suicide

[sh2st]

would God send someone to hell because they killed themselves? looking for a christian view.

 

[Hisfirebrand]

would God send someone to hell because they killed themselves? looking for a christian view.

I guess it all depends on what their life was like. If the fruit of the Holy Spirit is evident in some way - or if there has been some kind of life that indicates one has come to know Christ. There is really no other way to the Father/Heaven than through Him. It is not God's harsh judgment that sends people to hell - it's usually their own choice because they have denied Christ by rejecting Him - whether that be conscious or not.

 

[Breetai]

I think God is more forgiving than that... I believe in reincarnation.

Man only dies once.

 

[Spiderlashes]

Personally, I think it depends on whether the person 1) is capable of reason (not significantly mentally ill) and 2) if the person has ever known/understood God's will.

Clinical depression is an actual brain disorder and the number 1 cause of suicide attempts. And if the depression is severe enough, it can impede the person's perception of reality and ability to reason.

So my personal guess is that God would spare these particular people who are so mentally ill as to not be competent. But ehh, someone just doing it for attention, doing it for the insurance money, doing it in a moment of anger, playing russian roulette, etc...might not be spared.

This is just my opinion (as Christian and a former suicide hotline volunteer). But I don't know for sure.

 

[theVirginian]

would God send someone to hell because they killed themselves? looking for a christian view.

Whatever the person's spiritual condition was is what they will be judged on. God isn't going to condemn anyone specifically for suicide. Keep in mind that any self destructive behavior is suicidal. It just takes longer to die from say, smoking, than shooting one's self.

What is so sad about suicide is that when they get to the other side and assuming they asked God for help, many are going to be told, "If you had just held on for x amount of time, the answer to your problem would have shown up."

 

[sh2st]

ok, in regards to that, why would God allow so much terrible stuff happen to one of His children that he loves that would push them to the point of even considering suicide? WHY?!?!

 

[Solidlyhere]

OP asks: "would God send someone to hell because they killed themselves?"

The Bible doesn't say, so it's anyone's guess.

I assume that this suicider is a Christian (because THAT will make a difference).
Christians aren't perfect, they are just forgiven.
So, if suicide happens to be a sin, then God should forgive it (a sin is a sin).
And, if suicide isn't a sin, then it's NO problem.

 

[Onlythingavailable]

I believe that each suicide is a unique case, and I doubt many of sound mind commit it. If we can feel sympathy for those who are so detached from reality that they see no way out except to kill themselves, how much more merciful isn't God?

God doesn't cause the terrible things to happen. This world is a fallen world, full of sin. That's why there is suffering. If God were to stop it, He would have to wipe us all out, because sin is everywhere. But God loves us so much that He doesn't do that. Instead He sent His only Son to die for us, so that through Jesus we could be freed from our sins and spend eternity with God. I understand that you are angry, but God isn't to blame, sin is. God is our salvation, not our enemy.

 

[BAFRIEND]

if someone commits suicide, I believe it is a strong indication that they sent themselves to hell.

Jesus sacraficed himself on the cross out of love, suicide is not sacraficing yourself for anything.

 

[Solidlyhere]

BAF said: "Jesus sacrificed Himself on the cross out of love, suicide is not sacrificing yourself for anything."

This statement has no relevance.

Jesus IS the sacrifice.
This way, I don't need to sacrifice.

In fact, in a way, Jesus committed suicide Himself.

Jesus CHOSE to die on the Cross.
Jesus could have asked Angels to bring Him down (or even to prevent Him being nailed to it at all).

 

[HumbleUnderdog]

Hard to say. Too many factors are involved in suicide for us to decide. I know that if I would have, I would be in hell, since I didn't believe in God and basically rejected Him because of my misunderstandings about Him.

 

[theVirginian]

ok, in regards to that, why would God allow so much terrible stuff happen to one of His children that he loves that would push them to the point of even considering suicide? WHY?!?!

Nobody is exempt from bad things happening to us and we need to be very careful about transferring the blame to God for allowing what happens. If we knew for sure why he allows them, it still wouldn't have much bearing as to how we deal with the issues of life.

We are a unique life form with the ability and responsibility for self determination. We also have an adversary named satan who's self appointed role is to steal, kill, and destroy. Devils might be behind a string of events, but one thing's for sure, they'll take advantage of the situation. Most suicides are because the person comes to the conclusion that there is no way out of their situation and they would rather die than endure any more of what is actually demonic pressure.

People who try to deal with the problem by relying only on the World's methods of dealing with life, have very limited chances of winning and this includes too many Christians. I'm not saying that things like medicine aren't useful, but they are rarely a cure. Those who choose God's ways will have a way out that is guaranteed to be successful. When starting as late as from the point of thoughts of suicide, it will be painful and messy, but it will work if the person guts it out.

 

[YourChild]

I think God is more forgiving than that... I believe in reincarnation and my idea of.

man die once and he is judged. There is no second chance....

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Man only dies once.

No, he dies twice.

If you are born twice you must die twice.

 

[UberLutheran]

I believe that suicide is a capital crime for which its practitioners deserve to be punished with the ultimate penalty: death.

If people realize they will receive the death penalty for suicide, they'll think twice about doing it.



(Note: I'm being facetious, folks!)

 

[R3quiem]

Jesus died on the cross to help us with ALL of ours sins. This doesn't exclude suicide.

As a Catholic, I'm pretty sure my church teaches that if a person commits suicide, they go to hell because they never get a chance to ask forgiveness.

I don't believe that though, I believe in a more loving god than that.

 

[Chie]

I believe that suicide is a capital crime for which its practitioners deserve to be punished with the ultimate penalty: death.

If people realize they will receive the death penalty for suicide, they'll think twice about doing it.



(Note: I'm being facetious, folks!)

whewwwwwwww and for a second I thought you was serious

 

[Spiderlashes]

I believe that suicide is a capital crime for which its practitioners deserve to be punished with the ultimate penalty: death.

If people realize they will receive the death penalty for suicide, they'll think twice about doing it.



(Note: I'm being facetious, folks!)

Actually, as suicide hotline volunteers, we were taught to use whatever resources we had at our disposal to stave off the attempt until the caller could be seen by a professional. If the caller believed he/she would go to hell for suicide, we were encouraged to use that belief to our advantage. We weren't to put that idea into the caller's mind, but if the idea was already there...and if it seemed to be one of the reasons for their "hold out," then we were to play that up. And the "if I do it, I will go to hell" reason was a very common hold out, just second to "I need to stick aroud for my kids/pets."

 

[Uphill Battle]

Jesus died on the cross to help us with ALL of ours sins. This doesn't exclude suicide.

As a Catholic, I'm pretty sure my church teaches that if a person commits suicide, they go to hell because they never get a chance to ask forgiveness.

I don't believe that though, I believe in a more loving god than that.

hold on a tick... A catholic who disbelieves a teaching of the CC? do tell.

 

[R3quiem]

hold on a tick... A catholic who disbelieves a teaching of the CC? do tell.

Yes, as a Catholic I disagree with some Catholic teachings. I don't believe that any denomination is perfectly correct in everything they say, because denominations are based on and run by humans who make mistakes.

The way I look at it, as long as they have the right idea that's what counts, it's not in the details.