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The forgiveness of sins is always there, on God's end (For His mercy endureth forever). It's only on our end that something needs to happen in order for us to benefit from it. Does something possibly happen within a person who has committed an action leading to their death and the precise time of the actual death which can lead to the repentance and salvation of said person? Can we know for certain what transpired between that person and their Creator immediately prior to their expiration? Can we be the all-knowing judges of this?
I am aware having lost someone as I said. When a person is in that state of mind they often can't think of anyone else. In fact, they often view themselves as a burden and think others would be better off without them.
Regarding my loved one, I truly believe God gave me assurance that I will see her again someday.
I believe that God can forgive mental illness. Some things cannot be helped. Jesus died for asll our sins on tyher cross.
Right. Sometimes its schizophrenic people like me too. I'm much more likely to die of suicide than any other means. I don't blame schizophrenic people for killing themselves either. Its a horrible illness to have to live with.
Right. Sometimes its schizophrenic people like me too. I'm much more likely to die of suicide than any other means. I don't blame schizophrenic people for killing themselves either. Its a horrible illness to have to live with.
For those who can understand it, God dies on the cross in order to show forth the infinite depths of His Love for and forgiveness of us all. His death saves us because He overcomes death by His own death, and rises up from it, thereby destroying its power. His death saves because it contains the seed of His (and therefor everyone else's) Resurrection. The forgiveness was always there, it's just that our ability to know that forgiveness ourselves is lacking. With this knowledge, that comes by grace, through faith, we ourselves overcome both sin and death.Right. I mean Jesus died for ALL of our sins. Past, present, and future. There isn't a single sin that God hasn't died for and covered.
Yes it's not only depression that makes someone more susceptible to suicide. I am sorry you have to deal with schizophrenia. It sounds like a horrible illness.
For those who can understand it, God die on the cross in order to show forth the infinite depths of His Love for and forgiveness of us all. His death saves us because He overcomes death by His own death, and rises up from it, thereby destroying its power. His death saves because it contains the seed of His (and therefor everyone else's) Resurrection. The forgiveness was always there, it's just that our ability to know that forgiveness ourselves is lacking. With this knowledge, that comes by grace, through faith we ourselves overcome both sin and death.
That being said, Orthodox Christians despise human death, never condoning the taking of life through an act of suicide. We will always insist upon leaving the time of our departure to the will of God, and will do our best to help anyone suffering from illnesses, using whatever means are available to us.Agreed. Well said.
You can choose to believe God's WORD or not. I was only sharing the scriptures with you. What you're suggesting is not biblical.
Someone who is suicidal is not mentally stable at that particular moment and anyone who has ever lived has had thought at one time or another about this. Blasphemy is the only unforgivable sin and that is ignoring the Holy Spirits calling to receive salvation. Once you accept Jesus, Romans 8:38,39
No suicide does not condemn you! However it is NOT God's plan for you and you simply cheat yourself out of many many blessings in life and hurt your family greatly.
Where does the Bible say that you have to ask for sins to be forgiven ... for them to be forgiven ?
What is Jesus instructing in the model prayer ... ?
"Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us."
You presume that all sins are forgiven. Can you cite just one scripture that plainly states that our future as well as our present sins are automatically forgiven? I can cite Rom 3:25 which states: "whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins." Former or past sins committed when we came to Christ are forgiven upon repentance and renewal in the Spirit, however there is no verse in Scripture that I'm aware of that states that all of our present and future sins are automatically forgiven. If such were the case, a born again believer would have the freedom to sin and lead a lifestyle of licentiousness. Jesus himself stated that if we refuse to forgive others, God will not forgive us which demonstrates that forgiveness is not automatically bestowed but comes with conditions. Forgiveness require repentance. Thus suicide is unforgivable because dead persons can't repent.Has anyone ever heard that suicide is a sin that cannot be forgiven? Where did this teaching come from? Why can't it be forgiven? Didn't Jesus die for all of our sins past, present, and future? So why is suicide an unforgivable sin?
I have heard it taught that suicide comes from a demonic spirit that constantly puts negative thoughts in your mind....thoughts that tell you what a loser you are, if you die you it would be a blessing to your family, that you have messed up so badly there is no other choice.....etc.....and dwelling on such negativitiy creates deep depression and it is hard to cope with daily issues of life.
You can find many stories of people on youtube faebook who had a NDE who committed suicide went to hell and they came back to tell their stories .So it can be forgiven if you want it to be by Jesus who people have said came to them in hell and asked "is this what you really want ". If you are thinking about these kind of thoughts you are being attacked by demons to get you to kill yourself so they can prove that God was wrong by giving us freewill . You need to call out to Archangel Michael for protection to clear your mind to get some relief then maybe go seek therapy to look at your beliefs causing you to have these thoughts . Remember you are never alone Jesus is always with us just ask for his help .
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