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Ok, before hand, take a slightly light hearted approach to this thread. I don't mean disregard it for what's in it, just don't approach it with a serious, end-of-the-world attitude.



I'll be honest here, I really, really enjoy swearing. Not as insulting someone, or being derogatory or mean, but just using the words.

They're just . . . Expressive. Saying a curse word makes people realize that it's not just "wow!" but, "WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I like writing. I like talking. I'm bad with speaking, but I like doing it. Words are just ways to communicate things more effectively for me. It's not just "ouch," but "OH MY THAT HURT A LOT!!!!"

This kind of stems from back in the days of elementary and middle school. I was always taught that words only have the power that you give them, this because of mean, cruel spirited kids who really had no regard for anyone's feelings . . . So, this has kind of become how I feel about words. I still swear at someone when I'm angry, which is something I need to work on, but it's the every day speech part of swearing that's so dastardly fun. I'm not just going to the store, I'm going to the STORE!

I'm sure that if everyone felt the same way that I do these words word just become a normal part of the english language. However, many take offense at them . . . And I'm thinking that this is where the wrong comes in. God will know when I am putting bad thoughts behind my words, but it still doesn't change the fact that quite a few people will undoubtedly take offense at how I say things. Remember, I'm not just saying things, I am EXPRESSING myself.

So, ah, I'm sure I can find better words to express myself . . . Or methods for that matter. But, is saying a word like "Blast!" just as bad as using any other more, ah, offensive word?

So, ah, I'm not sure what to do here . . . Other than realize that my swearing is wrong, no matter how I look at it . . . And pray about it? I think you may see that I have a light hearted attitude when it comes to language . . . I also don't tend to really think before I speak . . . Which is usually why writing is a far better way for me to talk to people. They won't wind up wanting to KILL me at the end of it.

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I use to curse a great deal with the same point you made. and I find a struggle with cursing still. Although, I do not do it as much as I used to. I have learned that cursing is usually done with regard to emotion and disregard to thought. It is very easy to throw an F word in as an adjective or the S word as a proclamation. But are they truyl necessary to make the statements we need to make?

Psalm 19:14 - Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
Be acceptable in Your sight,
O LORD, my strength and my Redeemer.

Matthew 5:37 - But let your "Yes' be "Yes,' and your "No,' "No.' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

Colosians 3:8-10 - But now you yourselves are to put off...filthy language out of your mouth... since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him.

Jesus taught in the Bible that when a man curses or uses profanity it is a sign of evil that was in that man's heart. If swearing and cursing have been a problem in your life ask the Lord to forgive you and deliver you so that your words may be good and loving words full of grace and truth. He will help you overcome this problem through His power.

I understand that you may not have wanted this to be very serious....but here's how serious it is:

Matthew 12:34-36 -
Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.

Test yourself to see if you are in the faith to put your desire to please God above your desire to curse:

