Stop Normalizing Trump

[xser88]

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The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building.

Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand, according to one civil rights lawyer, is to stop "sane-washing" Trump.

The activists had bright yellow signs with words the Times has avoided using in reports such as "lies," "convict" and "felon." The group had one large black banner across the group reading "stop normalizing Trump."

As Oliver Darcy wrote for CNN in March, "Critics have also argued that The Times covers Biden and Trump with disproportionate standards, placing false equivalence on issues surrounding the current president to those of the former president, who is facing 91 criminal counts and fantasized about being a dictator on 'day one.'"

Protesters outside New York Times demand newspaper 'stop normalizing Trump'

The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building. Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand...

www.rawstory.com

 

[zippy2006]

So apparently the NYT also gets it from the far-left for not being propagandistic enough.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

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The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building.

Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand, according to one civil rights lawyer, is to stop "sane-washing" Trump.

The activists had bright yellow signs with words the Times has avoided using in reports such as "lies," "convict" and "felon." The group had one large black banner across the group reading "stop normalizing Trump."

As Oliver Darcy wrote for CNN in March, "Critics have also argued that The Times covers Biden and Trump with disproportionate standards, placing false equivalence on issues surrounding the current president to those of the former president, who is facing 91 criminal counts and fantasized about being a dictator on 'day one.'"

Protesters outside New York Times demand newspaper 'stop normalizing Trump'

The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building. Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand...

www.rawstory.com

Good gravy! Does the Left have some kind of think-tank that just makes up new terms on the fly, like every day?

"Sane-washing" .... that's a good one. I'm going to have to start using it.

 

[zippy2006]

Good gravy! Does the Left have some kind of think-tank that just makes up new terms on the fly, like every day?

"Sane-washing" .... that's a good one. I'm going to have to start using it.

Sane-washed in the blood of the Times.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I think the protestors' anger is a tad misdirected.

Outlets like NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, etc... haven't been trying to "normalize Trump". If anything, the opposite.

They (for the last few years) have been trying to portray him as a "unique unprecedented threat to democracy" IE: "not normal"


The reason Trump seems "less abnormal" to people than he actually should, is because of all the other "abnormal" things occurring and being advocated for are so far out there, that he doesn't stand out as being as abnormal as he would in "normal conditions".


To use a very "over the top" analogy.

Under normal circumstances, a guy in a work meeting conference room with his pants around his ankles peeing into a trashcan is going to draw a lot of attention for doing something very abnormal and downright offensive.

However, if another person in the same meeting is sitting there openly picking their nose and eating the boogers, and another one showed up in a pair of parachute pants and starts doing the MC Hammer "can't touch this" dance in the middle of the meeting for no apparent reason...

The "trash can urinator" isn't going to get the amount of exclusive "that's weird" focus they would if it were normal circumstances.

 

[IceJad]

This to me is the manifestation of hyper-partisan mentality. They would rather buy a newspaper that panders to their delusion of a person than actually unbias news. Not that NYT is unbias to begin with. However the point still stands that there are people out there that would place their own feelings above the actual environment around them. It is a form of escapism that is highly unhealthy.

Sane-washing, I don't even know it's a word.

 

[rambot]

I think the protestors' anger is a tad misdirected.

Outlets like NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, etc... haven't been trying to "normalize Trump". If anything, the opposite.

They (for the last few years) have been trying to portray him as a "unique unprecedented threat to democracy" IE: "not normal"


The reason Trump seems "less abnormal" to people than he actually should, is because of all the other "abnormal" things occurring and being advocated for are so far out there, that he doesn't stand out as being as abnormal as he would in "normal conditions".

Wait. Really?
OK. Take off all the transgender stuff for a bit...what are the other "out there" ideas?


The reason trump is less abnormal is not because of any kind of media manipulation and everything to do with the actions of a narcissistic personality disorder. People with npds create chaos around them. This allows for more control. It's a lot easier to be feel like (and be) in control when nobody else knows what's going on.


The daily show did a top 100 trump "strange events" of trump in office (dont remeber thr name). And they still didn't include things. That's a weird event every 3 days in office....for 3 years. That's the PRESIDENT. I'd encourage you to watch rhe video if you can stomach the daily show.

We got desensitized to the amount of nonsense from that guy I think....

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Wait. Really?
OK. Take off all the transgender stuff for a bit...what are the other "out there" ideas?


The reason trump is less abnormal is not because of any kind of media manipulation and everything to do with the actions of a narcissistic personality disorder. People with npds create chaos around them. This allows for more control. It's a lot easier to be feel like (and be) in control when nobody else knows what's going on.


The daily show did a top 100 trump "strange events" of trump in office (dont remeber thr name). And they still didn't include things. That's a weird event every 3 days in office....for 3 years. That's the PRESIDENT. I'd encourage you to watch rhe video if you can stomach the daily show.

We got desensitized to the amount of nonsense from that guy I think....

