Survivor 10 Palau!

[JC 101 FM]

I'm not that attached to anyone yet.

 

[JPPT1974]

Kim is cancer there. She does need to go!

 

[bill'swife]

Kim is cancer there. She does need to go!

Yep...I hope she is next!!!

 

[AirPo]

I can't belive Jeff's gone. I feel so bad for him. He was so good, and he might have had a chance of winning, but he had to leave because of one little rolled ankle.

Personally, I think he was using that as an excuse to get out of the game.

 

[cac]

I really enjoy this show, I cant seem to get enough of it. The challenges are really cool and I also like all the beautiful scenery.

 

[Azna]

Oh come on. She's an artist and her body is her canvas.

Cough, cough...As a professional artist...all I have to say about that is...I think Her "canvas" needs restretching!

Personally, I think he was using that as an excuse to get out of the game.

Interesting take on Jeff's "sacrifice" Airpo. I think he may have felt guilty about his calous words about his cuddlefest with Kim at tribal councel.

And how is it that everyone is playing in their underwear...except Tom? He had swim trunks. Was he actually smart enough to wear them under his cloths or something? I was impressed by that.

Speaking of Tom...I like what one Ulong tribe member said about losing because he is such a force. Ibrehem took offense to it. But come on...a team of three overcame them.

I think Bobby John is a Tom wanabe. I could kind of see it 20 years down the line. Can't you? He's got the "get whatever needs to be done, done" attitude. He just needs a little seasoning and temperence.

I want to see more of the other tribe members. Each week they show the players and I go "don't know who they are, don't know them, don't know them, don't know them either". The way it's going, it's like they're showcasing about 6 players and everyone else just slips to the background.

 

[AirPo]

Cough, cough...As a professional artist...all I have to say about that is...I think Her "canvas" needs restretching!

Well perhaps we'll have an chance to revisit that during Survivor Allstars 3 or 4 after she's had a child or two.

Interesting take on Jeff's "sacrifice" Airpo. I think he may have felt guilty about his calous words about his cuddlefest with Kim at tribal councel.

To me it just did not seem genuine. "Oh I reinjured my ankle. Oh I can't compete. You'll be better off without me."

Who was it, Bobby Joe? He pointed ot that Jeff "injured" still did more than Kim... well being Kim.

Ggranted, he may have bowed out due to as sense of duty, "I can't compete, so I shouldn't be here." But that doesn't fit in with the survivor philosophy, to survive.

 

[New Creation]

Speaking of Tom...I like what one Ulong tribe member said about losing because he is such a force. Ibrehem took offense to it. But come on...a team of three overcame them.

I think Bobby John is a Tom wanabe. I could kind of see it 20 years down the line. Can't you? He's got the "get whatever needs to be done, done" attitude. He just needs a little seasoning and temperence.

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I agree completely with your observation of Bobby Jon. I like him as well, but Tom is currently the man. I still can't get over how well tall skinny geeky Ian is doing. He's another one I like.

And yeah, props to Stephanie, the last woman in the challenge and she went all the way. Very cool.

Somebody please get rid of boring useless Kim.

 

[shari54]

Go Steph but Ian is such a sweet kid!!

 

[Azna]

Well perhaps we'll have an chance to revisit that during Survivor Allstars 3 or 4 after she's had a child or two.

I hope they don't revisit the Survivor All Stars scenerio.

 

[JPPT1974]

I heard that Jeff Probst the host of the show hated the Survivor All-Stars due to their increasing "egos" but you never know since it was popular last year.

 

[Oblivious]

I can't belive Jeff's gone. I feel so bad for him. He was so good, and he might have had a chance of winning, but he had to leave because of one little rolled ankle.

I think it was great how he was honest about his injury and urged the tribe to vote him off. I was sad to see him go.

 

[AirPo]

I hope they don't revisit the Survivor All Stars scenerio.

I think it would be great if they did a "Second Chance" season with all the folks that were first to get voted off.