Would you consider yourself to be a good person? Then read on to find out if you really are good. This is a test of self-
examination to see if you have upheld goodness by the only true standard as given by God – The Ten Commandments of
Exodus 20 found in the Old Testament of the Bible.
Have you ever told a lie? What does that make you?
The Ninth of the Ten Commandments is "You shall not lie." Telling even just one lie, even a little, white fib, according to
God's standards, makes you a "liar."
Revelation 21:8 says, "…all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone…”
Have you ever stolen anything….no matter how small or how long ago? What does that make you?
The Eighth of the Ten Commandments is "You shall not steal." The value is irrelevant. Taking something that doesn’t
belong to you makes you a “thief.”
In 1 Corinthians 6:10, God says, ”[Neither] thieves… nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.”
Have you ever committed adultery? Before you answer to this one, read on.
The Seventh of the Ten Commandments is "You shall not commit adultery." One definition of adultery means marital
infidelity. Another states: Lewdness or unchastity of thought as well as act. And another describes it as: Faithlessness in
religion.
In Mathew 5:27-28, Jesus says "You have heard that it was said to those of old, you shall not commit adultery.' But I
say to you that whoever looks [with]…lust…has already committed adultery…in his [or her] heart.”
Have you ever murdered anyone? Again, read further before you give your final answer.
The Sixth of the Ten Commandments is “You shall not kill." To kill is to murder. Murder is defined as willfully putting an
end to life. Another definition means to mutilate or mangle.
In Matthew 5:21-22, Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not kill; and whoever
kills shall be liable to judgment.' But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother [has murdered and]
shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother [has murdered and] shall be liable to the council, and
whoever says, 'You fool!' [has murdered and] shall be liable to the hell of fire.”
Have you ever blasphemed? Have you ever used any of the names of the one who gave you precious life in a manner that
was anything but respectful or appreciative?
The Third of the Ten Commandments is "You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain." If you've ever used the name
"God," "Jesus," or "Christ" as a curse word, what you've done is commit "blasphemy," and according to God's standards,
you are a "blasphemer."
In Luke 12:10, Jesus says, “…he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him.”
Do you love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength? Do you let anything in life interfere with your worship of
God?
The First AND MOST IMPORTANT of the Ten Commandments is Exodus 20:3: "You shall have no other gods before
me." That means that we should love God with all of our heart, mind, soul and strength. Even our love for family and
friends should seem like pure hatred in comparison. And to put other things in life above God is a horrible sin.
In Psalm 14:2-3 The Bible tells us that no one has kept this commandment – “The LORD has looked down from
heaven upon the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, who seek after God. They have all turned aside,
together they have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.” Therefore, even if we obey all of
the nine other commandments, there is no one who is not guilty of this commandment.
Your deeds will NOT guarantee salvation:
In Isaiah 64:6, the Bible says, “For all of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are
like a filthy garment; and all of us wither like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.” Therefore, no
matter what good you do in this world, you WILL NOT get into Heaven. Forget what good deeds you have done, as
they don’t matter in front of a judge. Think about it. If a mass murderer were found guilty in a court of law, but
pleaded for the judge to let him go free because he gave to charity and volunteered at a soup kitchen, the judge would
pretty much laugh in his face and send him up the river anyway.
From the above, we have only covered six of the Ten Commandments and there is no way you could have answered no to
all of them. It is pretty certain that you have pleaded guilty to all six and would have to plead guilty to the rest as well.
Therefore, by those standards, are you innocent or guilty? Would you go to Heaven or Hell? Do you feel like you are in
trouble? Does this have you thinking and concerned about your eternal fate?
And while it may seem that God's goodness will cause Him to overlook your sins in forgiveness, the opposite is actually
true. The very thing you are counting on to save you on the Day of Judgment -- namely God's goodness -- is going to be the
very thing that will see to it that justice is done. Because God is so good He will make sure that every murderer, rapist and
thief receives justice... but He won't stop there. He will also make sure every liar, blasphemer, and adulterer is punished.
While this is something that is extremely tragic and far from God's ultimate desire for any person, the Bible is clear that the
place of punishment for those who do not turn from their sins is Hell. The Bible refers to the fate of the unsaved (HELL)
with such fearful words as the following:
* “Shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2)
* “Everlasting punishment” (Matthew 25:46)
* “Weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 24:51)
* “Fire unquenchable” (Luke 3:17)
* “Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish” (Romans 2:8,9)
* “Everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord” (2 Thessalonians 1:9)
* “Eternal fire...the blackness of darkness for ever” (Jude 7,13)
* “He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone...the smoke of their torment ascended up for ever and ever: and they
have no rest day or night." (Revelation 14:10,11)
Does the possibility of going to hell concern you? It should!
Do you know what God did for you so that you wouldn't have to be punished for your sins and spend
eternity in Hell?
God does have a wonderful plan for your life. But because you are a sinful person and separated from God, you CANNOT
know God’s love and plan for your life until you accept Jesus Christ as God's ONLY provision for your sin. Through
BELIEVING in Jesus, and individually RECEIVING Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and Lord; then you can
BECOME a child of God and know and experience His love and plan for you life.
In John 14:6, Jesus said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me."
God loves you so much that He sent His son for you so that He would pay the price for your sins and be punished in your
place. All you have to do is confess and forsake your sins and Trust in Jesus with Faith as your personal Lord and Savior.
John 3:16-17 says, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the
world might be saved through Him.”
The life, suffering, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ are told in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John in the
New Testament of the Bible. Jesus was accurately prophesied in verses of the Old Testament, written from c. 1500-400B.C.!
If concern over your eternal fate is weighing heavy on your heart, it is now time to ask God to forgive you and accept Jesus
into your heart. You can pray something like this –
"Dear God, I repent of all my sins, I have (name your sins) against you. I now and forever put my trust in Jesus
Christ as Lord (to say Jesus is your Lord means you are now making Jesus the master over your life) and Savior.
Forgive me and grant me your gift of everlasting life. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen." (God knows your heart
better than you, so please be honest with Him in praying)

