Sy Rogers

[NeTrips]

Anyone ever had the chance to listen to this man's message? Awesome. Extremely enlightening and relevant. I watched a dvd of a message he gave a year or so ago in FL. He talked about his youth and his journey into homosexuality and his journey out. He talked of what helped him, what things hurt him and how the church can minister better in specific ways.

If you get a chance to ever hear his message, I highly advise it. Many of his messages are available online.

 

[selfinflikted]

Edit: Meh.

 

[yasic]

Anyone ever had the chance to listen to this man's message? Awesome. Extremely enlightening and relevant. I watched a dvd of a message he gave a year or so ago in FL. He talked about his youth and his journey into homosexuality and his journey out. He talked of what helped him, what things hurt him and how the church can minister better in specific ways.

If you get a chance to ever hear his message, I highly advise it. Many of his messages are available online.

Tell us something about him that would have him deemed worthy of our time (I have heard of plenty of people claiming to be ex-gay, your gonna have to do much better than that)

Or give us a short you-tube clip so we can judge ourselves, or something along this line.

 

[TeddyKGB]

Another homosexuality thread started by a Christian conservative.

And the beat goes on.

 

[NeTrips]

Tell us something about him that would have him deemed worthy of our time (I have heard of plenty of people claiming to be ex-gay, your gonna have to do much better than that)

Or give us a short you-tube clip so we can judge ourselves, or something along this line.

There are several you-tube links if you google on his name but I am hesistant to post links to things I have not viewed.

Sy was on the john hopkins sex change list and living as a women for over a year and a half when John Hopkins stopped their program. He has since left that all behind and is married for 20+ years now. Here's his bio from his website:

Regarded as a gifted international communicator, award-winning talk show host, recording artist and pastor, Sy has served for over two decades in ministry as a pastoral care specialist regarding sexuality and related concerns.

His seminars and speaking events are conducted trans-denominationally on 6 continents, for a wide variety of audiences including leadership conferences, counseling training, youth festivals, and men's events such as Promise Keepers.

His insights and dramatic life story have been featured in numerous international media interviews & articles (such as Donohue, 700 Club, Good Morning Australia, The Phillip Adams Show), as well as being featured in several books written by authors such as Dr. James Kennedy (Thomas Nelson Publ), Thomas Trask (Zondervon Publ) and Philip Baker (W&P Publ).
In 1996, Christianity Today Magazine selected Sy as one of ‘Fifty Up & Coming Evangelical Leaders Under 40’. In 2004 Sy became an adjunct professor at King’s College, New York City, and is a frequent speaker in major Christian Universities & Colleges

Married since 1982, Sy and his family have resided in Asia for 7 years where he was one of 25 pastors with the dynamic Anglican 'Church of Our Saviour' in Singapore, and in the South Pacific for almost 4 years, where his ministry is part of Youth for Christ New Zealand.

“I’ve had people say to me, ‘You’re the LAST person I’d ever pick as a representative of sexual redemption!’ I can only agree and say ‘I know—and that’s probably exactly why God would deliberately pick someone like me…after all, it is God who first originated the idea of not judging a book by it’s cover…of picking ‘the reject’, ‘the weak one’, the ‘least likely to succeed’.”
“Oswald Chambers describes my situation well when he said: “We are still just a bunch of beggers…the difference is, we now go to God for our bread”.

“Christians are often ashamed to admit what everyone knows: Being a Christian does not make one immune to sexual passions. We WILL struggle with sexuality...."

http://www.syrogers.com/media/press.php

Sy's messages do touch on homosexuality, but that is not the focus. God is.

 

[uberd00b]

Poor guy, it must be awful to hate the way you were made.

 

[NeTrips]

isn't that why plastic surgeons have so much business?

 

[selfinflikted]

isn't that why plastic surgeons have so much business?

Yep. And I suspect that if you'd been born with say, a cleft pallet you'd be thankful for the plastic surgery, amirite?

