Stop Normalizing Trump

Aldebaran said:

I wasn't aware that allowing election laws to be overturned and loosened to the point that no real identification is needed in order to vote, mass mail in ballots for people who don't need them, and allowing plenty of other irregularities to take place without question was the right thing to do.

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So banana republic

Aldebaran said:

Seems to be going that way. If the current admin gets to redesign the Supreme Court to their liking, adding a bunch of new judges that will sway the court to the far Left for every decision for generations to come, the bananafication of the republic will be complete.

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Ive deep sympathies on both sides of the Pacific.

My concerned criticism of the US gets me accused of
whatever.

Here my comments re CCP have gotten me far worse.

But thats sort of irrelevant.

I'm afraid for the future of USA.

Aldebaran said:

I notice you miss the entire point of the article. Did you miss the headline too?

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Did you read the article???

Hello
I am new here and I am not even American but I would like to say a few things because something like that occurs in Europe with all those far right parties that are taking authority in various European countries one after the other. All those people who vote for extreme right parties are not always far right exteremists. In reality most of the them vote for such ideologies just as a reaction to the old parties that have disapointed them with their policies. And it is not always about economy. A significant part of European communities are opposed to policies concerning illegal immigration, gay ideology, abortions, and why not neo-liberalism etc. We may call these people conservatives but not extremists. There is a very aggressive policy from all over European governments to spread such ideologies by just ignoring the people who do not believe them. Example, in my country the majority of people do not consider homosexuals as normal people. But the government in agreement with other oppositon parties have voted for marriage of such people and the right to adopt children. All that occured last year. And all the press are for them which gives the impression that my people are for such ideologies. But in reality the majority is against such things. So there is huge problem with Democracy in Europe. Also immigratin is another thing that causes problems in Europe. Because it is not about just a few peole who try to flee the horrible conditions in their country but they are hundreds of thousands and milions who come to Europe every year. Who alter the ethnological compositions of the European nations. On top of that most of immigrants who are muslims from Asia and Africa never assimilate to the European culture and they form getos in the countries where they end. The experience about that in counties like England, France, Germany and even Scandinavean countries where people are considered very liberal have shown huge problems in embodying these people in our societies. And these people are very volnerable to exteremism. Another problem is the wellfare system in Europe. Right or wrong there is always a tendency towards the left in Europe. The neo-liberal policies which are applied in many countiries, maybe to all but Scandinavia, are opposed by all here. We have ended in poverty for a significant part of Europe. They are not welcomed here. Europeans are used to another type of economy and want to stay there.
So the problem is not Trump or far right extermists. Sorry for Trump supporters, I do not know anything about Trump, just what I read in newspaprs. The problem is called Cancelling the Democracy where the authority who is supposed to represent the people who voted for them do things against their will. And as long the governments do not have "ears to listen" but try to spread their woke agenda no mtter what those problems will become bigger and more and more people will seek shelter in the far right region.

Giannis said:

Hello
I am new here and I am not even American but I would like to say a few things because something like that occurs in Europe with all those far right parties that are taking authority in various European countries one after the other. All those people who vote for extreme right parties are not always far right exteremists. In reality most of the them vote for such ideologies just as a reaction to the old parties that have disapointed them with their policies. And it is not always about economy. A significant part of European communities are opposed to policies concerning illegal immigration, gay ideology, abortions, and why not neo-liberalism etc. We may call these people conservatives but not extremists. There is a very aggressive policy from all over European governments to spread such ideologies by just ignoring the people who do not believe them. Example, in my country the majority of people do not consider homosexuals as normal people. But the government in agreement with other oppositon parties have voted for marriage of such people and the right to adopt children. All that occured last year. And all the press are for them which gives the impression that my people are for such ideologies. But in reality the majority is against such things. So there is huge problem with Democracy in Europe. Also immigratin is another thing that causes problems in Europe. Because it is not about just a few peole who try to flee the horrible conditions in their country but they are hundreds of thousands and milions who come to Europe every year. Who alter the ethnological compositions of the European nations. On top of that most of immigrants who are muslims from Asia and Africa never assimilate to the European culture and they form getos in the countries where they end. The experience about that in counties like England, France, Germany and even Scandinavean countries where people are considered very liberal have shown huge problems in embodying these people in our societies. And these people are very volnerable to exteremism. Another problem is the wellfare system in Europe. Right or wrong there is always a tendency towards the left in Europe. The neo-liberal policies which are applied in many countiries, maybe to all but Scandinavia, are opposed by all here. We have ended in poverty for a significant part of Europe. They are not welcomed here. Europeans are used to another type of economy and want to stay there.
So the problem is not Trump or far right extermists. Sorry for Trump supporters, I do not know anything about Trump, just what I read in newspaprs. The problem is called Cancelling the Democracy where the authority who is supposed to represent the people who voted for them do things against their will. And as long the governments do not have "ears to listen" but try to spread their woke agenda no mtter what those problems will become bigger and more and more people will seek shelter in the far right region.