SK
 
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Icer757 said:
They're just . . . Expressive. Saying a curse word makes people realize that it's not just "wow!" but, "WOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I like writing. I like talking. I'm bad with speaking, but I like doing it. Words are just ways to communicate things more effectively for me. It's not just "ouch," but "OH MY THAT HURT A LOT!!!!"
I've noticed that people who don't care about swearing use them more and more, so much that just about every other word is a swear word. It really does take over your language and make you look less respectable.

Icer757 said:
I'm sure that if everyone felt the same way that I do these words word just become a normal part of the english language.
Wouldn't they lose their appeal then?

Icer757 said:
However, many take offense at them . . . And I'm thinking that this is where the wrong comes in. God will know when I am putting bad thoughts behind my words, but it still doesn't change the fact that quite a few people will undoubtedly take offense at how I say things. Remember, I'm not just saying things, I am EXPRESSING myself.

So, ah, I'm sure I can find better words to express myself . . . Or methods for that matter. But, is saying a word like "Blast!" just as bad as using any other more, ah, offensive word?

So, ah, I'm not sure what to do here . . . Other than realize that my swearing is wrong, no matter how I look at it . . . And pray about it? I think you may see that I have a light hearted attitude when it comes to language . . . I also don't tend to really think before I speak . . . Which is usually why writing is a far better way for me to talk to people. They won't wind up wanting to KILL me at the end of it.
That's the only reason why I think the Bible tells us to avoid foul language. It doesn't spell out what words to not use. In a nutshell, it is saying, "you know what bad language is. Don't use it." Now it bothers me a bit like it doubtless bothers you that people make the word bad, it wasn't bad in and of itself. But that doesn't matter much, it is our responsibility to "encourage one another and build each other up" as in 1 Thess 5:11. Also, to "make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification" - not to destroy the work of God for the sake of language (Romans 14:19-20a). Furthermore, read James 3:2-11 -

"2We all stumble in many ways. If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check.

3When we put bits into the mouths of horses to make them obey us, we can turn the whole animal. 4Or take ships as an example. Although they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are steered by a very small rudder wherever the pilot wants to go. 5Likewise the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. 6The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.

7All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, 8but no man can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. 10Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. 11Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water. "

From that, we can tell:

- our language indicates how close we as Christians are to God, or how far from Him we are (v. 2)
- our language can control us (v.3-8). This is also because "out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks." (Matthew 12:34)
- we are to love and spiritually nourish people with our language (v.9-10)
- when we don't do that, we can't be honoring God (v. 11-12)
 
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I suggest that you work on expanding your vocabulary. Swearing is easy, not much thought needed. There are ways to say WWWoooooowwwww without offending others and at the same time you'll look smarter than if you can only come up with a swear word.


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I used to cuss quite abit. When I was younger (early 20's), I was married, out of the house, and on my own. So yeah, it was fun because I didn't have mom telling me not to do it. Through that time, make walk with God was nearly zilch because I had put God on the back burner. I put myself before Him. Within the past 10yrs. (especially after having my first son), my walk with God has grown stronger, and have not felt the need for that language. I knew God was working on me to "clean" up my act. The time I take most offense of it is when I have my children out in public and you can hear people cussing at the top of their lungs without any self-control that there are other people around. That's when it bothers me the most. My oldest son will say "mom, don't they know that's a bad word".
 