 

[uberd00b]

isn't that why plastic surgeons have so much business?

Yeah, preying on peoples insecurities. Symptom of our shallow society I think. Poor people.

 

[WatersMoon110]

I don't think I can just do links to YouTube videos because it will embed them, but I found two (poor quality) videos of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTddtSJ68w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpW-P96HLSQ

Is it just me, or are all "Ex-Gays" really effeminate-looking and acting men with lisps? There are plenty of large, burly gay men out there, why aren't any of them ex-gay? Are there only certain types of people who are drawn to attempt to change their sexuality through Fundamentalist Christianity? Or is it that less "gay acting" men don't get pressure through their Fundamentalist Christian community to change who they are because no one bothers to question them?

 

[selfinflikted]

I don't think I can just do links to YouTube videos because it will embed them, but I found two (poor quality) videos of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTddtSJ68w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpW-P96HLSQ

Oh girlfriend STOP IT! These made me laugh until I cried. Then, I died a little inside. BWAHAHAHAHA

 

[NeTrips]

If you lived in Germany and spoke German then later moved to the states and learned to speak English, you may learn to speak it very well, but you'd most likely have a German accent forever. Watching the video really puts Sy's quote below in the proper perspective.

“I’ve had people say to me, ‘You’re the LAST person I’d ever pick as a representative of sexual redemption!’ I can only agree and say ‘I know—and that’s probably exactly why God would deliberately pick someone like me…after all, it is God who first originated the idea of not judging a book by it’s cover…of picking ‘the reject’, ‘the weak one’, the ‘least likely to succeed’.”

 

[elcapitan]

I don't think I can just do links to YouTube videos because it will embed them, but I found two (poor quality) videos of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTddtSJ68w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpW-P96HLSQ

Is it just me, or are all "Ex-Gays" really effeminate-looking and acting men with lisps? There are plenty of large, burly gay men out there, why aren't any of them ex-gay? Are there only certain types of people who are drawn to attempt to change their sexuality through Fundamentalist Christianity? Or is it that less "gay acting" men don't get pressure through their Fundamentalist Christian community to change who they are because no one bothers to question them?

Wow.
"Ex-Gay"? Who does he think he's fooling?

 

[BigBadWlf]

I don't think I can just do links to YouTube videos because it will embed them, but I found two (poor quality) videos of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTddtSJ68w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpW-P96HLSQ

Is it just me, or are all "Ex-Gays" really effeminate-looking and acting men with lisps? There are plenty of large, burly gay men out there, why aren't any of them ex-gay? Are there only certain types of people who are drawn to attempt to change their sexuality through Fundamentalist Christianity? Or is it that less "gay acting" men don't get pressure through their Fundamentalist Christian community to change who they are because no one bothers to question them?

Self confidence?

While I don’t know…I suspect it has to do with the amount of bullying, lying, as well as the verbal, mental physical and emotional abuse that is the cornerstone of ex-gay therapies. Big burly gay men are not likely to put up with a bigot calling them names and trying to hit them.

 

[Beanieboy]

Oh girlfriend STOP IT! These made me laugh until I cried. Then, I died a little inside. BWAHAHAHAHA

Hahahahahahahaha

There is a phrase that we use from a SNL skit for Homocil (for parents who are having trouble coping with their obviously gay sons.)

"Who wants creme broulee?"

Please, Mister Sister, who are you kidding?

 

[mhager]

If you lived in Germany and spoke German then later moved to the states and learned to speak English, you may learn to speak it very well, but you'd most likely have a German accent forever. Watching the video really puts Sy's quote below in the proper perspective.

You're responding to what seemed to me a less then serious post with the idea that there is a gay accent?

Amazing. Simply amazing.

 

[NeTrips]

You're responding to what seemed to me a less then serious post with the idea that there is a gay accent?

Amazing. Simply amazing.

hello mhager. Hope your day is going well. I was refering to Sy's effeminate inflections and mannerisms. Read his story in which he includes an explanation. Take care.