Struggling with hatred of islam

peter2 said:

I personnally consider a relationship (conceived like a kind of battle) for lost whenever hatred possesses my soul. Never has Jesus let hatred win his soul in his life among men. Still less in the wilderness.. He was yet with his ennemy

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I see the point you are making, that we succumb to the passions when we hate rather than forgive other humans. And I think Orthodoxy agrees with this point, which is why we try to avoid dehumanization, and pray even for governments hostile to us.

The Liturgist said:

and pray even for governments hostile to us.

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Properly speaking Orthodox should pray for those leaders of hostile governments. This may be the strongest spiritual weapon.

Awful said:

Hello brothers and sisters,

I have many sins that I need to work on but today’s confession is that I can’t help but despise islam and muslims, both for all the things they’ve done to oppress, enslave and genocide us Orthodox and for their conscious choice to follow a pedophile murderer as a prophet.

I always try to impede them in any way I can and it pains me that my country will not fight back against them. But to hate them is wrong, not something God would want of me.

What are you all’s thoughts?

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I'm not Orthodox and I'm deeply sorry for your pain.

I would like you to consider however that like all the lost on the earth, Muslims are lost too. They are blinded and can't see...

You should hate Islam, but pray for your enemies to find Christ and be saved out of this darkness they are in.

If they found Christ the world could change, so pray for them. You don't have to do anything else, but do pray the darkness is lifted and they see the truth...

cradleGO said:

Disagree with the 'leave the West' as the solution. The West is the key. The West invented the internet!
The 21st century will not be kind to Islam. The internet makes it easy to refute Islam.
If you have encountered Muslims on the internet, they will often repeat the same 3-5 +/- "flaws" or contradictions of Christianity. It is easy to pull up refutations of such attacks.

On the other end, the internet has many sources that pick apart Islam, including its pagan origin - likely Baal worship, the creepy and evil originator, and the hokey and vile beliefs and such, including Aisha's goat eating so many Quran verses - lost forever. And Momo not only being very white (he has a supposedly lineal descendant, who is very white), but being a slave trader as well, including black slaves. So much for Muhammed Ali, the American boxer, changing his name from that of a notable abolitionist.

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It seems to me like Muhammed was the victim of a demonic posession or oppression, of a demon impersonating the Archangel Gabriel, who he was aware of, as St. John of Damascus speculated, as the result of encountering heretics, such as some extreme Nestorians or Arians. I suspect it was Arians, as it would explain his extreme anti-Trinitarianism as well as well as his confusion on the nature of the Trinity (his belief that the trinity included the Blessed Virgin Mary indicates he was not in contact with Orthodox Christians by any means).

There is something extremely sinister about the entity “Jibreel” which Muhammed assumed was St. Gabriel, assuming he was telling the truth about his encounter with it, commanding him, and squeezing him in a painful manner in an attempt to get him to do its will, it is really very disturbing. And since Psalm 95 v. 5 teaches us that the gods of the gentiles are demons, there is a valid reason for believing that Islam is of demonic origin.

cradleGO said:

Properly speaking Orthodox should pray for those leaders of hostile governments. This may be the strongest spiritual weapon.

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indeed, this is correct, and this is why we do the right thing in praying for the leaders of whatever government we happen to live under.