First off, I wouldn't "take off all the transgender stuff", because that is one huge sticking point for people. (to many people, a narcissistic blow-hard like Trump seems less abnormal to them than what they perceive as "men in the womens changing room"). You can't hedge with taking out one of the key things people are divided over.

That'd be like saying "Ignoring all the criminal activity and dog whistles for a moment, what's so bad about Trump?"


Apart from that...

Politicians giving lipservice to the "defund the police" movement and BLM, advocating for late-term elective abortions and drifting away from "safe, legal and rare" to "shout your abortion", student loan forgiveness (in an educational environment that's drifted consistently left for the last 10 years), proposals for unrealized capital gains taxes, "Cancel culture" efforts, expanding multi-culturalism, calling people bigots if they want stronger borders...


There's a key difference between how conservatives and progressives view each others movements.

While conservatives tend to realize that the progressive "movement" doesn't live or die with any one person, progressives tend to not realize that about conservatives. Progressives tend to talk as if "If Trump never existed, none of this would be happening". When, in reality, there would've just been another "Trump'ish" person to fill that void.

His rise to power didn't happen in a vacuum. It's not as if it's a situation where if there was no Trump, conservatives would've been magically laid back abut rapid changes pertaining all of the aforementioned, all within a 4-year time window.


But to circle back around, my response to the other poster was still valid... Protestors barking outside of the HQ's of places like NY Times and WaPo, claiming that those kinds of publications are "sane-washing" and/or normalizing Trump is, like I said, misdirected anger.

You and I can disagree about "Left's policies making Trump seem more normal to the right-wing" vs. "Trump does it so much, people are desensitized"...whether I'm right, or you're right...either way, the protestors in question are wrong. Whatever the cause is of the "perceived Trump normalizing", it's certainly not the publications that have been calling him a unique threat for the last 4 years.

NY Times has ran pieces about him being "thuggish", "autocratic", "having the capacity to upend democratic norms", uniquely racist, "representing all that is wrong with the American right", "Jim Crow 2.0", etc...

What else, exactly, do these protestors want the NY Times and WaPo to say about him? Are they just wanting them to run a hit piece called "Trump: The New Hitler" before they'll be satisfied with NY Times' coverage about him?

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

I think the protestors' anger is a tad misdirected.

Outlets like NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, etc... haven't been trying to "normalize Trump". If anything, the opposite.

They (for the last few years) have been trying to portray him as a "unique unprecedented threat to democracy" IE: "not normal"


The reason Trump seems "less abnormal" to people than he actually should, is because of all the other "abnormal" things occurring and being advocated for are so far out there, that he doesn't stand out as being as abnormal as he would in "normal conditions".

This.

My goodness, we have an extremely dangerous gang infiltrating our major cities and children getting sexually assaulted in expensive, previously safe places like Nantucket by dangerous people who have just flooded over the border thanks to the existing administration's insane policies.

But really....we need to focus on Trump.

What nonsense.

Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua used border chaos to infiltrate U.S.

Violent criminal gang is quietly operating in unsuspected neighborhoods and communities across the country, including Aurora

gazette.com

 

[FireDragon76]

I actually agree that the NYT is guilty of sane-washing Trump. Much of the media has been in general, especially since Jan 6 2001 fell by the wayside.

What we need is anti-fascism as the new normal, not "centrist" liberalism.

 

[IceJad]

I actually agree that the NYT is guilty of sane-washing Trump. Much of the media has been in general, especially since Jan 6 2001 fell by the wayside.

What we need is anti-fascism as the new normal, not "centrist" liberalism.

So basically violence against anything perceived as not "progressive"? More antifa bike locks to the head here we come! The hospitals are going to make a killing saving people that are being killed.

 

[Aldebaran]

Good gravy! Does the Left have some kind of think-tank that just makes up new terms on the fly, like every day?

"Sane-washing" .... that's a good one. I'm going to have to start using it.

And we know how they like to accuse and apply terms to conservatives that they themselves are guilty of. They don't want us to "sane-wash" Trump, which is their admitting of sane-washing a certain other president who has been "sharp as a tack" for the past 3.5 years.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Protesters Outside New York Times Demand Newspaper 'Stop Normalizing Trump'https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?url=https://www.rawstory.com/new-york-times-trump-protest/&text=Protesters outside New York Times demand newspaper 'stop normalizing Trump'&​

The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building.

Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand, according to one civil rights lawyer, is to stop "sane-washing" Trump.

The activists had bright yellow signs with words the Times has avoided using in reports such as "lies," "convict" and "felon." The group had one large black banner across the group reading "stop normalizing Trump."

As Oliver Darcy wrote for CNN in March, "Critics have also argued that The Times covers Biden and Trump with disproportionate standards, placing false equivalence on issues surrounding the current president to those of the former president, who is facing 91 criminal counts and fantasized about being a dictator on 'day one.'"

