"study The Scripture"

[pilgrimage]

I really like that this thread is about what God says and not about human disbelief. JFRYI that's not flattery.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Thank you for all the posts

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Just to quick catch up on our last study:
Study 5 Genesis 7:1-8:19
Noah
1) What was God's part in Noah's salvation, and what was Noah's? Cf. Eph 2:8; Phil 2:12-13; 1 Pet 1:5
God gave the gift through faith.And Noah pleased God. I think he learned from his heritage how to do that.
Noah was the "but" to change the age. The whole world had gone wrong "but Noah found grace" like the nation all went into slavery "but Daniel"

2) In the ark Noah wasn't saved from being affected by the Flood at all, but he was brought safely thru it. Cf. " saved thru the water", 1 Pet 3:20. In what similar way does the gospel of Christ offer us salvation from God's judgement upon sin?
If we please Him He's faithful to bring us thru.
I heard a funny story to the effect of "God didn't put Noah along the side of the ark and told him to hang on, but placed him safely inside and He closed the door that only He could open.

I'm looking forward to hearing your comments. Still achy from the flu even with the Bragg's apple cider viniger that someone suggested Hope to be more lively soon.

 

[Rut]

Can I join or is it to late?

 

[Sennaria]

Can I join or is it to late?

Join Join oh please do join!!


Sennaria

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Of course, Rut, love to have you here. It's really kindof at the beginning.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Alright, we made it to the stickies

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Just to quick catch up on our last study:
Study 5 Genesis 7:1-8:19
Noah
1) What was God's part in Noah's salvation, and what was Noah's? Cf. Eph 2:8; Phil 2:12-13; 1 Pet 1:5
God gave the gift through faith.And Noah pleased God. I think he learned from his heritage how to do that.
Noah was the "but" to change the age. The whole world had gone wrong "but Noah found grace" like the nation all went into slavery "but Daniel"

2) In the ark Noah wasn't saved from being affected by the Flood at all, but he was brought safely thru it. Cf. " saved thru the water", 1 Pet 3:20. In what similar way does the gospel of Christ offer us salvation from God's judgement upon sin?
If we please Him He's faithful to bring us thru.
I heard a funny story to the effect of "God didn't put Noah along the side of the ark and told him to hang on, but placed him safely inside and He closed the door that only He could open.

I'm looking forward to hearing your comments. Still achy from the flu even with the Bragg's apple cider viniger that someone suggested Hope to be more lively soon.

bump

 

[Sennaria]

Just to quick catch up on our last study:
Study 5 Genesis 7:1-8:19
Noah
1) What was God's part in Noah's salvation, and what was Noah's? Cf. Eph 2:8; Phil 2:12-13; 1 Pet 1:5
God gave the gift through faith.And Noah pleased God. I think he learned from his heritage how to do that.
Noah was the "but" to change the age. The whole world had gone wrong "but Noah found grace" like the nation all went into slavery "but Daniel"

2) In the ark Noah wasn't saved from being affected by the Flood at all, but he was brought safely thru it. Cf. " saved thru the water", 1 Pet 3:20. In what similar way does the gospel of Christ offer us salvation from God's judgement upon sin?
If we please Him He's faithful to bring us thru.
I heard a funny story to the effect of "God didn't put Noah along the side of the ark and told him to hang on, but placed him safely inside and He closed the door that only He could open.

I'm looking forward to hearing your comments. Still achy from the flu even with the Bragg's apple cider viniger that someone suggested Hope to be more lively soon.

Ok here's my stab at it.......specifically 2) Just like Noah still had to endure the flood, but the Lord brought him safely through it....we have the offer of salvation, the Lord can safely bring us through whatever the consequences of our sin may bring. In other words, the repercussions of a horrific sin or any sin may not just "go away" we may have to go through some strife and consequences of it, but if we have turned to God and accepted Christ's gift of salvation, He will make a way for us to get through the consequences safely. It is not a "free pass" from sin, but a forgiveness of sin.

 

[pilgrimage]

Just to quick catch up on our last study:
Study 5 Genesis 7:1-8:19
Noah
1) What was God's part in Noah's salvation, and what was Noah's? Cf. Eph 2:8; Phil 2:12-13; 1 Pet 1:5
God gave the gift through faith.And Noah pleased God. I think he learned from his heritage how to do that.
Noah was the "but" to change the age. The whole world had gone wrong "but Noah found grace" like the nation all went into slavery "but Daniel"

2) In the ark Noah wasn't saved from being affected by the Flood at all, but he was brought safely thru it. Cf. " saved thru the water", 1 Pet 3:20. In what similar way does the gospel of Christ offer us salvation from God's judgement upon sin?
If we please Him He's faithful to bring us thru.
I heard a funny story to the effect of "God didn't put Noah along the side of the ark and told him to hang on, but placed him safely inside and He closed the door that only He could open.