 

[I'mHis]

I agree...put some cloths on woman! We don't want to see that!

I totally agree with this! It is way too much information for me!!! The same for Coby in his disgusting Speedo.

Tom rocks! He dominated. I love how he handled that immunity challenge. He acted like he could have won by himself! lol I was talking to someone at work and we were saying he is probably used to carrying such heacvy stuff because he is a fireman. I like Ian too. I was cracking up when they were going after those snakes and the sharks.

I like Stephanie too. She doesn't give up. You go girl!!!!

I don't know if it was the wisest thing who they voted off. At least he could have helped some around camp or something. Kim does absolutely nothing. She needs to go.

 

[erin74]

I heard that Jeff Probst the host of the show hated the Survivor All-Stars due to their increasing "egos" but you never know since it was popular last year.

There was an article in a magazine about it. He listed his favourite to least favourite series. A friend of mine posted this on a different site.


Here's the one I'm talking about from the US 'Entertainment Weekly' magazine:

Jeff Ranks The Seasons

1. Borneo
"You'll never repeat those first 39 days -- never. It was the virgin season, and the show was being created day by day. In many ways, Richard, Sue, Rudy, and the other 13 created it as much as we did. Even though contest wise the show was solid, we weren't always sure where it was going. As for me, I really didn't know what the hell I was doing. Plus, CBS made us put that trunk on the Tribal Council set, which I hated. It was a little corny, but hey, the show was corny, so in that sense it fit. When Sue made her big speech blasting Kelly at the final Tribal Council, the only thing I was thinking was -- this is money. It's probably still the greatest Survivor moment, and another reason why season 1 will never be repeated. And I honestly thought that Richard would be the first person voted off. He's a scheming, pompous, condescending guy, but is so endearing you want to keep him around even though you know he's got a dagger with your name on it."


2. Australia
"I could almost put Australia as a tie for No. 1. It has the incredible cast led by Colby and Elisabeth. You had forest fires, a flood, Mike Skupin killing a pig and the falling in a fire, burning his hands so severely that the skin was falling off. And rarely do you have a choice in the final three that makes people drop their jaw, and Colby's choice to take Tina to the final two over Keith made people's jaws drop. And then Colby lost. That show delivered every damn week. Everybody wanted to marry Elisabeth, and Jerri was maybe the best female villain ever. And as for that season's biggest controversy: I do think Kel had the beef jerky. Just a gut feeling on what I heard and saw. People try to smuggle things in all the time, and if you're really good, you can get away with stuff. It's part of the game. We've had people try to smuggle things up their ass! And I won't say who, because we caught them and it never made the show, but somebody tried to smuggle something up their anus. So beef jerky is no big deal."


3. Pearl Islands
"There are many reasons why Pearl Islands was good. Top of the list would be casting one of the greatest heroes and greatest villains in the same season with Rupert and Jonny Fairplay. You know you're in for a good season when Rupert immediately starts stealing people's shoes. And then you have Jonny Fairplay, who's completely despicable. It was actually fun to work with Fairplay on the show because he's a producer's dream. When he shows up drunk or flips somebody off, he's bringing you gold every time. I wish we had a Jonny Fairplay every season. Personally, however, he's an absolute jackass whose actions at the Vanuatu finale after-party ****ed me off so much that he's banned from any event I'm at from now on. I'm done with Jonny Fairplay. Osten was complete opposite. Outside the game, Osten is a very likable guy, but on the show he frustrated me because every time he showed up, he wanted to quit. When he finally did quit, -- the first person ever to do so on the series -- we didn't want to give him the honor of being voted out. Instead, we said, "We're just gonna lay your torch down and you can go home - loser." The other thing about Pearl Islands is one of the most debated twists ever -- the Outcasts. I hated the Outcasts. I felt it went against everything we say the show is about -- that if you are voted out, you are out of the game. In addition, it cost us a great player in Andrew Savage and in return gave us Lill, the most undeserving final-two member ever. But the flip side is, you ask people what the memorable things are about the show and the Outcasts always comes up. So was it a good twist? I guess so. I just philosophically hated it."


