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the same writer, Paul, aready told us 3 or 4 times, that we r the temple of God
Hi Zeke, Jesus referred to the temple in both senses. The literal stone temple and the temple of the body, which he spoke of his temple his body.
That didn't negate the prophecy Jesus made of not one stone being left standing regarding the literal stone temple.
In similitude, Paul's statements regarding our bodies being temples, it does not negate the prophecy regarding the literal stone temple. It is that literal stone temple which will be rebuilt, that the Antichrist enters into.
Doug
Absolutely, ie, the stone temple of our hearts today (IIThess.2:4, 10b), ie, "Sanctuary."
Just ol' old sponge Jack
Jack, Jesus wasn't talking about the stone temple of our hearts, which one stone would not be left standing, but the literal stone temple of his day. Can't change history, Jack.
Doug
Probably same as me, ie, they threw me out of grade school for fighting, to a big grade school where the boys were tough and big. I backed off.
Jn.2:19, let's you and I make a local bank run with this rendition: "Destroy this sanctuary,.." They thought that Jesus was speaking of the 'stone' temple, but we know better don't we my friend. Sanctuary proper Doug. Distinct from ieron which included the entire 'stone' Temple area with its various extensive courts and structures.
Just ol' old agape those Hawaiian 'stone' fish, ie, careful poisonous spines.
If so, then why can't you believe that in the same Ezekiel 28, the first part is talking about the man of sin Antichrist going into the temple, sitting, claiming to be God? Which God will have him killed for the act. Don't you see the connection.12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
That he will die like the uncircumcised is that he is a Jew. It is a put down. God is disowning him. God is so disdained over it, that the Antichrist by selling out to Satan, that even though God has him killed, God doesn't let him remain in the grave....because by selling out to Satan, he destroys his land and his people.28 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:
3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:
4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:
5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:
6 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;
7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.
8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.
9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.
10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.
Isaiah 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.
20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
Isaiah speaks of Satan
Sanctuary? What are you trying to argue against yourself, Jack?
The temple of God would include the sanctuary. That would be where the seat of God is, His Presence in first temple days.
The prophecy in 2thess2:4 is that the man of sin going into the temple of God, sits, showing he is God. Where is he going to sit to show that he is God, except in the intermost sanctuary, a place where no man is allowed to enter but once a year by the high priest, and certainly not to sit there - because that represents God's throne.
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Jack, do you believe that the king of Tyrus in Ezekiel 28:12-17, is talking about Satan.....
If so, then why can't you believe that in the same Ezekiel 28, the first part is talking about the man of sin Antichrist going into the temple, sitting, claiming to be God? Which God will have him killed for the act. Don't you see the connection.
The Antichrist is called the man of sin, son of perdition in 2thess4 because he will temporarily, like Judas son of perdition, be entered into by Satan, to carry out an act of betraying his land and his people, by claiming to be God.
That's why Ezekiel 28 carry's both the Antichrist and Satan in it's contents.
That he will die like the uncircumcised is that he is a Jew. It is a put down. God is disowning him. God is so disdained over it, that the Antichrist by selling out to Satan, that even though God has him killed, God doesn't let him remain in the grave....because by selling out to Satan, he destroys his land and his people.
We are on opposite sides of the galaxy hence going to be impossible to reconcile the former, ie, except possibly "Sanctuary"?
Thank you again for all your efforts.
Just ol' old Jack
the same writer, Paul, aready told us 3 or 4 times, that we r the temple of God
now u want me to believe that Paul, the same write,
used the same term temple of God to refer to a future building?
Satan will be cast here, defacto, and pretend to be Jesus returned.
he will set up "his" kingdom.
if u(anyone) believe his lies abut being Jesus,
then he sits in you (the temple of God), claiming to be God, showing that he is God
'The Antichrist reveals himself as the Antichrist by this pagan act of seating himself in the true God's own sanctuary, ie, Satan is in hell awaiting to be loosed, or is he personally loosed already?
Just a side note. We need to forget about the poor "Jews," ie, God destroyed them as a nation long ago. They either trust in the promise now, becoming Jewish Christians, or will be getting very warm for them forever.
just ol' old Jack trying to stayforever
zeke37 said in post 129:
even tho he says that God does not dwell in man made buildings?
zeke37 said in post 129:
Satan will be cast here, defacto, and pretend to be Jesus returned.
zeke37 said in post 129:
who will be deceived/seduced/take the mark of the beast?
Douggg said in post 135:
Jack, do you believe that the king of Tyrus in Ezekiel 28:12-17, is talking about Satan.....
satan will not reveal himself,Christ reveals him at His coming,those who do not have the seal of God will believe the lie,(strong delussion)until Christ returns....
On that side note,we can't and should not forget about Judah,God didn't,He brought them back home,(parable of the fig tree)the problem lies in those that came with them(the bad figs)ie,those that call themselves Jew's,but are not.....
correct.satan will not reveal himself,Christ reveals him at His coming,those who do not have the seal of God will believe the lie,(strong delussion)until Christ returns....
true. sounds like we have/had the same teacherOn that side note,we can't and should not forget about Judah,God didn't,He brought them back home,(parable of the fig tree)the problem lies in those that came with them(the bad figs)ie,those that call themselves Jew's,but are not.....
correct.
only the elect will know who he is when he claims to be God/Jesus
the rest, are fooled/seduced/marked.
that's the test. patience. last day.
true. sounds like we have/had the same teacher
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