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I know just how serious it is . . . I just don't respond well to doom-and-gloom lectures on why something is wrong. I get bored, and I really don't want to listen to someone who's just trying to instill me with fear rather than explain to me why it's wrong.

It seems to me that Jesus speaks of filth coming from the mouth, not necessarily words themselves, but intent. If I am being lewd or cruel, then it is filth coming from my mouth. But if the words have no ill meaning behind them, then the filth is only given to them by other people.

Take "polka dots" for example. Nothing inherently wrong with the word polka dots. I can say, "Look at this neat polka dot tent" and, aside from having a terrible sense of taste, nothing is wrong. But, if I say, "You are SUCH a POLKA DOT!" with malice behind it, the word becomes filthy.

Among friends, such words only become part of my speech pattern. I don't go out to the grocery store and say, "HEY, CHECK OUT THIS (whatever) CEREAL! AIN'T IT JUST THE (whatever)?" That's just plain . . . Stupid.

The only reason that makes sense to me not to swear is the consideration of other people. Which is definitely a good enough reason for me in this matter.

Mark, it is in no way a matter of having a limited vocabulary. I could say, "Hooeee miraculous powers unite us all brilliantly in peace and harmony for all time I am so HAPPY!" I have, actually, said something along those lines before. The point of using such words is to communicate my energy regarding a matter in a quick and efficient manner. The humor effect also comes into play too . . . But, ah, that doesn't really count. Intelligence should never be based on how someone speaks, or how they act. Basing it off that is just a judgment. I don't care if others think I'm smart or what, I just care that what I mean and feel is being properly communicated.

Bottom line, it's wrong and I need to work on it. I guess I should really try to slow down when I'm talking, and think over what I'm going to say.

Gigantic sprinklers.

Thank a bunch and God bless,

- Matt
 
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when i started at my school i was afraid to swear because i knew it was bad but nearly everyone in the school cussed at every chance they got. they made silly comments at me because i didnt. im sad to say that i picked up a lot of the language and swearing comes easy but i really hate doing it. it is bad, it sounds awful and you degrade yourself by doing it. i hope i can stop soon because i really hate doing it.
 
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Well, I swore like a sailor for most of my adult life. Jesus said, It's not what goes into a mans mouth that defiles him, but what comes out. What we say comes from the heart. I'm working on my heart and amazingly my speach is much improved. However it's still far from perfect.
 
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I curse & swear when I feel to do it, but only about situations and myself, not about other people. And I give a (insert favourite curse here) if the bible says that I shouldn't do it. (If that makes me a sinner, then so be it - there are limits, set by (my own) reason, on how much I let the content of an old book control my thoughts.) No one takes offense because I never do it in personal conversations and not about 3rd parties/people. But I did when I was a child.

That said, I found something interesting here:
ItsGr82BSaved said:
This is a test of self-examination to see if you have upheld goodness by the only true standard as given by God – The Ten Commandments of Exodus 20 found in the Old Testament of the Bible.
Have you ever told a lie? What does that make you?
The Ninth of the Ten Commandments is "You shall not lie." Telling even just one lie, even a little, white fib, according to God's standards, makes you a "liar."
Everybody is a liar. To be a human makes it necessary to be a liar. E.g. telling a kid about santa claus who brings presents at chrismas is a lie. Would you claim that you are not a liar? Then you would be a liar. It is not possible to fulfill this commandment all the time. Kids know about lying even before they are old enough to be told about the 10 commandments.

ItsGr82BSaved said:
...
Have you ever committed adultery? Before you answer to this one, read on.
The Seventh of the Ten Commandments is "You shall not commit adultery." One definition of adultery means marital infidelity. Another states: Lewdness or unchastity of thought as well as act. And another describes it as: Faithlessness in religion.
In Mathew 5:27-28, Jesus says "You have heard that it was said to those of old, you shall not commit adultery.' But I
say to you that whoever looks [with]…lust…has already committed adultery…in his [or her] heart.”
I for one have a lot of faith in the living God, but very little in religion. I trust in His judgement about that.