I'm looking forward to hearing your comments. Still achy from the flu even with the Bragg's apple cider viniger that someone suggested Hope to be more lively soon.

God found one person in the world to carry on his plans to reddeem the whole race, that's amazing that he even thought that would work. I mean, Satan's doing his best to get them all on his side and God keeps starting again with only one person. But I guess his part is that he's good for his promises and Noah just trusted him. But why only one person, there must have been alot that heard about Enoch or the ones who walked with God, where did they all go? And why wasn't God talking to them?

ps, those are my thoughts on it. I know it's not a debate forum As much as I love debating it's nice to relax too, and also I know you like debating too, livin, for I've read you on the forums many times, heh, so it's good to compare notes. Congrads on the sticky!

 

[Rut]

Just to quick catch up on our last study:
Study 5 Genesis 7:1-8:19
Noah
1) What was God's part in Noah's salvation, and what was Noah's? Cf. Eph 2:8; Phil 2:12-13; 1 Pet 1:5
God gave the gift through faith.And Noah pleased God. I think he learned from his heritage how to do that.
Noah was the "but" to change the age. The whole world had gone wrong "but Noah found grace" like the nation all went into slavery "but Daniel"

2) In the ark Noah wasn't saved from being affected by the Flood at all, but he was brought safely thru it. Cf. " saved thru the water", 1 Pet 3:20. In what similar way does the gospel of Christ offer us salvation from God's judgement upon sin?
If we please Him He's faithful to bring us thru.
I heard a funny story to the effect of "God didn't put Noah along the side of the ark and told him to hang on, but placed him safely inside and He closed the door that only He could open.

I'm looking forward to hearing your comments. Still achy from the flu even with the Bragg's apple cider viniger that someone suggested Hope to be more lively soon.

1. God worked with Noah as he said that Noah should build a boat.God saw that Noah and his family was a good humans so of grace God worked with them.Noah follwed what God said in every little detail Genesis 6:22

2: We can be saved throu the water too that mean the baptise

 

[guinnerdbabe]

Hi,
This is an awesome thread that you have. I came across it and am absolutely inspired by it. It makes me want to study The Bible more and more! Thanks. Keep up the great work! I have started the study's and would like to catch up with everyone, but I don't want to rush it. I've decided that I will do the daily studies and in my own private time or when time permits I will do the other studies!! Thanks again.

Leah

 

[abigale]

Hi,
This is an awesome thread that you have. I came across it and am absolutely inspired by it. It makes me want to study The Bible more and more! Thanks. Keep up the great work! I have started the study's and would like to catch up with everyone, but I don't want to rush it. I've decided that I will do the daily studies and in my own private time or when time permits I will do the other studies!! Thanks again.

Leah

Welcome to the forums. I'm looking forward to your contributions on the study.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

great comments!

What is baptism? I think the outward form is identifying and going thru the ritual of Jesus' death while the actual thing is daily the taking up the way of the cross and following Jesus' example way of living. Jesus breathed the Spirit onto the disciples but they went back to there old ways of life on the fishboats. When He called them again to eat with Him He said " Do you love Me, feed my sheep" and after that time they recieved the fire of the Holy Spirit. 2 kinds of baptism.
God's condemned this world also and so we're warned to get out from it too but still we're very much planted in it. Noah was born into it just as we are. Baptism by water. The flood, the Red Sea, the brass laver were all the means of passing threw to God and leaving the dead things behind.
2 Timothy 2:4
No one going as a soldier entangles himself with the affairs of life, that he may please him who has enlisted him as a soldier.

Who were the sons of God? Were they all killed in the flood or in the Red Sea when Israel was brought out of Egypt (assuming that's another form of judgement/baptism)? And yet there were giants in the promised land yet to be killed ( I see those as our giants in our own life that need to be defeated before we can come to rest in Him) This all just facinates me.
Genesis 6:4-5
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.
Jude 1:6-7
6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
2 Pet 2:4,5;9,10
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; 5if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment. 10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority.
Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.


This I find very curious, I don't know if it speaks only of angels or humans that aren't following God's ways or what.
Jude 1:6
6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home
1 Pet 2:10 The Lord knows how to rescue those who are godly while continueing to punish the unrighteous...this is especially true of those who .... despise authority.

