Supreme Court Rules Out Guns In Georgia Churches

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That's the churches' own fault.

As soon as a church files for tax-emempt status (401-c document if memory serves correct), they officially give up the right to make their own rules.

The church my dad goes to does not file for this status, therefore in the eyes of the government, it's just another privately owned building (which the members all chip in to cover the taxes on)...so people in there (like my Dad) can still legally carry.

It goes back to the entitlement-minded aspect of our current society...they expect the government to give them a handout or a break in a particular area, but then expect the government to have no say in that area...much like marriage, democrats pushed for the tax credit for being married, but then throw a hissy fit when the government wants to have a say in defining what marriage is. But that's another topic ;)
 
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Ye HAW! Georgia is maintaining victim disarmament zones so our next psycho-killer will know where he can safely strike.

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Lets recall, bans on carrying firearms in churches had their origin in preventing African Americans, Catholics and Jews from carrying guns to their churches . . . Gun control policies always have been and always will be about supporting the KKK's agenda.
 
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The real origins of the pro gun lobby.

And in order to defend themselves against the violence of the State, the Panthers had to purchase and maintain an armory of their own.

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Guns became central to the Panthers’ identity, as they taught their early recruits that “the gun is the only thing that will free us—gain us our liberation.” They bought some of their first guns with earnings from selling copies of Mao Zedong’s Little Red Book to students at the University of California at Berkeley. In time, the Panther arsenal included machine guns; an assortment of rifles, handguns, explosives, and grenade launchers; and “boxes and boxes of ammunition”


The Black Panthers


These guns were used as a counter-intimidation tactic against the police; one of the Panthers’ most famous tactics was to follow police cars around, ensuring that they were not violating or abusing the rights of Oakland citizens. And needless to say, this was a teeny bit irksome to the political ruling class of California.

Don Mulford, a conservative Republican state assemblyman from Alameda County, which includes Oakland, was determined to end the Panthers’ police patrols. To disarm the Panthers, he proposed a law that would prohibit the carrying of a loaded weapon in any California city.

Mulford’s party was quite accepting of this plan.

Republicans in California eagerly supported increased gun control. Governor Reagan told reporters that afternoon that he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” He called guns a “ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.”
 
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The real origins of the pro gun lobby.
"One of the Panthers’ most famous tactics was to follow police cars around, ensuring that they were not violating or abusing the rights of Oakland citizen"


Cool, thanks for agreeing with me. . . .

Excerpt from the song Killing in the Name By Rage Against the Machine:

Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
Those who died are justified, for wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites
You justify those that died by wearing the badge, they're the chosen whites

Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses
Uggh!

Killing in the name of!
Killing in the name of

And now you do what they told ya
 
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Need to see the ruling on this.
Imho a church should be able to decide for themselves, gun free or gun full.

Seems that a church only need to include in their mission that guns are a part of their religion, and then 1st amendment would protect the second.
Seems like that would be most of those red necks from the south "clingin to their guns and religion."


It started before that. The NRA was a great friend to former slaves following the civil war, as they fought to keep them legally armed.

NRA doesn't care about skin tone, as long as you are law abiding you should be able to have/carry a gun.
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Personally, I think the Supreme Court was right in upholding the GA law; not because holders of leagally obtained firearms who have concealed carry permits should have to watch where they go or violate the law for forgetting to disarm themselves before entering certain buildings, but because the state has the authority, not the Supreme Court. This could be easily settled by drafting and passing a bill that designates courthouses or feredal building as the ONLY exceptions to concealed carry rights.

Beyond that, I see no problem with having a gun with you at all times. The criminals have them, and they don't go to church to worship. If a criminal comes to church, you'd better be armed.
 
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Personally, I think the Supreme Court was right in upholding the GA law; not because holders of leagally obtained firearms who have concealed carry permits should have to watch where they go or violate the law for forgetting to disarm themselves before entering certain buildings, but because the state has the authority, not the Supreme Court. This could be easily settled by drafting and passing a bill that designates courthouses or feredal building as the ONLY exceptions to concealed carry rights.

Beyond that, I see no problem with having a gun with you at all times. The criminals have them, and they don't go to church to worship. If a criminal comes to church, you'd better be armed.


Interesting. I think the State of Georgia should revise their carry law. People legally carrying in church aren't likely to be problems & guns locked in cars in the parking-lot would make a decent target for auto-burglary during services.
 
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Somehow they believe that owning a gun and not being allowed to take it into a church violates their freedom of religion. LOL
Meh, just take away their guns, their bibles, their preachers, their 10 commandments, their crosses, force them to take a handful of condoms and give them a receipt for their contribution to abortion and call that 'religious freedom.'
 
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I was a bit surprised.

After all this is a Georgia state law. Seems strange it got passed as it seems to be written. (The origin of the case was a pastor who wanted to carry when working, one presumes alone or close to it).

It will not surprise me if the law gets modified.

Also the Supreme Court did not rule on this, just declined to hear it. There is a difference.
 
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Meh, just take away their guns, their bibles, their preachers, their 10 commandments, their crosses, force them to take a handful of condoms and give them a receipt for their contribution to abortion and call that 'religious freedom.'

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Excerpt from the song Killing in the Name By Rage Against the Machine:

the actual lyric is a bit better: it's "some of those who were enforcers, were the same that burned crosses"

The rhythm does make "work forces" seem plausible, and in the sole instance of a sweat shop boss it makes sense and carries the same meaning. Their actual words are darker though, which is what they're going for.

Great song, great band :thumbsup:
 
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Interesting. I think the State of Georgia should revise their carry law. People legally carrying in church aren't likely to be problems & guns locked in cars in the parking-lot would make a decent target for auto-burglary during services.

Auto burglary during services is a major issue! Instead of worrying about that sissified legislation nonsense, why not just have a role of Deacons be armed patrol of the parking lot?
 
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