Stopping abortion

[Electric Sceptic]

It sure does accomplish alot.

No doubt.

At the clinic where we counsel we average about one turnaround every day we are out there.

I wonder why. Women, many of whom are worried and concerned, already feeling guilty because of the anti-choice crowd, confronted by a bunch of ranting ratbags thrusting posters in her face. I'm amazed it's only one. Of course, what happens to that woman after she turns around, you couldn't care less about.

I also do alot of street demonstrations and we always hear from people who did not realise what abortion was or how widespread it is.

Hahahah, yeah I'm sure. All those people who think there's one abortion a year.

Pro-aborts HATE the picures of both fetal development and abortions because the pictures tell the truth.

I've never heard of a 'pro-abort'.

Of course people hate the pictures. Show some pictures of a heart transplant in progress - people'll hate those, too. So what?

You can verbal engineer and discuss lies all you want but a dismembered human is a dismembered human.

And a life ruined by an unwanted pregnancy is a life ruined by an unwanted pregnancy. Perhaps we could have some posters showing dead women killed by backyard abortionists, which is where you'll force them?

Of course I feel it is appropropriate for all people to see the pictures.
If the four year old happens to see the pix and asks a question, then the parent can explain what an abortion is. That is the parent's job, to explain things to their children.

And, of course, to explain to them when YOU have forced their children to confront the issue - children that may well be nowhere near dealing with such a thing. Nevertheless, you're gonna force them to do so. What a noble bunch.

The reason for showing the photos of the killed human beings should be obvious, but I will explain. They show the TRUTH that an unborn human is indeed a human and they also show the brutality of the act of abortion. People can agree or disagree about the rightness or wrongness of the act, but at least they will have seen the pictures.

The reason for showing the photos of the killed fetusses IS obvious. It's a pathetic attempt to shock and horrify vulnerable women in an attempt to force them to follow your morality.

 

[Electric Sceptic]

And we're talking about a living, oxygen dependant, baby that we love.

Yeah, you love it so much that once it's born, you couldn't care less about it. Just so long as it IS born, into you don't care what sort of life.

 

[bugg1]

1.) sex education should not be in schools for teachers to teach........thats up to the parents....who else knows them better!2.)Teaching them this as a child will only make said child more curious as to what the fuss is for them to be taught.....and then decide to try it so they can better understand it.3.)I've talked to many kids from different schools...have you? No?....ok then ...THEY SAID"cool....now they can save some of they're money.....some talked about having a partner(someone other than theyare dating) to have sex without getting caught.........so what do you see that they are learning?How to be decietfull for one.....kids want to grow p to fast.....what ever in in there face is what they'll focus on because they are not experienced in life enough yet to see their are other things to focus on......so lets teach them arts, language, even the Einstien theory is better or how to be successful in buisness(more detailed), how to rapidly gain a better life. First we must equip ourselves with a better education so our kids, grandkids and so on can gain a better stronger knowledge understanding on life....and not how to be sneaky and have sex "properly" before they have gained "ADULTHOOD".

 

[bugg1]

Its to show the truth!.....As soon as the sperm is in the egg its a human being! Thats when there is a soul in that body thats forming. A doctor had to perform a special surgery on a baby at two months in the mothers belly....the surgery was a success....but before the doctor could pull away his hand to start sowing up the belly....the baby reached out and held onto the doctor's finger .......just like when a baby is fully developed and out of a mother......Do you now see the point ......or would you rather save animal babies instead?

 

[bugg1]

In a true christian view, abortion is murder.....it God's view also.........wwould you not appose a serial killer let loose that likes to kill innocent childeren?

 

[bugg1]

*cheers on monia*

 

[bugg1]

Whew! I better leave this thread.....I'm getting angry at ignorance.....*the thought of the roman empire and what started its fall*

 

[Lycaenidae]

And we're talking about a living, oxygen dependant, baby that we love.

You love random fetuses you don't know?

 

[Lycaenidae]

I do not agree that pregnancy is hell. I think hell is more like having your arms and legs ripped off, your skull crushed and your brains sucked out, or being burned with a toxic chemical until you die. That is what happens to babies in abortions. However, if you do regard pregnancy and childbirth as hell, there is an easy way to avoid it- don't have sex.