Protesters outside New York Times demand newspaper 'stop normalizing Trump'

The New York Times has garnered criticism over the year for its reporting on Donald Trump and the 2024 election. On Wednesday, that criticism led to in-person protests outside the building. Readers left online complaints and cancelled subscriptions before direct protests began. Their demand...

www.rawstory.com

In the mainstream media 84% of all coverage of Kamala is positive.

In the same mainstream media 89% of all Trump coverage is negative.

Press Delivers 84 Percent Positive Coverage for Harris, 89 Percent Negative on Trump, Analysis Finds

Despite the honeymoon, public sentiment may not align with the narrative from the press.

www.nysun.com

So the loons are going after the 11% that isn't a propaganda fest? Really? Everyone has absolutely lost the plot.

No wonder there's been 2 failed assassination attempts on Trump's life, one thwarted assassin attempt and intelligence on a current 5 assassination teams setting up to kill him (2 domestic teams and 3 foreign)

If we make it to November with a living Republican candidate it will be a miracle, it's already a miracle for goodness sakes...

And the media and current administration is to blame for creating this environment - It's a crime against the American people and a violation of our rights.

 

[Hazelelponi]

I actually agree that the NYT is guilty of sane-washing Trump. Much of the media has been in general, especially since Jan 6 2001 fell by the wayside.

What we need is anti-fascism as the new normal, not "centrist" liberalism.

Why is anti fascism so fascist in practice?

 

[Aldebaran]

Why is anti fascism so fascist in practice?

Because the pot and the kettle never recognize each other.

 

[rambot]

In the mainstream media 84% of all coverage of Kamala is positive.

In the same mainstream media 89% of all Trump coverage is negative.

Press Delivers 84 Percent Positive Coverage for Harris, 89 Percent Negative on Trump, Analysis Finds

Despite the honeymoon, public sentiment may not align with the narrative from the press.

www.nysun.com

So the loons are going after the 11% that isn't a propaganda fest? Really? Everyone has absolutely lost the plot.

No wonder there's been 2 failed assassination attempts on Trump's life, one thwarted assassin attempt and intelligence on a current 5 assassination teams setting up to kill him (2 domestic teams and 3 foreign)

If we make it to November with a living Republican candidate it will be a miracle, it's already a miracle for goodness sakes...

And the media and current administration is to blame for creating this environment - It's a crime against the American people and a violation of our rights.

What's the numbers for Fox and ANN and such?

Also, given Fox's HUGE market share (overwhelming really) why are they never considered part of the "mainstream media"?

They are the MAINEST stream.

Edit:
Sorry. IT'd be because they're trying to be anti-elitist, and "anti establishment" right?

 

[IceJad]

Why is anti fascism so fascist in practice?

Because those who have dehumanized others will not feel any moral inhibition to act horridly.

It is the same kind of feeling a lot of people have when given the option to kill a convicted child predator. To them their targets deserve the evil being dished out to them for they were evil first. Anti-fascist today does the same to anyone they perceived as a potential threat to their delusional view of the world. To them they are doing the greater good. Self-righteous kind of good which ironically makes them the same as their enemies.

 

[rambot]

Trump had a previous 4 years in office where he proved himself capable, energetic, and up to the task. Nothing has changed,

psst....he's 4 years older. That's exactly what changed.

1) And I disagree with your characterization that he was "Energetic" or "up for the task".
2) He worked a merely average of 6hrs/day (But I guess he's JUST the president so there is THAT to consider...and there was that pesky COVID Thing that he could have been concerned with but...why?)

A president does not dismiss briefings and refuse to make informed decisions. Heck not even a McDonald's manager worth their salt would do that. But that's another thread.

 

[Hazelelponi]

To them they are doing the greater good. Self-righteous kind of good which ironically makes them the same as their enemies.

Except it appears they have deemed my group over here as "the enemy".

I am not the same as a fascist, we aren't fascist at all. I think we are bending over backwards to get along.

Was not having cartels running around the suburbs a bad thing? Can we just enforce the law for the good of everyone? It's gotten ridiculous. Trump was a good president.

This is insanity.

 

[Aldebaran]

psst....he's 4 years older. That's exactly what changed.

Obama also was 4 years older at the end of his first term. That's what 4 years in office usually does. Then he was elected again, and the world didn't come to an end.

And I disagree with your characterization that he was "Energetic" or "up for the task".
A president does not dismiss briefings and refuse to make informed decisions. Heck not even a McDonald's manager worth their salt would do that. But that's another thread.

The current one does, so apparently a president can do those things.
However, we don't expect him to be an example for the next president, unless that black woman is elected since she was one of those who tried to gaslight the public that Biden is so mentally sharp (even though she ended up having to bypass the primary election results to replace him).

But anyway, Trump doesn't need to be normalized. He's already normal.
What his haters need to do is stop demonizing him (and trying to kill him, which seems to be what has become normalized).