ItsGr82BSaved said:
Have you ever murdered anyone? Again, read further before you give your final answer.
The Sixth of the Ten Commandments is “You shall not kill." To kill is to murder. Murder is defined as willfully putting an end to life. Another definition means to mutilate or mangle.
In Matthew 5:21-22, Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall not kill; and whoever kills shall be liable to judgment.' But I say to you that every one who is angry with his brother [has murdered and] shall be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother [has murdered and] shall be liable to the council, and whoever says, 'You fool!' [has murdered and] shall be liable to the hell of fire.”
Putting insults at the same level as murder makes nearly everybody (incuding me) a murderer. Actually, this commandment was the one why I came to this forum and why I found this thread. According to the bible, God himself helped the isrealites to kill, I mean, not insult but really murder human beings! If Moses is not a liar in that particular speech (Moses 5, 7/2) then God even commanded to kill.


ItsGr82BSaved said:
...
Therefore, by those standards, are you innocent or guilty? Would you go to Heaven or Hell? Do you feel like you are in trouble? Does this have you thinking and concerned about your eternal fate?
And while it may seem that God's goodness will cause Him to overlook your sins in forgiveness, the opposite is actually true. The very thing you are counting on to save you on the Day of Judgment -- namely God's goodness -- is going to be the very thing that will see to it that justice is done. Because God is so good He will make sure that every murderer, rapist and thief receives justice... but He won't stop there. He will also make sure every liar, blasphemer, and adulterer is punished.
If all this is correct - then God has no right to judge me. By the standards given above, I am a murderer, but I am not a mass murderer. I have not created a tsunami that killed several millions of people, including innocent children and lots of animals. When I come to God for my judgement, I will stand upright. Yes, I am a sinner, I admid it. But my sins did hardly cause any harm compared with the sorrow caused by God's deeds. At least, I try not to sin, to the best of my abilities. Sometimes I fail. I'm not perfect.

ItsGr82BSaved said:
While this is something that is extremely tragic and far from God's ultimate desire for any person, the Bible is clear that the
place of punishment for those who do not turn from their sins is Hell. The Bible refers to the fate of the unsaved (HELL) with such fearful words as the following:
* “Shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2)
* “Everlasting punishment” (Matthew 25:46)
* “Weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 24:51)
* “Fire unquenchable” (Luke 3:17)
* “Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish” (Romans 2:8,9)
* “Everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord” (2 Thessalonians 1:9)
* “Eternal fire...the blackness of darkness for ever” (Jude 7,13)
* “He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone...the smoke of their torment ascended up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day or night." (Revelation 14:10,11)
Does the possibility of going to hell concern you? It should!
Yes, the possibility concerns me. I can only hope for justice.

ItsGr82BSaved said:
Do you know what God did for you so that you wouldn't have to be punished for your sins and spend eternity in Hell?
God does have a wonderful plan for your life. But because you are a sinful person and separated from God, you CANNOT know God’s love and plan for your life until you accept Jesus Christ as God's ONLY provision for your sin. Through BELIEVING in Jesus, and individually RECEIVING Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and Lord; then you can BECOME a child of God and know and experience His love and plan for you life.
In John 14:6, Jesus said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me."
God loves you so much that He sent His son for you so that He would pay the price for your sins and be punished in your place. All you have to do is confess and forsake your sins and Trust in Jesus with Faith as your personal Lord and Savior.
John 3:16-17 says, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.”
The life, suffering, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ are told in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John in the New Testament of the Bible. Jesus was accurately prophesied in verses of the Old Testament, written from c. 1500-400B.C.!
If concern over your eternal fate is weighing heavy on your heart, it is now time to ask God to forgive you and accept Jesus into your heart. You can pray something like this –
"Dear God, I repent of all my sins, I have (name your sins) against you. I now and forever put my trust in Jesus Christ as Lord (to say Jesus is your Lord means you are now making Jesus the master over your life) and Savior.
Forgive me and grant me your gift of everlasting life. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen." (God knows your heart better than you, so please be honest with Him in praying)

SK

I have done this before. But now I'm not sure anymore if that was right. We are His creation, and therefore he can do with us and the world whatever he wants, but - by His own standards (given by the bible), He has (just recently, remember the tsunami) caused more pain and sorrow than all humans altogether. I still trust in God, but He made it very hard to give all my love to him.

