Taking questions of the Different state past (2)

[FoxyRoxy]

Ok... I think I've had about enough of this nonsense... Trying to destroy knowledge doesn't make your position any stronger. I mean, I do see the logic in the idea:

"all the science, evidence, and common sense are against me... so let's put forth the idea that all knowledge is wrong! Problem solved! Now they can't make fun of me when I say dumb stuff anymore! yay! My beliefs are now unquestionable!"

 

[Split Rock]

Ok... I think I've had about enough of this nonsense... Trying to destroy knowledge doesn't make your position any stronger. I mean, I do see the logic in the idea:

"all the science, evidence, and common sense are against me... so let's put forth the idea that all knowledge is wrong! Problem solved! Now they can't make fun of me when I say dumb stuff anymore! yay! My beliefs are now unquestionable!"

Congratulations! You have figured out dad... to a tee.

 

[Loudmouth]

Ok... I think I've had about enough of this nonsense... Trying to destroy knowledge doesn't make your position any stronger. I mean, I do see the logic in the idea:

"all the science, evidence, and common sense are against me... so let's put forth the idea that all knowledge is wrong! Problem solved! Now they can't make fun of me when I say dumb stuff anymore! yay! My beliefs are now unquestionable!"

Also known as nihilism.

 

[Kylie]

We understand. In your mind there is probably something looming large that people denied. Seek help.

Oh ha ha. You're so witty.

At least I am capable of recognising evidence when I see it.

 

[Kylie]

Nothing. I'm just mean...

I offer you a sacrifice of milk and cookies...

 

[dad]

The consilience between different isotope pairs and the presence or absence of specific nuclides are two areas where those prophecies failed, if you are insisting on a literal reading of Genesis.

You cannot claim something existed and vanished as support!! Neither can you claim that a pattern in many isotopes that has more of one material than another all formed in this state. You offer beliefs and godless philosophy.

The bible has consilience like nothing else does!

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[dad]

Trying to destroy knowledge doesn't make your position any stronger.

You have no knowledge of the forces and laws that will be in place in the future yet science 'predicts'!! Your knowledge is religion not knowledge.

No science is against the bible or the flood or creation, period. Not a sliver. Give your head a shake and try again woman.

 

[Kylie]

You cannot claim something existed and vanished as support!!

And yet you can claim that a DSP existed and then vanished? Oh, look, a double standard.

Neither can you claim that a pattern in many isotopes that has more of one material than another all formed in this state.

We can claim that radioactive decay is evidence for a SSP. I'd explain to you why it is evidence, but I've already done so, and you were incapable of understanding it. SO I'm not going to try again.

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[dad]

And yet you can claim that a DSP existed and then vanished? Oh, look, a double standard.

False. Science claims need support, and man cannot know what state God will have or did have on his own. Yet they claim one.

We can claim that radioactive decay is evidence for a SSP.

No, you sure cannot unless you prove it existed and existed as is in the far past. You are hooped.

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[Kylie]

False. Science claims need support, and man cannot know what state God will have or did have on his own. Yet they claim one.

Yes, we can know what the state was in the past. I have explained to you how it works and you repeatedly show that you are either unwilling or unable to comprehend.

No, you sure cannot unless you prove it existed and existed as is in the far past. You are hooped.

Again, I have shown you and you just refuse to comprehend.

Anyone or any thing that attacks creation is antChrist. Christ is the creator. Science attacks creation and it is an antiChrist spirit that is behind this. I did not call any one person AntiChrist, I exposed the spirit.

So instead of insulting one person, you are insulting many.

And there are a huge number of Christians who have absolutely no problem with science and who certainly DON'T agree with your "Science attacks creation and it is an antiChrist" point of view.

 

[FoxyRoxy]

Question: why are people still engaging an obvious troll?

 

[dad]

Question: why are people still engaging an obvious troll?

Quit whining if you have nothing to say woman.

 

[dad]

Yes, we can know what the state was in the past.

No, you assume a state then model according, in an anti creation way.

There are 2 spirits to chose from, the AntiChrist one which attacks creation and the things Scripture says, or the one that includes Jesus.

Again, I have shown you and you just refuse to comprehend.

Not true at all, you have preached vile nonsense and beliefs and think we all need to cater to your religion.

So instead of insulting one person, you are insulting many.

The AntiChrist spirit is in the world and has been a long time. It is against creation and the Creator who is Jesus. That's what it's all about. Nothing else.

And there are a huge number of Christians who have absolutely no problem with science and who certainly DON'T agree with your "Science attacks creation and it is an antiChrist" point of view.

Not one I suggest. It is plainly stated in the bible that Jesus created the world. The only choice is belief or unbelief.

 

[Loudmouth]

You cannot claim something existed and vanished as support!!

I can claim that the observed facts are consistent with a same state past. Therefore, those observations are evidence of a same state past.

Neither can you claim that a pattern in many isotopes that has more of one material than another all formed in this state.

I can and have shown that they are consistent with a same state past. You have done nothing to refute this argument.

The bible has consilience like nothing else does!

As this thread has shown, you can't explain the evidence. A same state past can.

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[PsychoSarah]

Question: why are people still engaging an obvious troll?

He isn't a troll actually (referring to dad). He 100% honestly thinks as he says.

 

[Kylie]

No, you assume a state then model according, in an anti creation way.

There are 2 spirits to chose from, the AntiChrist one which attacks creation and the things Scripture says, or the one that includes Jesus.

No, you assume a state then model according, in an anti realityway.

There are 2 models to chose from, the Anti evidence one which attacks reality and the things science says, or the one that includes evidence.

Not true at all, you have preached vile nonsense and beliefs and think we all need to cater to your religion.

Yeah, right. You insult me, calling me a preacher of vile nonsense, in order to justify your position that I'm wrong.

Care to debate with some manners and without the insults?

The AntiChrist spirit is in the world and has been a long time. It is against creation and the Creator who is Jesus. That's what it's all about. Nothing else.

So you're main problem with science is that you disagree with it.

Yeah, you need to learn that things aren't wrong just because you disagree with them...

Not one I suggest.

Are you saying that any Christian who accepts and ancient world, same state past and evolution isn't a real Christian? Oh no! Isn't that against the rules?

It is plainly stated in the bible that Jesus created the world. The only choice is belief or unbelief.

I'll side with the evidence from reality, thank you.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Quit whining if you have nothing to say woman.

Sounds like you're single.

 

[dad]

I can claim that the observed facts are consistent with a same state past. Therefore, those observations are evidence of a same state past.

I can claim you are full of hot air. To those who disfigure evidence with their beliefs, of course everything will look a certain way.

I can and have shown that they are consistent with a same state past. You have done nothing to refute this argument.

You have shown an inability to reason and be objective or honest enough to admit you have molested the evidence six ways from Sunday with your religion. You beg us to accept that this present state and it's workings and realities represent the future and past. You plead for us to accept that daughter materials were all made by this state rather than created with NO evidence at all. You proclaim missing stuff thatr you cannot prove was ever here and insist the invisible missing stuff is evidence for your beliefs!! Etc. Pathetic.

Still not too late Loudmouth, come on over to the enlightened side God is on.

As this thread has shown, you can't explain the evidence. A same state past can.

Delusional blather. Creation needs no present state explanation! Get over it.

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[dad]

Sounds like you're single.

Using the word woman means all that? You thought this was a dating site??

 

[CabVet]

To those who disfigure evidence with their beliefs, of course everything will look a certain way.