakes ? He is far , far, far most (perfectly) knowledgeable and wise beyond anything of men all together,
and knows all that is needed for every situation, with no exception ever, no mistakes, nothing out of place nor missing what is needed. -- perfect provision for all things as planned, before even creating anything.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Did you ever , even once, see a zoo where they had 40 elephants
in a space designed for 2 elephants ?
Or a horse stable run by someone with integrity and good practices, with 20 horses in a one stall designed for one horse ?

If not, why even think that the Perfect Creator would Create with any mistakes ? He is far , far, far most (perfectly) knowledgeable and wise beyond anything of men all together,
and knows all that is needed for every situation, with no exception ever, no mistakes, nothing out of place nor missing what is needed. -- perfect provision for all things as planned, before even creating anything.

I didn't ask for platitudes and triteness. May I please have an answer to my questions?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I didn't ask for platitudes and triteness. May I please have an answer to my questions?

You already have them.

What difference does it make to you anyway, if you can't do anything about it and if it doesn't affect you nor anyone who you know?

 

[doubtingmerle]

Did you ever , even once, see a zoo where they had 40 elephants
in a space designed for 2 elephants ?
Or a horse stable run by someone with integrity and good practices, with 20 horses in a one stall designed for one horse ?

No but I hear there was an ark that crowded, assuming it had two of every kind.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did Adam speak the first palindrome, "Madam I'm Adam"?

No.

He said, "Madam in Eden I'm Adam."

 

[doubtingmerle]

No. Abraham fully trusted YHWH, and in another moment would have thrust the sacrificial knife through his own son sacrificing him as directed by YHWH

That is what the story seems to say.

You don't have a problem with a man tieing up his son and raising a knife with the intention to stab him to death?

That doesn't sound moral to me.

 

[AV1611VET]

I didn't ask for platitudes and triteness. May I please have an answer to my questions?

I'll try.

Was there a limit to how many animals could exist before the fall?

I'm sure there was.

What was going to happen as the Earth filled up with more and more immortal beasts?

I would assume they would become more and more sterile.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sure.

Thank you for these creationist arguments we are about to devour. AMEN.

Genesis! Yum Yum!

Ezekiel 3:3 And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.

 

[Silmarien]

What was the serpent's mode of locomotion before it was damned to crawl about on its belly?

 

[AV1611VET]

No but I hear there was an ark that crowded, assuming it had two of every kind.

Unless the Ark was a kind of TARDIS booth, where its inside was bigger than its outside.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

That altar is either a TARDIS booth, or it's an awful big one!

 

[AV1611VET]

What was the serpent's mode of locomotion before it was damned to crawl about on its belly?

Tetra-ambulation.*

Walking on four legs.

Genesis 3:1a Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

* I made that word up.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

How does "The Shining One" locomote? (then and today)

 

[AV1611VET]

How does "The Shining One" locomote? (then and today)

As a roaring lion.

1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

 

[Strathos]

Okay, in this thread, I'll take any questions you may have about the events in Genesis, and try to answer them to the best of my ability.

This thread is open to all sorts of stuff, from creatio ex nihilo to the Fall, the Flood, the Dispensations, the Ark, kinds, what language Adam & Eve spoke, anything.

Pray for me.

Please point out where in Genesis it states that Adam and Even spoke English.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

As a roaring lion.

1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

tangent: is that "," after "lion" , one of those infamous commas that could change the meaning of the sentence ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Please point out where in Genesis it states that Adam and Even spoke English.

In every Bible I've owned except one in Spanish, and maybe one other I had in another language, they always speak in English. "It is written" , yep, all in English ....