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Maybe it’s just me-
but a solid block of text hurts my eyes and I don’t read it

Ok let me make my text more readable.
Firstly it is not about Trump but about people who lean towards "extreme" ideologies and persons, and I am trying to find out why people approve such ideologies.
Secondly my comment is not about the US, I am not American, but European. Europe seems to go under a similar situation. I also do not wish to insult Trump supporters as I don't know much about Trump but only what I read in newspapers, which in Europe do not write a good word for Trump.
Lately Europe goes through a series of events with all those far right parties that are taking authority in various European countries one after the other. All those people who vote for extreme right parties are not always far right exteremists. In reality a part of people vote for such ideologies as a reaction to the old type parties that have disapointed them with their policies. We may call these people conservatives but not extremists. And one will find a huge part of left wing supporters who vote for the far right.
And it is not always about economy. A significant part of European communities oppose policies concerning illegal immigration, gay ideology, abortions, and yes neo-liberalism, etc.
There is a very aggressive policy from all over European governments to spread such ideologies by just ignoring the people who do not approve them. Example, in my country the majority of people do not consider homosexuals as normal people. But the government in agreement with other oppositon parties have voted a law for marriage of such people and the right to adopt children. All that occured last year. And all the press are for them which gives the impression that my people are in general in favour of such ideologies. Which is not true. We see it in polls. The majority is against such things. But who listens to them? So there is huge problem with Democracy in Europe.
Also immigratin is another thing that causes problems in Europe. Because it is not about just a few people who try to flee the horrible conditions in their country but they are hundreds of thousands and milions who come to Europe every year. Who alter the ethnological compositions of the European nations. On top of that most of immigrants who are muslims from Asia and Africa never assimilate to the European culture and they form ghettos in the countries where they end up. The experience about that in counties like England, France, Germany and even Scandinavean countries, where people are considered very liberal, have shown huge problems in embodying these people in our societies. And these people are very vulnerable to exteremism.
Another problem is the wellfare system in Europe. Right or wrong generally speaking there is always a tendency towards the left in Europe. The neo-liberal policies which are applied to many countiries, maybe to all but Scandinavia, are opposed by all here. We have ended in poverty for a significant part of Europe. They are not welcome here. Europeans are used to another type of economy and wellfare system for which they are very proud of and want to remain as it has always been..
Where I want to end up is that the problem is not Trump or far right extermists or such people. The problem is called Cancelling the Democracy where the authority who is supposed to represent the people who voted for them do things against their will. And as long as, the governments do not have "ears to listen" but try to spread their woke agenda no matter what, those problems will become bigger and more people will seek shelter in the far right region. A big part of European communities feel that they are ignored, like they don't exist, like they are insignificant and have no say in the government policies. Well, a big problem here.

xser88 said:

Protesters Outside New York Times Demand Newspaper 'Stop Normalizing Trump'https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https://www.rawstory.com/new-york-times-trump-protest/&text=Protesters outside New York Times demand newspaper 'stop normalizing Trump'&​

The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building.

Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand, according to one civil rights lawyer, is to stop "sane-washing" Trump.

The activists had bright yellow signs with words the Times has avoided using in reports such as "lies," "convict" and "felon." The group had one large black banner across the group reading "stop normalizing Trump."

As Oliver Darcy wrote for CNN in March, "Critics have also argued that The Times covers Biden and Trump with disproportionate standards, placing false equivalence on issues surrounding the current president to those of the former president, who is facing 91 criminal counts and fantasized about being a dictator on 'day one.'"

