Swamp Draining Status?

Kentonio · Jan 25, 2019

LostMarbels said:
No, I agree. Hang them. You don't mess with children.

Couldn't agree more. Do you know what famed swamp drainer Donald J Trump said about Jeffrey Epstein in an interview before Epstein was arrested?

Donald Trump: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

cow451 · Jan 25, 2019

LostMarbels said:
Honestly tho... no one has even acknowledged or even looked into what I have already presented. Why provide more?

I looked at it and it’s a lot of paranoid crap. You can’t cite a single actual investigation except one by a nonexistent agency in Arkansas.

You also provide no context for the asset forfeitures. A big international law firm is going to represent some shady people, including people like the President. But you are so caught up in the fantasy that your “facts” are like blaming Tiger Woods for a golf course in West Virginia having gophers.

cow451 · Jan 25, 2019

LostMarbels said:
This is a can of worms I honestly hope you are willing to research instead of just dogpiling me. The coding used to make orders, such as Pizza, Map, Hotdog and so on comes from Backpage, not Ping Pong Pizza. The pizza Parlor was used to confuse the issue and spin the story. In the Podesta emails and the like, when they referred to these terms they weren't talking about the pizza joint, that is how you ordered child prostitutes from Backpage.

It's sick. I know.

I’ll agree that what you present is sick, but cannot elaborate due to TOS.

Think about it. One one Hans you claim zgencies are looking at these things. But all these things could not happen without Trump, Deep State and DOJ and FBI and every law enforcement agency in the world complicit.

DaisyDay · Jan 25, 2019

LostMarbels said:
Ahh.. hit it on the head. Any reason why so many oppose him on both sides of the isle?

Because he is an incompetent corrupt dotard with no concept of how government works.

Criminals don't want to get caught. They will even lie to keep from getting caught. What is coming down the line many are trying to flee by any means.

Some do, some don't.

First off... 'pizzagate' is actually a misnomer. The entire situation had nothing to do with a pizza parlor. That was spin to throw off the hounds.

Well, that's just it - the pizza parlor sex traffic ring known as Pizzagate is a conspiracy theory. People believed it to the extent that one guy actually showed up with a gun to free the children imprisoned in the nonexistent basement. However, Backpage.com was facilitating sex trafficking, but Backpage is not Pizzagate.

The Clinton Foundation is a genuine charity. Far from profiting from it, the Clintons have contributed substantial amounts of their own money to it. The Donald J Trump Foundation, on the other hand, is a fake charity with a nonexistent board that uses other people's money to benefit Donald J Trump.

Uranium One is also a fake scandal. The Moscow Trump Tower proposal is a real scandal, under-reported still.

Phil.Stein · Jan 25, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
This is to all the Trump supporters.

One of Trump's big slogans in the campaign was "Drain the Swamp", implying an intent to remove corruption from the halls of the capital. Roughly two years on, I was hoping that some of his supporters (or non-supporters, too) could describe for me some of the progress that his administration has made in rooting out corruption that doesn't directly impact or target him - IOW, where has he tackled corruption for the sake of tackling corruption, not because that corruption was somehow making his life more difficult? (e.g. Firing Peter Strzok doesn't count.)

It's no secret that I don't like the guy, but if he's done something good on this front, then I'm more than happy to give credit where it's due.

Trump has started to drain the swamp, but he needs a bigger sucker. Unfortunately for him, during Barack Obama's stint in power, the democrats were basically dumping all their sewage into the swamp, and some of the larger turds released included big-name democrats I won't name here for fear of breaching the site flaming rule. However, as I'm sure you can imagine, whilst sucking from the swamp, some of these bigger obstructions are slowing down the draining process, and Trump is spending a lot more time keeping his swamp-sucker clear, than actually draining said swamp. Once some of the larger blockages are better liquified, the swamp will drain faster.

JackRT · Jan 25, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
This is to all the Trump supporters.