(the full verses are just above) anybody?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

So to summerize this very important section, the way I understand it, there we have the first (and last)order of things. Representing and expressing God comes full circle from the old Adam to the new Adam thru blood, water and fire. I hope everybody's not sic of hearing me yet ( it'll come) but I really wanted to say all that. *puts soapbox away*

Study 6 Gen 8:20-9:29
God's Covenant With Noah
The Sons of Noah

1) What did Noah's alter and burnt offerings signify? To what would they correspond in our lives today? Cf. Rom. 12:1; Heb. 13:15-16.

2)Reflect on Noah's position after the deluge. In what ways did God encourage him?

3) What makes human life supremely precious? What kind of penalty is here ordained for the murderer?

4) What can we learn here concerning the place and manner of covenent making? Can you think of other visible tokens and pledges which seal covenents?

Note. 9:13
This doesn't imply that the rainbow was now seen for the first time, but that God now made it a token of His covenent of promise to Noah.

 

[Sennaria]

See comments within quote, I think it'll be easier.

Who were the sons of God? I've been curious about that myself and did some studying and myself, I rather lean to the thought that they were not angels as I have wondered and others have also, as angels are not inclined to lust, they cannot propogate, or regenerate, angels are incorporeal beings and are not affected by fleshly desires. But rather that this was the posterity of Seth - Gen 4:25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bore a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. and those of Seth and those of the line of Cain were not to mix....Seth's family had moved up the mountain where Adam was lain and some did come down the mountain and mixed with the line of Cain and thus the sins became universal, causing the Lord to bring the flood.
Were they all killed in the flood or in the Red Sea when Israel was brought out of Egypt (assuming that's another form of judgement/baptism)? And yet there were giants in the promised land yet to be killed ( I see those as our giants in our own life that need to be defeated before we can come to rest in Him) This all just facinates me. You are right, this is very fascinating.......and I agree, I can see the giants as the things that need to be defeated in our own lives!
Genesis 6:4-5
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God (Seth's lineage)went to the daughters of men (Cain's lineage) and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.
5 The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

Jude 1:6-7
6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
I think its amazing, how man, thinks he can do things without God seeing, when God even sees when His angels had fallen. Look at Satan, He was one of God's most glorious of angels, he was beautiful, played music for God, yet his vanity got the best of him, and man thinks that God won't see ours?

2 Pet 2:4,5;9,10
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; 5if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment. I think this is both a promise for His children and a warning for those who aren't His children. He sees all and shall punish all, but for those who are His children, we shall be spared, all because He gave His son to die for us on a cross. Something so simple, yet made so complicated by man.
10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority.

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
In this one I think its truly angels....His heavenly creations, our helpers and Satan tried to sneak in because He is so vain thinking the Lord would not know, but in speaking to Him, we can see that, of course, our omniscient Lord knew that Satan was there and chided him for it. Can you just envision what it must be like, our Lord and a roomful of angels???? One day we shall see it for ourselves.
This I find very curious, I don't know if it speaks only of angels or humans that aren't following God's ways or what.

Jude 1:6
6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home
1 Pet 2:10 The Lord knows how to rescue those who are godly while continueing to punish the unrighteous...this is especially true of those who .... despise authority.
The Lord is so good, that He tries to pound in to our hard heads that HE will take care of those who are ungodly as well as taking care of those who are His children. We so often forget that He addresses this on many occasions and in many different ways.

(the full verses are just above) anybody?

This is a fantastic study!! I look forward to the discussion, its very deep and thought provoking.

Sennaria

 

[Sennaria]

Again, within the post for ease.....

So to summerize this very important section, the way I understand it, there we have the first (and last)order of things. Representing and expressing God comes full circle from the old Adam to the new Adam thru blood, water and fire. I hope everybody's not sic of hearing me yet ( it'll come) but I really wanted to say all that. *puts soapbox away* I completely agree and don't don't put the soapbox away, you say very thought provoking things!! I'm so enjoying this study

Study 6 Gen 8:20-9:29
God's Covenant With Noah
The Sons of Noah

1) What did Noah's alter and burnt offerings signify? To what would they correspond in our lives today? Cf. Rom. 12:1; Heb. 13:15-16.
Ourselves, our bodies, for Him to use and work through.....and also the sacrifices of praise and Thanksgiving that we offer up to Him.


2)Reflect on Noah's position after the deluge. In what ways did God encourage him? Noah and his family were now completely alone on the earth. It had to have been very scary in many ways. He encouraged him by making a covenant with him, by giving him a sign to remember that covenant, that He would never again wipe out the earth, and he blessed Noah greatly by multiplying his family, his things.

3) What makes human life supremely precious? Each and every human life was created by God., no exception. What kind of penalty is here ordained for the murderer?Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.