Protesters outside New York Times demand newspaper 'stop normalizing Trump'

The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building. Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand...

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When it comes to Trump, the only "sane-washing" going on is by the left through their radical actions and policies that make Trump look normal by comparison.

Oompa Loompa said:

radical actions and policies

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such as?

Akita Suggagaki said:

such as?

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1. Letting men go into woman's spaces.

2. Allowing gay erotica into public school libraries and vilifying anyone who opposes it as "banning books."

3. Encouraging drag queens to read books to children.

4. Encouraging little boys to become sexualized by performing drag shows in front of live televised audiences and throwing money at them even though it would be considered unacceptable if a similar aged girl did a the same thing.

5. Demanding reparations.

6. Supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas and the eradication of the state of Israel, "From the river to the sea, Palestine should be free."

7. Encouraging violence against law enforcement and turning thugs into heroes (George Floyd and BLM).

8. Normalizing pedophilia by rebranding pedophiles as "Minor Attracted Persons" and making them another victimized minority.

That should be a good start but there are many more. Should I continue?

Oompa Loompa said:

1. Letting men go into woman's spaces.

2. Allowing gay erotica into public school libraries and vilifying anyone who opposes it as "banning books."

3. Encouraging drag queens to read books to children.

4. Encouraging little boys to become sexualized by performing drag shows in front of live televised audiences and throwing money at them even though it would be considered unacceptable if a similar aged girl did a the same thing.

5. Demanding reparations.

6. Supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas and the eradication of the state of Israel, "From the river to the sea, Palestine should be free."

7. Encouraging violence against law enforcement and turning thugs into heroes (George Floyd and BLM).

8. Normalizing pedophilia by rebranding pedophiles as "Minor Attracted Persons" and making them another victimized minority.

That should be a good start but there are many more. Should I continue?

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Go for it.

Astrid said:

Go for it.

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I will wait for a reply because I am expecting a line-by-line argument using fake "fact checkers" to invalidate everything I presented.

Astrid said:

Go for it.

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I guess I am not going to get my reply. Therefore @Akita Suggagaki must be satisfied with the answer. So no worries.

Oompa Loompa said:

1. Letting men go into woman's spaces.

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What about women in men's spaces?

Oompa Loompa said:

2. Allowing gay erotica into public school libraries and vilifying anyone who opposes it as "banning books."

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Gay erotica? got an example?

Oompa Loompa said:

3. Encouraging drag queens to read books to children.

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That is a federal thing?

Oompa Loompa said:

4. Encouraging little boys to become sexualized by performing drag shows in front of live televised audiences and throwing money at them even though it would be considered unacceptable if a similar aged girl did a the same thing.

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I don't know what you are talking about

Oompa Loompa said:

5. Demanding reparations.

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Worth a conversation.

Oompa Loompa said:

6. Supporting terrorist organizations like Hamas and the eradication of the state of Israel, "From the river to the sea, Palestine should be free."

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Who are you referring to here? Harris?

Oompa Loompa said:

7. Encouraging violence against law enforcement and turning thugs into heroes (George Floyd and BLM).

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Who?

Oompa Loompa said:

8. Normalizing pedophilia by rebranding pedophiles as "Minor Attracted Persons" and making them another victimized minority.

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Who?

Akita Suggagaki said:

What about women in men's spaces?

Gay erotica? got an example?

That is a federal thing?

I don't know what you are talking about

Worth a conversation.

Who are you referring to here? Harris?

Who?

Who?

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Look it up. There are plenty of other threads in this forum that specifically address my points. Or you can just Google it. I don't want to go down an off-topic rabbit trails.

Oompa Loompa said:

I will wait for a reply because I am expecting a line-by-line argument using fake "fact checkers" to invalidate everything I presented.

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@Astrid I told you so.

Oompa Loompa said:

Look it up. There are plenty of other threads in this forum that specifically address my points. Or you can just Google it. I don't want to go down an off-topic rabbit trails.

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Should "sodomites" be arrested and put serve jail sentences?

Akita Suggagaki said:

Should "sodomites" be arrested and put serve jail sentences?

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What does that have to do with the topic?

Oompa Loompa said:

What does that have to do with the topic?

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I probably got you and this topic mixed up with another on Christian Nationalism. Sorry.