One of Trump's big slogans in the campaign was "Drain the Swamp", implying an intent to remove corruption from the halls of the capital. Roughly two years on, I was hoping that some of his supporters (or non-supporters, too) could describe for me some of the progress that his administration has made in rooting out corruption that doesn't directly impact or target him - IOW, where has he tackled corruption for the sake of tackling corruption, not because that corruption was somehow making his life more difficult? (e.g. Firing Peter Strzok doesn't count.)

It's no secret that I don't like the guy, but if he's done something good on this front, then I'm more than happy to give credit where it's due.

He came into office and brought his own swamp with him. That swamp is slowly being drained. Another bucket was taken from that swamp just this morning. That bucket had a stone in it --- stones are sometimes found in swamps.

LoAmmi · Jan 25, 2019

Phil.Stein said:
Trump has started to drain the swamp, but he needs a bigger sucker. Unfortunately for him, during Barack Obama's stint in power, the democrats were basically dumping all their sewage into the swamp, and some of the larger turds released included big-name democrats I won't name here for fear of breaching the site flaming rule. However, as I'm sure you can imagine, whilst sucking from the swamp, some of these bigger obstructions are slowing down the draining process, and Trump is spending a lot more time keeping his swamp-sucker clear, than actually draining said swamp. Once some of the larger blockages are better liquified, the swamp will drain faster.

Trump is Swamp Thing. He ain't draining nothing.

Foxfyre · Jan 25, 2019

iluvatar5150 said:
This is to all the Trump supporters.

One of Trump's big slogans in the campaign was "Drain the Swamp", implying an intent to remove corruption from the halls of the capital. Roughly two years on, I was hoping that some of his supporters (or non-supporters, too) could describe for me some of the progress that his administration has made in rooting out corruption that doesn't directly impact or target him - IOW, where has he tackled corruption for the sake of tackling corruption, not because that corruption was somehow making his life more difficult? (e.g. Firing Peter Strzok doesn't count.)

It's no secret that I don't like the guy, but if he's done something good on this front, then I'm more than happy to give credit where it's due.

He has gotten rid of some corrupt people at the FBI especially. But the sad fact is that the government in D.C., including most of the U.S. Congress, is made up of a self-serving permanent political class of elected, appointed, and permanent bureaucracy that exists to feather its own nest, have things as it wants them to be, and has become oblivious to caring about anybody or anything beyond that. It throws out enough bones to its voting constituency to keep its power, but it looks to benefit itself first before anything or anybody beyond that.

As a result, sadly, and what President Trump didn't understand when he was talking about draining the swamp, is that the swamp in D.C. doesn't have a drain.

LoAmmi · Jan 25, 2019

Foxfyre said:
He has gotten rid of some corrupt people at the FBI especially. But the sad fact is that the government in D.C., including most of the U.S. Congress, is made up of a self-serving permanent political class of elected, appointed, and permanent bureaucracy that exists to feather its own nest, have things as it wants them to be, and has become oblivious to caring about anybody or anything beyond that. It throws out enough bones to keep its power, but it looks to benefit itself first before anything or anybody beyond that.

As a result, sadly, and what President Trump didn't understand when he was talking about draining the swamp, is that the swamp in D.C. doesn't have a drain.

He talked about Goldman Sachs being part of the swamp, then brings two of them into his cabinet. Several appointees have resigned in disgrace after abusing taxpayer funds. I really don't understand how people can believe like you do. It's like I'm talking to people from a separate timeline.

cow451 · Jan 25, 2019

Phil.Stein said:
Trump has started to drain the swamp, but he needs a bigger sucker. Unfortunately for him, during Barack Obama's stint in power, the democrats were basically dumping all their sewage into the swamp, and some of the larger turds released included big-name democrats I won't name here for fear of breaching the site flaming rule. However, as I'm sure you can imagine, whilst sucking from the swamp, some of these bigger obstructions are slowing down the draining process, and Trump is spending a lot more time keeping his swamp-sucker clear, than actually draining said swamp. Once some of the larger blockages are better liquified, the swamp will drain faster.