4. All-Stars
"All-Stars, I thought, was great to watch -- and miserable for me to experience. Worst season I've ever had. I even considered quitting many times. I thought, I'm done with this show, I don't like it anymore, I don't like these people and their out-of-control egos, I don't like what the show's become. Now, I've gotten some distance from it and realize, it was just a really, really personal season. But it's incredible what happened. First off, there's Jenna with this dramatic gut feeling that something's wrong at home with her mother, who died eight days after Jenna left the island. And then you have this horrible, ugly incident where Sue accused a naked Richard of rubbing himself against her during a challenge. This prompted the single worst Survivor moment I've ever had -- standing on the beach with Sue just yelling at me for what happened. That's the only time in nine seasons of Survivor that I had absolutely no idea how to respond. The whole thing between Sue and Richard was a train wreck. On the flip side, Boston Rob did something no one has ever done before: He came right out and said, "I'm running this game, and I'm doing it with my woman tucked under my arm -- just try and stop me." And somehow he did it, in no small part to Lex falling for it. Lex will continue to say, "Hey, I was doing a buddy a favor." ********. Lex is a strategist as much as anybody, and he's a good player, but this time, he got played. Much like the Outcasts, I hope we never do another All-Stars again, because Survivor is a game about strangers living together. Once they have had that experience and have spent time together socially, it's a completely different game. It's stunt casting."


5. The Amazon
"I liked the battle of the sexes. I liked how it exposed the differences between men and women, especially in regards to competition. Initially, it seemed that women dominate because guys are still preening for the ladies, but as the game becomes more competitive, the men bond and the women begin to fall apart. Rob Cesternino, of course, was a breakout character and really reminded people how to play this game. Specifically, that if you're fifth on the totem pole, you can get with folks who are third and fourth and knock off the people above you. Plus, he was obviously full of great one-liners and and had a quick wit. And this was definitely the most unpredictable of seasons. How do you ever predict that Jenna and Matthew making it to the final two, and the spoiled college-sorority girl winning?!?! And she only won because the jury thought that Matthew was crazy. And they didn't want to give him the million dollars."


6. Vanuatu
"Vanuatu is a great example of how I can never predict how a season will be viewed. Personally, I really enjoyed this group of people. They were fun and easy to get along with. But we didn't have the huge characters, so there were no big events from Vanuatu. Oddly, we did have one of the best final Tribal Councils ever, and I think that was because the relationships were so personal. The things I liked about the season -- I loved that we had two gay women on the show, although Scout has since informed me that she's "omnisexual." As for repeating the battle of the sexes again, it's simple: if you do a show long enough, you're going to have to repeat some things. The characters on Friends can only date each other so many times before they start re-dating each other. Every season of Survivor is not going to have a jaw dropping restructuring. What frustrated me about Vanuatu, watching it as a viewer, was the double standard that applied to Chris and Twila. Chris lied more often and with more brutality than Twila ever did. Twila lied once, swearing on her son's life that she'd remain true to her alliance, but Chris lied the entire time. He's probably still lying!"


7. Africa
"On paper, Africa should have been a better season. We had some great players and characters in Lex and Big Tom. We had the most epic locale ever -- the middle of Kenya, with giraffes and zebras and gazelle. But I think the fact that there was no water sourse made it miserable for them to live and miserable for everyone else to watch. It wasn't a fun season. And you end up with a final two of Ethan, who is a nice guy but boring television, and Kim Johnson, who is a wonderful woman, but again -- boring television. That's hard to hear when you're one of those Survivors. It's hard to hear that people didn't like your season, because you take it personally, but this group didn't work. As for the decision to do our first tribal switcharoo 13 days in, that was something we had talked about doing for a while, but the players hated it. I remember Lex looked at me like he wanted to kill me. I'm not sure if he feels any differently today."


