"study The Scripture"

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

I love reading these posts. The only other covenent I can think of is the marraige covenent.

If you put things in quotes then you need to post at least one letter outside of the quote or it won't post, but i think you may have found that out.

Thanks so much to everyone who shares, it makes it so much fun. 's all aruond. Sorry if that's too sappy for anyone.

 

[Sennaria]

Study 6 Gen 8:20-9:29
God's Covenant With Noah
The Sons of Noah

3) What makes human life supremely precious? What kind of penalty is here ordained for the murderer?

The fact that we have been given "lifeblood" by God and no two of us are the same, even identical twins differ in some way or other. A murderer should be held accountable for his actions and suffer the consequenses (Spelling?) A lot of people use this passage as a defense for Capital Punishment. But I must say that yes this is the word of God, but it is also before the new covenant or the promise made to us by Jesus's death. What about forgiveness?? Where does it lie in this passage? I still get frustrated on what I should believe about Cap. Pun. I like that this study was given and I have found it for it gives me much to contemplate.
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I get confuzzled over capital punishment myself, I for the most part am for capital punishment, and yes, this verse does back that up, we can forgive the person, as we should, (an extremely hard thing to do in a situation like that and we definitely need God's grace and love to do so), but forgiving does not mean that the person is not deserving of capital punishment.
Then the "Thou shall not kill" commandment comes in.......and "vengence is mine sayeth the Lord"...and the confuzzles start up again. I think this may be one of those gray areas that truly don't get answered until we get to heaven, for me anyway. Now, I do know with no doubt that we should NEVER take the law into our own hands and kill a person who killed someone, that would be wrong in God's eyes I firmly believe. It should always be done through the justice system.

Sennaria

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

I'm very concerned that this thread never gets turned into a debate of who's opinion is the correct veiw. The only way to do that is to keep within each there own w/o giving merit or disputing the other. Each give an opinion and any debate on any subject can be carried on in the debate forums. I have to be very clear on this b/c the line is so fine and gets out of control easily. Not that that's the intent but we never know how people take things. Thanx.

edit just to add that I'm not directing this statement at anything said here, but pilgrimage (bless her heart) is very correct in saying that I like to debate and can easily get into argueing points. But here I was looking for a safe place for all to come to express their thoughts on each study w/o the feeling they may be contradicted. After all, truth (reality) is in the experience of Christ as He presents Himself to us as individuals. noi.. we agree and disagree as we all read each post anyway and that's the whole point is to come to our own conclusions.

I will probably repost this as needed b/c if I can restrain from debating..well...

 

[abigale]

 

[guinnerdbabe]

That's A Cute Cartoon.

Also, it's good that you are here to remind us of these things LivinforChrist. Because it is easy to get caught up in opinions and emotions and it would deter from the true goal of joining one and all for a common cause: studying the word of the Bible given to us by God, our Lord, and Creator.

Leah

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Study 7 Gen 10:1-11:9
The Table of Nations
The Tower of Babel

1) What does Gen 10 teach us of the origins of the nations and about their relationship to one another and to God? Cf. Acts 17:26; Rom 3:29.

2) See 11:1-9. What was wrong with the attitude and activity of these men? What kind of judgement does God bring on those who seek supposed success in their way rather than in His way? See Ps. 2:1-4; Lk 11:23; cf. Gn 3:22-24; Is. 14:12-15; contrast Jn 11:49-52, esp. verse 52

 

[Rut]

So to summerize this very important section, the way I understand it, there we have the first (and last)order of things. Representing and expressing God comes full circle from the old Adam to the new Adam thru blood, water and fire. I hope everybody's not sic of hearing me yet ( it'll come) but I really wanted to say all that. *puts soapbox away*

Study 6 Gen 8:20-9:29
God's Covenant With Noah
The Sons of Noah

1) What did Noah's alter and burnt offerings signify? To what would they correspond in our lives today? Cf. Rom. 12:1; Heb. 13:15-16.

That God should never kill all human being on earth again.We shall think of how we use our body and ourself in Gods service.Our body is holy so we shall not durty the body with for example drugs etc

2)Reflect on Noah's position after the deluge. In what ways did God encourage him?

God promise him to never curse the earth again and he should never kill everything that are in life again.To show Noah that he sat the rainbow over the sky

3) What makes human life supremely precious? What kind of penalty is here ordained for the murderer?


