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You are making claims.

No scientific evidence to support your claims.
So you are making claims that my claims have no support and I claim that your claim that my claim has no support is indeed the real claim that has no support. So put up some evidence to back up your claim that I am not supporting my claims. Otherwise retract your claim that my claim has no support because you are not able to present any rock solid evidence for your claims.
 
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The evidence is your posts.

You made the claim, that scientific evidence shows that Genesis is true, without any doubt.

You have made claims and posted pictures and I asked for the "scientific evidence" that supports the biblical flood and biblical creation.

So far, no "scientific" evidence has been presented, to support either.
 
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I just showed it to you. Here is a photo of the walls if Jericho that we teach the kids in sunday school. You can do a carbon test and the date will line up with the date in the Bible.

We can find archaeological evidence for the city of Troy. The Iliad mentions the city of Troy. Does this mean that everything in the Iliad is true just because we found a city mentioned in the Iliad?
 
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We can find archaeological evidence for the city of Troy. The Iliad mentions the city of Troy. Does this mean that everything in the Iliad is true just because we found a city mentioned in the Iliad?
If Troy is a real city then that increases the chance that that the rest of the story about Troy is true. I believe that there really was a Helen of troy and her boyfriend and husband fought a battle for her. If the story is not true then we have to turn to Jung and look at the universal archetypes to see how it all applies and why the story has become a classic that generation after generation finds meaning in. The whole concept of a trojan horse in medicine does not matter if there really was a Trojan horse or not. The meaning in the dictionary remains the same.

I was raised on science and I became very disappointed in how limited science is to deal with a lot of the problems we have in life to deal with. There are many questions science can not answer. I was amazed at how much knowledge and understanding people have that have never been to college. As they say ALL things should be enjoyed in moderation. Science is no exception to that rule. I enjoy fiction and nonfiction. They both have their place. People should not get all out of balance and prefer one over the other. The Bible maintains a balance. WE do a disservice to people if we get them to trust in something that will not be there to solve their problems or answer their question. We need Science AND Religion and if we get to much of one and not enough of the other then we are going to get out of balance and be unstable.
 
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If Troy is a real city then that increases the chance that that the rest of the story about Troy is true. I believe that there really was a Helen of troy and her boyfriend and husband fought a battle for her.

Does this also mean that Achilles was the son of a goddess and a human king?

Does this also mean that the entire Greek pantheon of gods is real, simply because we find a city mentioned in a story?


If you were raised on science then you should know that one true statement does not make all following statements true. Basic concept in science. All claims must be judged independently.
 
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Your loss not mine. I gave you the evidence and what you do with it is up to you. It has no effect on me. We are only to deliver the message, what you do with it is up to you. I can not make your choice for you. It is up to you to choose and make all your own decisions in life. Whatever the results whatever the consequences it is all up to you.

Eze3: …17"Son of man, I have appointed you a watchman to the house of Israel; whenever you hear a word from My mouth, warn them from Me. 18"When I say to the wicked, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand.19"Yet if you have warned the wicked and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but you have delivered yourself.…
 
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Maybe you need to review, what "scientific evidence" means.
 
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I think I would understand it just fine, which is a problem for you.
You understand? Ok good, then explain this to me:

"The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." 34Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '?35"If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)",…John 10
 
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It is explained as your attempt at rationalizing your faith based beliefs. You try to act as if you have evidence in order to rationalize the irrational. When asked for the evidence, you make excuses for not having that evidence.
 
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When asked for the evidence, you make excuses for not having that evidence.
I presented evidence that proves the Bible to be true beyond any doubt. Even you do not deny the evidence and you do not deny what science can verify to be true in regard to the Bible. You do not have evidence for everything in science so you can not hold the Bible to a higher standard then you yourself follow. What is good for one is good for the other. No double standards are allowed. Science has limits. You want scientific evidence but you can not blame me for the limits of science. Remember GOD has the answer for every question and the solution for every problem, NOT Science.

Science does not deny faith or what faith can accomplish. They understand the power of positive thinking. Science understands the placebo effect. Science understands the power of suggestion. These are all scientific beliefs that are based on faith. If you reject religion then you have to reject science. If you reject science then you have to reject religion. You can not have one or the other, you have to accept both or none. God reveals Himself through the Bible and God reveals Himself through Science.
 
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I presented evidence that proves the Bible to be true beyond any doubt.

No, you didn't.

Science has limits. You want scientific evidence but you can not blame me for the limits of science.

You are the one who claims you have scientific evidence. You are the one who is making the claim that science can prove what Genesis claims.

If this isn't the case, then stop claiming you have evidence. Just tell us the truth, that it is something you believe on faith.

Remember GOD has the answer for every question and the solution for every problem, NOT Science.

How can I remember something that you can't demonstrate ever happened?


You are the one claiming you have evidence. Let's see it.
 
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