sub or dub

[Asur]

Which do you prefer in general and why?

I prefer sub as English voice actors almost always tend to be worse than the Japanese voice actors. I especially don't like watching a dub if I've watched a lot of the sub recently as I tend to associate the voice with the character and when the voice changes I find it irritating

 

[Marth]

subs all the way. like you said dubs voice actors are horrible for the parts.

 

[taboo]

I suppose the best thing to do is learn Japanese. *grabs textbook* ^_~

 

[SAint Mark]

I think there's a thread like this already lying around... But in any case, subs! With one or two exceptions. Cowboy Bebop (haven't actually seen the dub but it's supposed to be really good) and Ranma ½.

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Are you smoking? Japanese is frikin' hard! The don't even have a phenetic alphabet! Anyway, I prefer dubbed because I dislike reading and can only speak English, German and a tiny amount of Japanese.

 

[ozanaki tori]

It's not THAT hard.
I actually find their simple constonant-vowel set up quite pleasing.

I prefer subs to dubs.
There are some really good dubs out there, though. Cowboy Bebop, FLCL, Blood..

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Have you seen the characters with 15+ strokes? The spoken languages is not difficult especially scince their grammar is not strict but the written language is VERY difficult.

 

[Blessed-one]

definitely subs.

 

[ozanaki tori]

Kanji is not particularly needed. The kana character sets are very simple (i actually read katakana. well, i am really rusty now, but i used to be good at reading it), and they can be used in place of kanji.
Most japanese do not know all that much kanji.
In most stuff for young people the kanji has the hiragana above/under it for ease of reading.

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

I know that kana is semi-phenetic but there are still about 80 of them. 40 in katankana and another 40 in hirogana. So........

 

[ozanaki tori]

Not quite. katakana is only used for names and loan-words. Hiragana is used extensively, and katakana only here or there. They're very simple to learn to recognise, if you just write them while saying the vocal counter part.
Write each one a dozen times and you're set to go.

 

[ozanaki tori]

What I mean is, katakana isn't all that important in terms of speaking japanese - though it is important for learning to understand japanese.

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

I know about Japanese. I studied it for a while but remember none of it. Katakana is used only for foriegn names (Smith, Deem, Johnson, etc...) and words borrowed from foriegn languages (rifle is the only example I can think of). Hirogana is used (in proper Japanese) for particles and other things like that and Kanji is used for native Japanese words. Also, I just noticed you already posted that so, I guess this doesn't prove much but I have tried remembering the symbols but I always confuse the pronunciations, meaning, I would pronounce the symbol for shi as so, or another symbol. Anyway, the point is all three of the alphbets used are important to learn because all three of the alphabets are used in a correctly composed sentence.

 

[ozanaki tori]

Mostly I agree.
I have a really good memory, so the symbols aren't much of a problem for me. I actually prefer the constonant-vowel set up.

Hiragana is also used for native words for young people.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, hiragana was used long before kanji - as kanji is borrowed from the chinese. i'm not sure, though.

I'm wondering if maybe your problem with remembering japanese is the way you were taught it?

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

The Japanese did not have a writting system before they adopted the Chinese one, so, Hiragana did not come long before Kanji. The reason I know this is it was in one of the books I tried to learn Japanese from. I was trying to teach myself the symbols so.....maybe.

 

[ozanaki tori]

Hmm..I could have sworn the hiragana was japan's original before kanji. But that was more just a supposition.

 

[armed2010]

I prefer sub most of the time, because most dubbings on anime are awful. One VERY good example is the Love Hina dub. Its horrendous, espescially the horribly exagerated southern US texan slang that they have Kitsune speaking. There are some good dubs however, such as Cowboy Bebop and .hack//sign, which I prefer listening to instead of the dubbed.

 

[tulc]

Subs baby! Just got done watching Juon1 and 2. Ever watch it?
tulc

 

[Marth]

er i just bought a mag called new type and it had a dvd of nuku nuku in it. the subs were soooooooooo much better they actually made the show look good and the voices were cool too. then came the dub *shudders* nuku nuku's voice was sooooo deep it was freaky and most of the words didnt match the subs

 

[NiemandheißtBoshaftigkeit]

Hmm..I could have sworn the hiragana was japan's original before kanji. But that was more just a supposition.

Nope. No writing system before they adopted Chinese.