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hahaha,, unbelievers may be buried in the lava before they're convinced, if ever.....
It never said He created them by wind. But since you believe in wind wonder power, how about a wind drying up the planet after the flood? That one the bible does say.
What natural means is available to create a universe from nothing with a word one day?
Creating them with the stuff inside is not manipulating them. The ratios had no meaning of age then.
Yes of course they are saying that the daughter ratios came from the parent material in the rock. So the composition of what is in the rock, they claim comes from natural means. Then they have some fantasy natural means that does a big bang eventually creating the earth and rocks as well. Natural all the way is what they are all about.
Look again, was there any biblical basis? But since you rally behind a naturalonlydunnitall it is you that made things up. No one knows there was only the natural at work.
Creation is in it. Your old ages are not.
It may seem that way to a newbie
He created and then also made nature that results in processes. The processes are as they seem, but when it seems in your head that those natural processes are all there is, then you end up in la la land.
Scripture is not any personal anything. It is not that believers are picking on you abrasively. Some of us simply don't countenance folly so well, especially for repeat offenders.
Discussion is meant to portray different sides of an issue. I do not have to 'persuade' people.
Creation, wherever mentioned is a lot more than physical. Maybe ban the use of the word here. Replace it with something more like 'in our little made up fantasies' or 'according to the model we manufactured by using only the natural and disallowing any supernatural' or 'the universe that we think came from a little hot speck that we used only the natural to model' or etc.
If you claim it involves more than the natural, provide this for us in detail? Until then if it talks about creation using only the natural it does not know what it is talking about.
Ugh...I didn't say it did.
I wouldn't presume to know.
Yes it is when it comes to different ratios of different parent/daughter elements.
I'm still not interested in your made up scenarios or your belittling of everyone who doesn't go along with them.
It shows.
Seemed that way
It did not say God created mountains naturally or the wind. There are four angels in charge of the winds you know. Is that natural weather control? If mountains and land resulted in God separating the water and land, that happened the day after He first spoke it into existence. Does speaking it into being and then altering a planet totally the next day seem 'natural' to you?
Well, list for us say, 4 natural things that will create an entire universe one day from a word? There is a reason you do not know, there is no such natural thing, obviously
There were no daughter or parents. They only became that when natural processes came to exist and that was after creation. You offer the idea that the reason a rock is the way it is, would be because of those processes working which produced the daughter material over great time. No. It was made instantly. Whenever God set up the forces of nature that started to affect those ratios was when some of the materials became parents or daughters. The only deception is thinking that all the material in the created rock was not there, but took untold long ages to get produced later
Likewise. I have God's word for it, and do not need natural only fantasies mislabelled as knowledge.
I will let that anemic little attempt at an insult pass
Whether Moses or shabbat said that God created in six days and rested on the 7th day , the word 'day' really refers to a passage of time or stage, and is not literal. God created the earth and life forms on stages. Each 'day' is not equal in time. I believe it definitely takes more time to create the hundreds of thousands of creatures on land -- from ants to worms, giraffes etc etc -- than to gather the land mass in one place. Though this is not stated in the Scriptures, but the Bible does not cover everything, i.e. It does not mention the 9 or 10 planets revolving around the sun.
Not so. According to Genesis, God created Adam as an adult, not a newly born baby. Immediately after his creation, Adam would have looked as if he were 20 or 30 years old. Also God created trees with there seeds already in them, so the newly-created trees had the appearance of maturity. There is no hint of deception, for God tells us in the bible that this is what He did.
But again, God specifically says in His word that He created sun, moon and stars to give light to the earth, not to wait billions of years before the earth received light from the more distant of them.
We are not told in the bible about annual rings, but we are told that God created trees with their seed already in them, so they were mature trees. But as God tells us this, how can it be deceptive?
The isotopes in rocks, etc are not mentioned in Scripture, but you seem to ignore things that are clearly mentioned, like Adam being created as an adult and trees being created mature, not as tiny seedlings.
Only you are saying the speech impediment.
