Taking questions on Embedded Age Creation

[AV1611VET]

So what's the difference between memories that indicate a past which never occurred and a physical body which indicates a past which never occurred?

Embedded age is maturity without history.

 

[Hammster]

So what's the difference between memories that indicate a past which never occurred and a physical body which indicates a past which never occurred?

Let me jump ahead a few steps and ask a question. Would you be more satisfied if the creationists said that there were, for example, no trees, but only seeds planted that would later grow to trees?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Embedded age is maturity without history.

So why did God embed a false history into his creation?

 

[Hammster]

So why did God embed a false history into his creation?

False by whose standards?

 

[AV1611VET]

So why did God embed a false history into his creation?

Again, embedded age is maturity without history.

There was no history embedded into His creation: false or otherwise.

 

[RickG]

False by whose standards?

I think what is being asked is why would God embed over 4 billion years of misleading geologic evidence in the earth? The standards would be the full body of scientific literature published in the peer review journals.

 

[RickG]

Again, embedded age is maturity without history.

There was no history embedded into His creation: false or otherwise.

Which makes no sense to me biblically or scientifically. Why would God create what he did in Genesis 1 and then leave 4.54 billion years of physical evidence that contradicts it.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think what is being asked is why would God embed over 4 billion years of misleading geologic evidence in the earth?

Do mature trees that have fruit on them count as "misleading"?

It appears that God created every thing, not only perfect as it respects its nature, but also in a state of maturity, so that every vegetable production appeared at once in full growth; and this was necessary that man, when he came into being, might find every thing ready for his use.

If not, what about mature geologic structures?

 

[AV1611VET]

Which makes no sense to me biblically or scientifically. Why would God create what he did in Genesis 1 and then leave 4.54 billion years of physical evidence that contradicts it.

I'm sure God had His reasons.

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

Perhaps it has something to do with the angels. I don't know.

 

[RickG]

Do mature trees that have fruit on them count as "misleading"?

If not, what about mature geologic structures?

Like I have said many times previously AV, I look at Genesis 1 as an allegory. That way I don't have to manufacture a creative interpretation. The earth is known to be much older than 6,000 years through many different lines of physical evidence. I do not believe God to be a deceiver which an embedded age would imply.

 

[Hammster]

I think what is being asked is why would God embed over 4 billion years of misleading geologic evidence in the earth? The standards would be the full body of scientific literature published in the peer review journals.

So man's standards. Gotcha.

 

[AV1611VET]

Like I have said many times previously AV, I look at Genesis 1 as an allegory. That way I don't have to manufacture a creative interpretation. The earth is known to be much older than 6,000 years through many different lines of physical evidence. I do not believe God to be a deceiver which an embedded age would imply.

That's certainly your prerogative, Rick; but please understand: an allegory is a creative interpretation as well.

You're doing the very thing you disdain.

 

[HitchSlap]

So man's standards. Gotcha.

Of course, who else's would it be?

 

[Hammster]

Which makes no sense to me biblically or scientifically. Why would God create what he did in Genesis 1 and then leave 4.54 billion years of physical evidence that contradicts it.

So your issue is that because God didn't explain why He did what He did, then the scientist (which means evolutionists) must be right. Gotcha.

 

[AV1611VET]

So man's standards. Gotcha.

Yes, indeed!

 

[Hammster]

Of course, who else's would it be?

There are man's standards, and God's standards.

 

[HitchSlap]

So your issue is that because God didn't explain why He did what He did, then the scientist (which means evolutionists) must be right. Gotcha.

If god ever did, I'm sure it would jibe with the evidence we already have.

 

[Jamin4422]

I do not believe God to be a deceiver which an embedded age would imply.

Actually your understanding of embedded age would imply this. Perhaps there is no problem with the theory of embedded age, perhaps the problem is with your understanding of the theory.

 

[Hammster]

Like I have said many times previously AV, I look at Genesis 1 as an allegory. That way I don't have to manufacture a creative interpretation. The earth is known to be much older than 6,000 years through many different lines of physical evidence. I do not believe God to be a deceiver which an embedded age would imply.

Why would embedded age imply that God is a deceiver?

 

[Hammster]

If god ever did, I'm sure it would jibe with the evidence we already have.

I'm sure it will. But as far as I know, it can be included on the vast list of things God has done without explaining them to us.