4) What can we learn here concerning the place and manner of covenent making? Can you think of other visible tokens and pledges which seal covenents?

circumcise, I think we can say the baptising too.When we baptise people look when we do that

Note. 9:13

This doesn't imply that the rainbow was now seen for the first time, but that God now made it a token of His covenent of promise to Noah

One question I thought that was first time the rainbow was on the sky.That have been first time that have rained on the earth and the rainbow coming when after a rain.God said too that he set his bow over the sky.So that must been something new.I get that feeling Why do You think that wasn`t the first time?

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

So to summerize this very important section, the way I understand it, there we have the first (and last)order of things. Representing and expressing God comes full circle from the old Adam to the new Adam thru blood, water and fire. I hope everybody's not sic of hearing me yet ( it'll come) but I really wanted to say all that. *puts soapbox away*

Study 6 Gen 8:20-9:29
God's Covenant With Noah
The Sons of Noah

1) What did Noah's alter and burnt offerings signify? To what would they correspond in our lives today? Cf. Rom. 12:1; Heb. 13:15-16.

That God should never kill all human being on earth again.We shall think of how we use our body and ourself in Gods service.Our body is holy so we shall not durty the body with for example drugs etc

2)Reflect on Noah's position after the deluge. In what ways did God encourage him?

God promise him to never curse the earth again and he should never kill everything that are in life again.To show Noah that he sat the rainbow over the sky

3) What makes human life supremely precious? What kind of penalty is here ordained for the murderer?


4) What can we learn here concerning the place and manner of covenent making? Can you think of other visible tokens and pledges which seal covenents?

circumcise, I think we can say the baptising too.When we baptise people look when we do that

Note. 9:13

This doesn't imply that the rainbow was now seen for the first time, but that God now made it a token of His covenent of promise to Noah

One question I thought that was first time the rainbow was on the sky.That have been first time that have rained on the earth and the rainbow coming when after a rain.God said too that he set his bow over the sky.So that must been something new.I get that feeling Why do You think that wasn`t the first time?

That really make sence about the rainbow. All the question parts are right out of the book so I don't know why they think that.

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

As I'm waiting for thr defrag so I can get some sleep I just wanted to add that the book we're working from has only just the study as I have posted it. Questions with no answers..and that's all that's in the book. The only thing I've added to the question part is the subtitles under the study number and verses.. but the questions are as written. I'll sometimes add a little note in the same post but hopefully that's easy to distinguish. It's a great study and I love that this gets me really into it. Well. g'night. The defrag should be done by now.

 

[pilgrimage]

Study 7 Gen 10:1-11:9
The Table of Nations
The Tower of Babel

1) What does Gen 10 teach us of the origins of the nations and about their relationship to one another and to God? Cf. Acts 17:26; Rom 3:29.

2) See 11:1-9. What was wrong with the attitude and activity of these men? What kind of judgement does God bring on those who seek supposed success in their way rather than in His way? See Ps. 2:1-4; Lk 11:23; cf. Gn 3:22-24; Is. 14:12-15; contrast Jn 11:49-52, esp. verse 52

From the references given
Psalm 2
1 Why do the nations conspire [a]
and the peoples plot in vain?
2 The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together
against the LORD
and against his Anointed One.
3 "Let us break their chains," they say,
"and throw off their fetters."
4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord scoffs at them.

Luke 11:23
23"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me, scatters.

Genesis 3:22-24
22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side [a] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Isaiah 14:12-15
12 How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
13 You said in your heart,
"I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. [a]
14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High."
15 But you are brought down to the grave,
to the depths of the pit.

contrast
John 11:49-52
49Then one of them, named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, "You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people than that the whole nation perish."
51He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, 52and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one.

it seems to show another pattern where God confused the nation Israel by scattering them again. The prophesies would indicate that He's in the process of bringing it all back together.

 

[Sennaria]

I just wanted to apologize if anything I said was taken as debating *ponder* or if I should not comment on another's post when a question is asked, as I do now see how it can lead to a discussion that should be taken to another thread. I'm not a debater, and only meant to show that I also, was unclear on that topic as a means of support to another.



Sennaria

 

[abigale]

I think what may have been meant was not to dwell on the trivia. The thread moves fast so there's much to see and we shouldn't clutter the thread with personal discussions but only stick to what God says and not what we think. Or we may miss vital things like what pilgrimage just said.

