Supreme Court Rules Out Guns In Georgia Churches

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Why can't congregants just pray the gun out of the gunman's hand? All it would take is faith the size of a mustard seed. And Jesus is already there.

How can you pray "be warm and filled," but without doing that which is needful for the body, what good does it do? Even so, faith without works is dead, being alone.
 
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Who the screaming heck takes guns to church? This is a joke right? I recognize you're being sarcastic but seriously surely no one actually does it.

I carry in church every week. There are at least three other people that are armed too.

The state should not be saying what a person or group may and may not allow on or in its property.
 
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I carry in church every week. There are at least three other people that are armed too.

The state should not be saying what a person or group may and may not allow on or in its property.

I think that last statement should be qualified, but to tie tax exempt status in to 4 armed people on premises automatically disqualifies you? That's abuse of power, plain and simple.

I'd like to know more about this "it used to be you got in trouble if you showed up at Church unarmed" stuff
 
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It started before that. The NRA was a great friend to former slaves following the civil war, as they fought to keep them legally armed.

Nice. Got a source (about 2 mins of Googling didn't get any hits)?

Meh, just take away their guns, their bibles, their preachers, their 10 commandments, their crosses, force them to take a handful of condoms and give them a receipt for their contribution to abortion and call that 'religious freedom.'

Did you take a tire iron that straw man, or shoot it with a shotgun?

Wasn't there a guy a few years back that decided to target a church, and was promptly shot by a member who was an off-duty cop or some such?

This one in Colorado?
Security guard who stopped shooter credits God - CNN
 
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Not the best sources, but it's a start:
National Rifle Association

The NRA was founded shortly after the American Civil War by Union Army officers who were appalled by the lack of shooting skills among the Union soldiers during the war and determined to correct this problem by encouraging the shooting sports and marksmanship among the general population, including former slaves in the former slave states. This made the NRA very unpopular in the former slaves states and the NRA was considered an enemy by the Ku Klux Klan.

The Ultimate Bowling for Columbine - American History Information Guide and Reference

An animated segment in the movie claiming to be a "brief history" of the United States of America has been criticized as grossly inaccurate, misleading, and manipulative. For instance, it notes the NRA was founded at the same time the Ku Klux Klan was outlawed, and shows a scene of a KKK member throwing off his robe and joining the NRA followed by representatives of each collaborating to burn a cross. But in fact the NRA was incorporated in New York and its original membership was made up of Union veterans from the American Civil War, whereas the KKK was a southern organization with roots in Confederate loyalists. Further, the KKK supported gun control laws with an eye to disarming Blacks, while the NRA trained Blacks in the use of firearms, giving them the means to defend themselves from Klansmen. Resultingly, the KKK considered the NRA its mortal enemy. No serious historian believes the groups are connected in any way. Also, the segment incorrectly depicts witches being burned in America, but this method of execution was never used (hanging was most common). Moreover, the central theme of the segment - that Americans, in contrast to Europeans, have a "culture of fear" and, for instance, the witch-burnings were due to "fear" of each other - is not consistent with the fact that the witch scare phenomenon afflicted Europe to a much greater extent than it did the United States (Cf. Spanish Inquisition).
 
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EdwinWillers said:
Meh, just take away their guns, their bibles, their preachers, their 10 commandments, their crosses, force them to take a handful of condoms and give them a receipt for their contribution to abortion and call that 'religious freedom.'
Did you take a tire iron that straw man, or shoot it with a shotgun?
:scratch: What straw man?
 
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I carry in church every week. There are at least three other people that are armed too.

The state should not be saying what a person or group may and may not allow on or in its property.

So, does a church have the right to have a "no guns" policy? Does a private property owner have the right to have a "no guns policy"?
 
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If you wouldn't, maybe you should go somewhere where you would feel safe.

There is one hot-tempered deacon that I would definit5ely not want to be packing at Church (actually anywhere, but I cannot control that). He does have a CCW permit, unfortunately.
 
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How can you pray "be warm and filled," but without doing that which is needful for the body, what good does it do? Even so, faith without works is dead, being alone.

Not quite sure what you are saying here.
 
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So, does a church have the right to have a "no guns" policy? Does a private property owner have the right to have a "no guns policy"?

If the church has filed the 401c paperwork, then they're subject to being a gun free zone as defined by the government...however, if it's a church like my dad's (where it's not tax exempt), it's just another piece of private property in which the owner(s) can hang that little sign in the front window if they'd like, or not.

One misconception about those signs is this, if it's not a government defined "gun free zone", then those signs hold about as much legal clout as the "no shirt, no shoes, no service" signs.

I posted the exact text of the law in another thread, but what those signs equate to is "the property owner can ask you to leave, if you refuse, you can be charged with misdemeanor trespassing".
 
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So, does a church have the right to have a "no guns" policy? Does a private property owner have the right to have a "no guns policy"?


Absolutely. If an owner does not want guns on his property he should notbe forced to allow them. Same with churches
 
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