It's nice that you're willing to make other people die for your beliefs.

 

[Lycaenidae]

Its to show the truth!.....As soon as the sperm is in the egg its a human being! Thats when there is a soul in that body thats forming. A doctor had to perform a special surgery on a baby at two months in the mothers belly....the surgery was a success....but before the doctor could pull away his hand to start sowing up the belly....the baby reached out and held onto the doctor's finger .......just like when a baby is fully developed and out of a mother......Do you now see the point ......or would you rather save animal babies instead?

English! Do you speak it?

 

[Lycaenidae]

Of course I feel it is appropropriate for all people to see the pictures.
If the four year old happens to see the pix and asks a question, then the parent can explain what an abortion is. That is the parent's job, to explain things to their children.

Why is it ok for children to see these graphic images but it is not ok for them to see graphic images on the TV? Why is it the parents' job to explain these images to children, but we as a society have to play Mommy when it comes to TV? This is a double standard.

 

[Tangnefedd]

Funny that some rabid anti-abortionists are quite willing to kill living breathing human beings in order to protect a foetus that is not viable! Either they are pro ALL life or they are stupid hypocrites!

 

[AcadiaMoon]

Shock tactics? Or simply showing the truth? I've heard the argument dozens of times that in the first trimester an unborn baby is just a ball of cells....when people see a picture of an eight week old fetus and see arms and legs torn off and a little face, they realize it is a little person. It educates them. If there is a God, and if they die and face Him, they can't say they didn't know....can they?

Shock tactics, pure and simple. If you had a better position or argument, you'd use it but all you have to rely on are pictures that don't represent abortion.

If you want to be honest about abortion, show the picture of a woman who is getting an abortion and show the situation around her choice. That's the truth behind aboriton.

 

[AcadiaMoon]

I do not agree that pregnancy is hell. I think hell is more like having your arms and legs ripped off, your skull crushed and your brains sucked out, or being burned with a toxic chemical until you die. That is what happens to babies in abortions. However, if you do regard pregnancy and childbirth as hell, there is an easy way to avoid it- don't have sex.

Saline abortions are rarely done in the US anymore and late term abortions make up the smallest of abortions in the US but also they are the highest percentage of abortions for medical need. A majority of abortions are done at a time where all that happens is the embryo detaches from the uterine wall and is flushed out via chemically induced menstration (RU-486). Other than the fact that it's chemically induced by a pill, it's exactly the same as a normal miscarriage.

If you are going to talk about the horrors of abortion be sure that the horrors you talk about are representative of the abortions being performed.

 

[AcadiaMoon]

And we're talking about a living, oxygen dependant, baby that we love.

If you 'love' the fetus that another woman is carrying then you are more than welcome to carry the pregnancy to term for her.

 

[AcadiaMoon]

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Of course I feel it is appropropriate for all people to see the pictures.
If the four year old happens to see the pix and asks a question, then the parent can explain what an abortion is. That is the parent's job, to explain things to their children.

Why is it ok for children to see these graphic images but it is not ok for them to see graphic images on the TV? Why is it the parents' job to explain these images to children, but we as a society have to play Mommy when it comes to TV? This is a double standard.

Somebody actually thinks it's OK to show a 4 year old abortion pictures? Give unto me a break.

If I showed a 4 year old a picture of a decapitated, dismembered human being, there is not a parent that would not lose their mind over it. And rightly so! But if they feel that you can show a 4 year old pictures of an abortion and that's OK, then obviously they don't think a fetus is a person either. If it were a person, they'd be angry about how we're tramatizing our children.

Regardless I wouldn't sit down a 4 year old to watch an episode Life in the ER where they could see all sorts of medical waste and body oggie boogies. That stuff is not for children and anybody who'd expose my children to it is a sicko who can't say that they care for children and their wellbeing.

 

[Tangnefedd]

Anyone showing a four year old such images is sick and abusive!

 

[butterfoot]

If you 'love' the fetus that another woman is carrying then you are more than welcome to carry the pregnancy to term for her.

If thats what I have to do

 

[AcadiaMoon]

If thats what I have to do

You and I both know that's an offer you'd never make much less follow through on.

 

[Tangnefedd]

Since when did blokes have wombs?