sub or dub

[SAint Mark]

I don't think the Japanese writing system is all that difficult (excluding the kanji). From what I've understood so far once you learn hiragna it's pretty straight forward. Think their pronounciation makes sence. They have a lot of sounds common with Finnish, my native tounge .

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Finnish? ok......are you sure?.....Scandivavia is not close to Japan at all.......I always thought Finnish was more like German and Polish.......

 

[Ghost23]

well im assuming you mean the dubbing for anime as apposed to an asian film with american or british dubs. i like the dubs as apposed to the subs. mostly because i get bored with the japanese voices.

 

[Sheseala]

Odd tidbit: People who have Spanish as their first language almost have no accent when speaking Japanese.

 

[SAint Mark]

Finnish? ok......are you sure?.....Scandivavia is not close to Japan at all.......I always thought Finnish was more like German and Polish.......

Way wrong (although a commen misteka ), Finnish is in no way related to the rest of the scandinavic languages. It is not even a germanic language. I'll look up which language tree it belonged too (not too sure on the English term). It is not related to Japanese either but the sound system has more in common with Japanse than the germanic languages I've had experience with. I find pronouncing Japanese very easy although I'm just starting to study the language (on my spare time ).

 

[SAint Mark]

Odd tidbit: People who have Spanish as their first language almost have no accent when speaking Japanese.

I hear they have that wierd sound that is something between an "l" and an "r" in Spanish. I'm a bit envious, that's the one sound I can't get right!

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Way wrong (although a commen misteka ), Finnish is in no way related to the rest of the scandinavic languages. It is not even a germanic language. I'll look up which language tree it belonged too (not too sure on the English term). It is not related to Japanese either but the sound system has more in common with Japanse than the germanic languages I've had experience with. I find pronouncing Japanese very easy although I'm just starting to study the language (on my spare time ).

This is all I could find: Finnish belongs to the Finno-Ugrian group of languages. This language group is spoken in a region that extends from Norway into Siberia and the Carpathian Mountains, and it includes the Hungarian and Estonian languages.

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

I hear they have that wierd sound that is something between an "l" and an "r" in Spanish. I'm a bit envious, that's the one sound I can't get right!

Oo, I have heard of this also. From what I have learned it is made the same as the Spanish or German "r" but instead of rolling the tounge it is simply touched to the top of the mouth but I always roll. O well, I stopped studying Japanese.

[EDIT] I searched further and found that Finnish is not part of the Indo-European language group. That is the group that includes German, English, Greek, Spanish, French, Italian, Gaelic, Swedish and MANY more. Also, if you like Japanese listen to my sound profile (click the speaker).

 

[SAint Mark]

This is all I could find: Finnish belongs to the Finno-Ugrian group of languages. This language group is spoken in a region that extends from Norway into Siberia and the Carpathian Mountains, and it includes the Hungarian and Estonian languages.

"Finno-Ugrian"! That's the word I was looking for! Thanks. Your findings are accurate, although I didn't know that they spoke any language bellonging to the Finno-Ugrian group in Norway. Must be a really small minority, same for the country where I live: Sweden.

Stupid fact, Finland is mentioned in two anime series I know of. Ai Yori Aoshi and Mahoromatic (either 1st or 2nd season... dunno)

 

[ozanaki tori]

indo-european history freaks me out.

also, if it extends into russia, i wouldn't doubt if it does have the same ancestoral roots.

remember, india and europe are no where near each other, but tell that to aryan ancestors!

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

OT, I have no idea what you are trying to say....

 

[ozanaki tori]

You said Finnland and Japan were so far apart, and I was merely pointing out that the countries of indo-european language tree are not so close together.

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Acctually they are almost all in Europe or the Middle East which are very close to each other.

 

[Tranc3nder]

Well, getting right back on the subject, I must say I prefer EXCELLENT english voice actors, over mediocre subtitles. But if its a Fansub, done right, then I'll take it over most english dubbings.

Fansubs - the ultimate in anime appreciation

 

[Alice the Sister]

Sub


Dubs are too annoying.


Authenticity shouldn't be sacrifced for 'comfort'....If it's good, it's good. Don't try to change it.

 

[Qyöt27]

I prefer dubs to subs, unless there's no other way to watch it. I get eye strain too easily from reading all the subtitles, and I actually like most of the dubs I've heard (quite a number). Really the only problems I'll have with dubbed versions are where one or two of the English actors don't seem to fit the character, or switch actors halfway through the series (especially if the new voice is really different from the old voice, or vice-versa). The only one that I've watched that I think the English dub was absolutely horrible on was Weiß Kreuz, more on account of bad acting than anything else, since their English voices did fit somewhat, IMO; it just needed better acting (but the outtakes are hilarious).

 

[SAint Mark]

I must say I prefer EXCELLENT english voice actors

No such thing . I've seen one or two good dubs but zero excellent ones

 

[Moresco]

Well, if I had to choose between the two I'd say dubs because I don't watch a movie to read...

However, I must say I prefer the japanese just because I understand it quite well. I would also say that it is not true that japanese is hard yet bare in mind that the least amount of kanji that most japanese know is somewhere around 1500. Literacy mark is closer to 25,000. That's quite a bit and it is my opinion that kanji makes it extremely easy on the reader. Katakana is also used for made up words very often. It is something you should know if you are watching anime in japan language because if not you will be lost. Peace!

-Moresco
moresco.sytes.net

 

[Merlaz Nija]

(( Subbed all the way.. Oo; Dubs are SO annoying.. it's so censored and.. ICK. @@; ))

 

[Qyöt27]

(( Subbed all the way.. Oo; Dubs are SO annoying.. it's so censored and.. ICK. @@; ))

What do you mean, dubs are censored? The only censored dubs that get shown are the ones aired on Cartoon Network and such...straight dubs usually are translated directly from the Japanese, which by the way, doesn't necessarily translate perfectly into English. So a lot of it is best fit (so some things that could possibly be offensive may have their meanings lost on the English speakers). True, some early American releases were censored (i.e. Sailor Moon), but that trend has long since passed. Nowadays, the DVD release is fully uncensored for most purposes (unless the company wants to do a special "limited edition" uncensored release a la Inuyasha's first nine episodes) and if it gets shown on TV then it gets censored. The case of the English translators censoring the dubs for the sake of children (the original reason for censoring anime) is a rare one now. English has a different speech flow, so with certain lines, profanities that would be the closest approximation of the Japanese wouldn't sound right in the context of the translated sentence (so it gets replaced by something that sounds better against the rest of the sentence), not to mention that the translators have to accomodate the mouth movements in the show so that extra work isn't needed to correct the accuracy of the dub.