 

[guinnerdbabe]

I agree, while questions and thoughts should not be ignored, we should not dwell on things that cannot be answered. It is good to move on and grow and learn through the word of God. Okay, I'll stop now, because I am continuing this topic more than needs be on my behalf. Hope everyone had a wonderful day and wish everyone lots of love!! I cannot do the study till I get home and I tend to get home late, but I look forward to reading it and reading other peoples comments.

Peace, Love, and Unity.

Leah

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

Study 8 Genesis 11:10-13:4
From Shem to Abram
The Call of Abram
Abram in Egypt
Abram and Lot Separate

1) Consider the inseperable intermingling of command and promise in God's call to Abram. How, in consequence, did Abram's faith express itself? Cf. Heb 11:8. Compare and contrast Gen. 11:31 with 12:5. In what ways is a similar responce demanded by the gospel of Christ?

2) In what two respects did Abram's faith fall short under the tests of famine and fear? When he acted unworthy how was he rebuked? What may we learn from Gen. 13:3-4? Cf. Rev 2:5

 

[Rut]

Study 7 Gen 10:1-11:9
The Table of Nations
The Tower of Babel

1) What does Gen 10 teach us of the origins of the nations and about their relationship to one another and to God? Cf. Acts 17:26; Rom 3:29.
We coming from Noahs sons depends what we live in the world.They had one language.It look like they didn`t had so good relationship with God didn`t trust him.The wanted to build a tower so they could make a name.It show that they didn`t thought about God`s name then.Somehow the didn`t wanted to honour God`s name

2) See 11:1-9. What was wrong with the attitude and activity of these men? What kind of judgement does God bring on those who seek supposed success in their way rather than in His way? See Ps. 2:1-4; Lk 11:23; cf. Gn 3:22-24; Is. 14:12-15; contrast Jn 11:49-52, esp. verse 52

I think I have little answer that question on the first one The judgment is that they can`t be near God.To the end they get the eternal death

 

[Rut]

Study 7 Gen 10:1-11:9
The Table of Nations
The Tower of Babel

1) What does Gen 10 teach us of the origins of the nations and about their relationship to one another and to God? Cf. Acts 17:26; Rom 3:29.
We comeing from Noahs sons depends what we live in the world.
I think they didn`t have a good relationship to God They didn`t trust him.They wanted to make a name in the world so they didn`t thought about to honour God`s name.They wanted to make somehow a bigger name

2) See 11:1-9. What was wrong with the attitude and activity of these men? What kind of judgement does God bring on those who seek supposed success in their way rather than in His way? See Ps. 2:1-4; Lk 11:23; cf. Gn 3:22-24; Is. 14:12-15; contrast Jn 11:49-52, esp. verse 52

I think I answered one of the questions in the first question
God judge them to not to be near him.To the end they get the eternal death

 

[Citizen of the Kingdom]

***Please note that the topic is God's Word and how He relates to human nature*** We need to stay on topic.

There is a purpose and theme to this thread with a lot of new material to alot of new listeners. The questions are merely the vehicle used to get us there. I'm trying to stay within the bounds of the questions myself to show how I view God's Word and His relationship/agenda with us. Please respect what we're trying to do by staying on topic. And Please bear with us all as myself and others go thru this study with this view in mind. In Jesus' love

 

[guinnerdbabe]

Just wanted to say I'm sorry if I get off topic, this is my first time being involved in this type of forum. I'm not quite sure if my postings are what you are looking for. Please let me know, because I do not want to hinder this thread.

Study 7 Gen 10:1-11:9
The Table of Nations
The Tower of Babel

1) What does Gen 10 teach us of the origins of the nations and about their relationship to one another and to God? Cf. Acts 17:26; Rom 3:29.
This shows that God can create and make nation's out of just mere men. It shows no matter how many nations there are we are all still brothers and sisters.

2) See 11:1-9. What was wrong with the attitude and activity of these men? What kind of judgement does God bring on those who seek supposed success in their way rather than in His way? See Ps. 2:1-4; Lk 11:23; cf. Gn 3:22-24; Is. 14:12-15; contrast Jn 11:49-52, esp. verse 52

They were building a twoer to glorify themselves. They were not building a temple of worship. They wanted to be by themselves and rely on themselves, and not be with God. So God scattered them, and confused them. In a sense separates them for two reasons. One so that they may learn to rely on God and not themselves and two it shows their separation from God himself.

I have not gotten to Study 8 due to thanksgiving. I will try as soon as possible. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone and much love!

Leah