Trump apparently takes the American people as suckers.

Foxfyre · Jan 25, 2019

LoAmmi said:
He talked about Goldman Sachs being part of the swamp, then brings two of them into his cabinet. Several appointees have resigned in disgrace after abusing taxpayer funds. I really don't understand how people can believe like you do. It's like I'm talking to people from a separate timeline.

News flash. When people are sacked for abusing taxpayer funds, that IS draining the swamp. It is happening under the Trump Administration. It didn't during Obama or Bush 43 Administrations. And a person is not an organization. Who better to accomplish reform than those who have been part of the problem but who know how it works and want to make things better?

LoAmmi · Jan 25, 2019

Foxfyre said:
News flash. When people are sacked for abusing taxpayer funds, that IS draining the swamp. It is happening under the Trump Administration. It didn't during Obama or Bush 43 Administrations. And a person is not an organization. Who better to accomplish reform than those who have been part of the problem but who know how it works and want to make things better?

If you put them in place, and then get rid of them, it isn't draining the swamp. It's correcting your own error.

Foxfyre · Jan 25, 2019

LoAmmi said:
If you put them in place, and then get rid of them, it isn't draining the swamp. It's correcting your own error.

If you are without error in any decisions you make, you have the righteous authority to criticize somebody else for an error in judgment. And draining the swamp means getting rid of corrupt and incompetent people regardless of who put them there.

LoAmmi · Jan 25, 2019

Foxfyre said:
If you are without error in any decisions you make, you have the righteous authority to criticize somebody else for an error in judgment. And draining the swamp means getting rid of corrupt and incompetent people regardless of who put them there.

I can criticize whomever I want whenever I want. I don't have to be perfect to see some other schmuck isn't.

Foxfyre · Jan 25, 2019

LoAmmi said:
I can criticize whomever I want whenever I want. I don't have to be perfect to see some other schmuck isn't.

To each his own. Have a lovely day.

cow451 · Jan 25, 2019

Foxfyre said:
News flash. When people are sacked for abusing taxpayer funds, that IS draining the swamp. It is happening under the Trump Administration. It didn't during Obama or Bush 43 Administrations. And a person is not an organization. Who better to accomplish reform than those who have been part of the problem but who know how it works and want to make things better?

What?????? Hiring crooks that later get fired is draining the swamp????????????????????

Kaon · Jan 25, 2019

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whatbogsends · Jan 25, 2019

Foxfyre said:
News flash. When people are sacked for abusing taxpayer funds, that IS draining the swamp. It is happening under the Trump Administration. It didn't during Obama or Bush 43 Administrations. And a person is not an organization. Who better to accomplish reform than those who have been part of the problem but who know how it works and want to make things better?

The people being sacked for abusing taxpayer funds were appointed to their positions by Trump, and abused taxpayer funds after being appointed by Trump.

Putting in swamp creatures and subsequently removing them isn't "draining the swamp".

Trump has bragged about bribing politicians. Yes, it's bad for the politicians, but, to anyone who is actually objective, it is equally bad for Trump. Both parties involved in bribery are at fault, not just the one taking the bribe.

whatbogsends · Jan 25, 2019

Foxfyre said:
If you are without error in any decisions you make, you have the righteous authority to criticize somebody else for an error in judgment. And draining the swamp means getting rid of corrupt and incompetent people regardless of who put them there.

"I hire only the best people." - Donald Trump.

Is having to remove a substantial number of his appointees for corruption reflective of hiring the best people?

Foxfyre · Jan 25, 2019

cow451 said:
What?????? Hiring crooks that later get fired is draining the swamp????????????????????

Yep. Because sometimes there is no way to know they are crooks until they are in the job.

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