8. Marquesas
"One thing Marquesas has going against it is -- worst location ever. I will never go back to Marquesas -- ever. The no-no sandflies were eating people alive. Dramatically, I just felt like Marquesas never really got any momentum, and by the time you got to the final two with Neleh and Vecepia -- I'm sleeping. In terms of casting a good player, we cast well with Vecepia, but in terms of casting for the show -- she was a snoozer. And Neleh was no better. It was one of the worst final Tribal Councils ever. It was sooooo boring. At least Kathy was around this season to pee on someone's hand. Although she says what really happened is that a couple of guys tried to pee on John's hand first and had some performance anxiety. So she did it. And then she couldn't stop. The most interesting thing about Marquesas -- and what nobody knows -- is that we screwed up on the colored-rock tiebreaker that knocked out Paschal. In the event of a Tribal Council tie, Survivors pull rocks out of a bag, and whoever pulls the colored rock is eliminated. That way it's supposed to work is that once the tie is revealed, the people for whom votes have been cast, and the person with immunity all become safe; the others have to pull rocks. We didn't realize the process works for all numbers except four. (With four people left, only one person is eligible to pull a rock since one has immunity and two have recieved votes.) I realized something was wrong about halfway through as Paschal, Neleh and Kathy were all pulling their rocks out. Even if I had figured out exactly what was wrong, there would have been no way to correct it because we had already done it. Let me be clear -- no rules were violated. It's just not what we meant to happen. And that's the truth."


9. Thailand
"They're gonna hate me for saying this, but this final four of Brian, Clay, Helen and Jan was the least likable final four ever. And that, in a nutshell, explains why Thailand is No. 9 for me. There was so much negativity, with Ted and Ghandia's he said/she said sexual "grinding" incident, and Robb strangling Clay during the "attack zone" challenge. And then you felt like you needed a shower after watching Brian play, because he was so sleazy. It was a mean-spirited season. There was a lot of hostility, a lot of ugliness, and that's not fun to watch. We love conflict on Survivor, but conflict that is fun to watch, not conflict that is uncomfortable to watch. It's kinda odd that on the season I liked the least, they decided to ask me to host the reunion special for the first timem although I honestly think that's just because they couldn't find anybody else. I don't think it was they they suddenly thought that I could do it, They just couldn't find anybody they liked, so they were like, "Okaym we'll just try Jeff."

 

[erin74]

How good are Tom and Ian - I think it's amazing that they are working together to lead so well. They really are leading that tribe. I don't think I have ever seen two people lead together before without a power struggle. Interesting to watch. I think that Coby could cause problems with that down the track - possibly post merge. I think that may be their undoing, unfortunately.

As for Oblong - Bobby John is growing on me. Angie is performing really well in the rc's. I was really surprised that she dropped out of the IC so quickly. Wonder if she has a strategy that involves throwing the IC's??? James is driving me nuts. I thought it was funny that even though Bobby John and James had the same material and resources to work with that Bobby John ended up looking like a Jedi Knight, while James looked like someone out of the Jesus video!

Still loving Koror.

Erin

 

[Savedsis]

I think it would be great if they did a "Second Chance" season with all the folks that were first to get voted off.

That would be interesting....

 

[erin74]

Apparently Wanda said in an interview that she would be up to something like that. I think it would be more interesting than all-stars. There is a guy who writes fictional all-stars series, and has also written a fictional second chance series - it's excellent.

http://members.aol.com/AllStarHawaii/greece.htm

I didn't really like the all-stars thing, cause when they have pre-existing relationships it really is a different game - a bit voyeuristic (spelling???) for me.

What do you think the mix up will be next week? As long as it isn't a random thing, like drawing buffs or standing on logs, I'll be happy. I just love Koror too much to see it mixed up at the moment.

 

[Glaz]

Man, I really am disliking Tom. Too smug for my taste. Right now I am rooting for Bobby John or Ian to win, but they're too strong so they will probably be gone once they go to one tribe.

 

[purebeauty]

I definitely want Ian or Bobby John to win as well. I also think that Stephanie is very strong as well.