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Do beliefs make things better or worse for society?

  • Yes

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One's belief leads them to seek to have unconditional love for their neighbor, and in turn this leads them to deeds done in good will toward others.

Another's belief leads them to have hatred for their neighbor, which in turn leads to the act of sinning against another person.

It is our job to center our beliefs around what God says, because from him all good things come. The Father sent Christ to die on the cross and rise again so that he could redeem mankind, which is corrupted and in need of a Savior; this was done out of good will and pure love for his creation. Therefore, our belief in God's word helps us to understand those things which are the ultimate good for both our lives and the lives of others around us.
 
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One's belief leads them to seek to have unconditional love for their neighbor, and in turn this leads them to deeds done in good will toward others.

Another's belief leads them to have hatred for their neighbor, which in turn leads to the act of sinning against another person.

It is our job to center our beliefs around what God says, because from him all good things come. The Father sent Christ to die on the cross and rise again so that he could redeem mankind, which is corrupted and in need of a Savior; this was done out of good will and pure love for his creation. Therefore, our belief in God's word helps us to understand those things which are the ultimate good for both our lives and the lives of others around us.
Love? Isn't that another belief system?
 
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What do you mean by belief? There is no thing as 100% certainty. Everything we think is true is a belief. We should hold a belief when we have a level of confidence that the belief is true based on the claim. Believing in a God and believing in gravity are both beliefs but one is grounded in overwhelming evidence and the other has insufficient evidence for belief in my opinion.
 
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It only takes one assumption to establish a belief system, and another one to follow it.

Establishing some premise for the sake of belief will depend on the subject matter and on whom you choose to listen to: whether Descartes OR Pascal OR ... some other Joker! :rolleyes:
 
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Right beliefs = yes. Wrong beliefs = no. For example, evolution is a lie and wrong belief, but the many are convinced.
Monkey see monkey do.
 
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If I believe what you say, will that help me or hinder me?
IMO if you believe me, it will help.
But others would say if you believe what I say it would hinder you.
 
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