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"But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?" Mt 3:7

Calling such people such names in those days... harsh? culturally inappropriate? swearing?

15"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. - mt.23

What does "Son of Hell" sound a lot like to you? Son-of-a...?

Jesus uses Johns swears at the Pharisees: 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. Mt. 12

Ever wondered why Jesus talks about what comes out of yer mouth after he has just sworn... if u don't think its swearing, I tested it out... went up to a jewish friend and said him and his mates were abrood of vipers....

...I promise you, it's a swear.

And, for our more literally minded friends... King James Version:

  1. 1 Samuel 25:22
    So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that ****eth against the wall.
    1 Samuel 25:21-23 (in Context) 1 Samuel 25 (Whole Chapter)
  2. 1 Samuel 25:34
    For in very deed, as the LORD God of Israel liveth, which hath kept me back from hurting thee, except thou hadst hasted and come to meet me, surely there had not been left unto Nabal by the morning light any that ****eth against the wall.
    1 Samuel 25:33-35 (in Context) 1 Samuel 25 (Whole Chapter)
  3. 1 Kings 14:10
    Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that ****eth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, and will take away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as a man taketh away dung, till it be all gone.
    1 Kings 14:9-11 (in Context) 1 Kings 14 (Whole Chapter)
  4. 1 Kings 16:11
    And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that ****eth against a wall, neither of his kinsfolks, nor of his friends.
    1 Kings 16:10-12 (in Context) 1 Kings 16 (Whole Chapter)
  5. 1 Kings 21:21
    Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that ****eth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel,
    1 Kings 21:20-22 (in Context) 1 Kings 21 (Whole Chapter)
  6. 2 Kings 9:8
    For the whole house of Ahab shall perish: and I will cut off from Ahab him that ****eth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel:
    2 Kings 9:7-9 (in Context) 2 Kings 9 (Whole Chapter)
Who's taking the ****eth now huh?
 
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FLANDIDLYANDERS said:
"But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?" Mt 3:7

Calling such people such names in those days... harsh? culturally inappropriate? swearing?
Maybe those kind of namecalling was usual in those days. But helpful in any way...?

FLANDIDLYANDERS said:
Jesus uses Johns swears at the Pharisees: 34You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. Mt. 12

Ever wondered why Jesus talks about what comes out of yer mouth after he has just sworn... if u don't think its swearing, I tested it out... went up to a jewish friend and said him and his mates were abrood of vipers....

...I promise you, it's a swear.
And that makes Jesus a murderer by his own words and standards, isn't it? Just great. :( Christians are the followers of a self-declared murderer. :cry:
Oh btw... Wasn't it said that Jesus was "without sin"? I wonder how that might fit together.

FLANDIDLYANDERS said:
And, for our more literally minded friends... King James Version:
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Who's taking the ****eth now huh?
Thanks :sigh: That's enough for me, although I (luckily?) don't know what the **** stands for.:eek:

D.
 
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FLANDIDLYANDERS said:
Doesn't make Jesus evil, if swearing isn't evil... duh!
Er, I don't get that one, but doesn't matter (I hope) ;)
FLANDIDLYANDERS said:
(Look up in KJV... * * * * e t h.)
I see, Thank you very much - esp. because I'm german and don't have access to the KJV :cool:
FLANDIDLYANDERS said:
Flan out.
:)
 
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SWEARING IS FLOPPIN WRONG AND IF I CAUGHT SOME SKITHEAD SWEARING WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF ME, I'D FLOOKEN SLOP THEIR GOAT.

I know it's wrong to do it in the company of people who find it offensive... because it makes them upset. Other than that, I have no idea...
 
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