4) What can we learn here concerning the place and manner of covenent making? Making a covenant with God is a very serious manner and is not something that should ever be done lightly. Can you think of other visible tokens and pledges which seal covenents? Covenant of circumcision with Abraham and the covenant at Mount Sinai with Israel,

Note. 9:13
This doesn't imply that the rainbow was now seen for the first time, but that God now made it a token of His covenent of promise to Noah.

Sennaria

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

It's great that your so passionate about the Lord, Sennaria, I can't imagine a better passtime. I think that in the Day of the Lord, after the rapture and before the supper, while He's giving out rewards, He's going to sit us all down and sort out the tangled gospel so that the truths that we all hold will no longer be seen as thru cloudy glass but all will become clear. And I think He has distributed all of the truth to everyone so none of it will ever be forgotten. Thank you for sharing.

 

[Sennaria]

It's great that your so passionate about the Lord, Sennaria, I can't imagine a better passtime. I think that in the Day of the Lord, after the rapture and before the supper, while He's giving out rewards, He's going to sit us all down and sort out the tangled gospel so that the truths that we all hold will no longer be seen as thru cloudy glass but all will become clear. And I think He has distributed all of the truth to everyone so none of it will ever be forgotten. Thank you for sharing.

Won't that just be fantastic!! That everything that we discuss now, and wonder about, at that time, will be so clear?? And you are so right, He has to have distributed all of the truth all around, because I know if I knew it all, my mind wouldn't hold it.......and also....we come from so many scenarios and are in so many different situations....His Word, His Truth is Alive.....it takes us all to see it.......you know, like when you read a scripture verse one year and it so speaks to you, then you read it say a year later...and you gleam something else from that same scripture??

God is too good!

Sennaria

 

[guinnerdbabe]

Study 6 Gen 8:20-9:29
God's Covenant With Noah
The Sons of Noah

1) What did Noah's alter and burnt offerings signify? To what would they correspond in our lives today? Cf. Rom. 12:1; Heb. 13:15-16.
I know someone else had mentioned this as well, but I got from it that it mean an offering of our body as a living sacrifce, as well as a sacrifice of praise and worship. It also represented something holy and pleasing to God.


2)Reflect on Noah's position after the deluge. In what ways did God encourage him?
I agree with that Noah and his family were probaly a bit overwhelmed at being the only people upon the earth. They also had no vegetation to eat from, and from the sounds of it, meat was not an open market back then. But low and behold God blessed them and encouraged them to "Be fruitful and increase in numbers and fill the earth." He gave them permission to eat meat as long as it had no lifeblood it in. To me this was a transition into another very important lesson followed in the next questions.

3) What makes human life supremely precious? What kind of penalty is here ordained for the murderer?

The fact that we have been given "lifeblood" by God and no two of us are the same, even identical twins differ in some way or other. A murderer should be held accountable for his actions and suffer the consequenses (Spelling?) A lot of people use this passage as a defense for Capital Punishment. But I must say that yes this is the word of God, but it is also before the new covenant or the promise made to us by Jesus's death. What about forgiveness?? Where does it lie in this passage? I still get frustrated on what I should believe about Cap. Pun. I like that this study was given and I have found it for it gives me much to contemplate.

4) What can we learn here concerning the place and manner of covenent making? Can you think of other visible tokens and pledges which seal covenents?

Note. 9:13
I'm not sure what we can learn, but I do have a few things to say on covenants. There should be a reverence and respect for life and soul when a covenant is being made. We also must remember that a covenant is a promise made between God and his people. I'm sure there are many visible tokens representing the seal of a covenant. The ones that come to my mind are the cross and the partaking of communion. In Moses' time the sprinkling of the Lamb's Blood represented the old covenant. This represented that the people promised they would follow God's Commandments completely. In order to follow them completely one would have to be perfect and without sin. We all know this to be un true of most humans. Therefore the second covenant was made when Jesus Died upon the cross. There for Jesus' blood seals the second covenant giving us eternal life to those who proclaim Jesus as their savior. This is why sometimes Jesus is referred to as the Lamb.

Sorry if this was off the topic of Noah. Thank you for listening to me

Thanks again,

Leah

Hmm.. an error keeps coming up saying that my message is short by 1, but then I add one and it still says that. So if you are wondering what I am doing, I'm trying to fill in so that my message will be post, because I worked long and hard on this one! I wonder why it keeps doing this to me. Is there a word or character limit on here? I would appreciate it if someone could let me know. Okay I think I know what I did wrong.

This doesn't imply that the rainbow was now seen for the first time, but that God now made it a token of His covenent of promise to Noah.