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Then their condemnation is just!!...Romans 3:8What if a person decides to reject all of that and do their own thing?
Then, it seems reasonable to say, "they went out from us because they were not of us". What makes anyone think they belonged to Christ, but he was unable to keep them?What if a person decides to reject all of that and do their own thing?
You did not answer my question in your last post about the same subject.Imagine a forum where those who are washed in the Blood of the Lamb, and who have God's Righteousness imputed to them, could celebrate together the Joy of Salvation, the Joy of the Lord, and find deep teaching for their spirit and rest for their soul.
Imagine a forum where Grace rules in the hearts of the born again, and all Threads that teach LEGALISM = Galatians 1:8 : false Gospels related to "self saving", "commandment keeping to stay saved".. "keeping the Torah to stay saved". "joining a certain church to stay saved" "repenting to stay saved", "confessing sin to stay saved"... all of this "FLESH", Galatians 3 these works of the flesh, that are preached as a hellish substitute and cursed of God denial of the Blood Atonement and the Cross, were eliminated permanently.
Imagine a forum where Moderators and Owners instantly recognize the work of heretics, and understand that JOB #1 is to protect real born again believers from being harmed by their devil designed Theology, and do not allow them to remain on the forum according to Paul's doctrine :
Titus 3:10 : """ A person that is a heretic after the first and second admonition, REJECT."""
Imagine a forum where everyone understands that God saved you only once, and keeps you saved Himself. Philippians 1:6
What a Forum of LIGHT that Forum would be.
But instead...........
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So, let me explain for you exactly where a Believer stops being a believer and starts being a heretic. We go to Paul, as he defined them. He says of them in Galatians 3.... "who has tricked you, bewitched you, fooled you, deceived you", so that you have stopped trusting in Christ alone FOR salvation, both to be saved and to STAY saved, and now you are returned BELIEVING THAT keeping the Law, obeying the commandments, and doing WORKS, = YOUR GOSPEL. = YOUR FAITH...... and That is "flesh". Its Carnal, Its a person who is "fallen from Grace", back into the "flesh", and is now hanging on their own cross of self righteousness.... according to Paul.
"Self Righteousness", = trying to make yourself RIGHT with God, by your WORKS ,EFFORT, DEEDS, LIFESTYLE. = "commandment keeping, law keeping, obedience keeping,, repenting, confessing, church membership, holy living"....
See, the problem isn't doing all that......all those works, but the Legalist, the Heretic, has exchanged them for the CROSS. And that is why they never talk, preach, or teach, about THE CROSS, or the Blood of Jesus.
NEVER !!
They instead talk about their "new" savior......Which is themselves, , and they have their list that they have exchanged for Jesus on the Cross. This list is always the same list, no matter the heretic. Paul said this list is "FLESH", and that is because where a LIST has replaced the Blood Atonement...then Jesus is no longer being counted worthy as the One who saves them and keeps them saved.
Here is how it works.... This is the NT math... = If you are born again, and are trying to keep yourself out of Hell, or trying to get yourself into Heaven, ... then you are not Trusting in Christ at all. You are trusting in YOU. and so, Your faith is DEAD.
This is why the proof of heresy, is always one thing.........always........ The heretic, who Paul describes as in the "flesh", fallen from Grace"< will never be able to truthfully say that they are Trusting in Christ alone, to keep them saved..... This is why "once saved always saved" is the Proof test that illuminates all heretics, beginning in Paul's day, till the 2nd Advent.
Listen Reader.. Someone saves you and keeps you saved. And its not you. So, when you are being taught that it IS YOU...then you are hearing what Paul defined as "another Gospel". Galatians 1:8
Heretics can't agree with OSAS, as it would not be true that they believe that Christ saved them and Keeps them saved.. They are trusting in themselves to get into heaven and stay out of Hell, and that is why they only talk talk talk talk about commandments, and works, and live to oppose Grace.
Grace teaches that there is ONE SAVIOR, and He is the Lord Jesus The Christ. And His Blood that has made you the "righteousness of Christ" and an "heir of God", and a "joint heir with Jesus", and "accepted in the Beloved", is why and ONLY WHY.... you go to heaven and not to hell.
Thats the Gospel. There is no Other. Jesus Himself is Salvation. Jesus Himself is Grace. We are sinners who God allows into Heaven, only because of JESUS.
Any other Gospel that you will hear, that does not give all Credit to Christ Alone for saving you and keeping you saved, is a false Gospel.
Moderators and Owners instantly recognize the work of heretics, and understand that JOB #1 is to protect real born again believers from being harmed by their devil designed Theology,
Your theology is legalism defined perfectly by Paul
Here is what Paul says
i have spent a lot of time with Paul.
Paul wrote that.
If you’re not following Paul you are disobedient to Jesus. Everything Paul wrote came from Jesus.Lots of quotes about Paul this or Paul that....i have just one question. Do you follow Jesus or Paul?
'Grace is opposed to earning, not to effort' - Dallas WillardImagine a forum where those who are washed in the Blood of the Lamb, and who have God's Righteousness imputed to them, could celebrate together the Joy of Salvation, the Joy of the Lord, and find deep teaching for their spirit and rest for their soul.
Imagine a forum where Grace rules in the hearts of the born again, and all Threads that teach LEGALISM = Galatians 1:8 : false Gospels related to "self saving", "commandment keeping to stay saved".. "keeping the Torah to stay saved". "joining a certain church to stay saved" "repenting to stay saved", "confessing sin to stay saved"... all of this "FLESH", Galatians 3 these works of the flesh, that are preached as a hellish substitute and cursed of God denial of the Blood Atonement and the Cross, were eliminated permanently.
Imagine a forum where Moderators and Owners instantly recognize the work of heretics, and understand that JOB #1 is to protect real born again believers from being harmed by their devil designed Theology, and do not allow them to remain on the forum according to Paul's doctrine :
Titus 3:10 : """ A person that is a heretic after the first and second admonition, REJECT."""
Imagine a forum where everyone understands that God saved you only once, and keeps you saved Himself. Philippians 1:6
What a Forum of LIGHT that Forum would be.
But instead...........
==========================================================
So, let me explain for you exactly where a Believer stops being a believer and starts being a heretic. We go to Paul, as he defined them. He says of them in Galatians 3.... "who has tricked you, bewitched you, fooled you, deceived you", so that you have stopped trusting in Christ alone FOR salvation, both to be saved and to STAY saved, and now you are returned BELIEVING THAT keeping the Law, obeying the commandments, and doing WORKS, = YOUR GOSPEL. = YOUR FAITH...... and That is "flesh". Its Carnal, Its a person who is "fallen from Grace", back into the "flesh", and is now hanging on their own cross of self righteousness.... according to Paul.
"Self Righteousness", = trying to make yourself RIGHT with God, by your WORKS ,EFFORT, DEEDS, LIFESTYLE. = "commandment keeping, law keeping, obedience keeping,, repenting, confessing, church membership, holy living"....
See, the problem isn't doing all that......all those works, but the Legalist, the Heretic, has exchanged them for the CROSS. And that is why they never talk, preach, or teach, about THE CROSS, or the Blood of Jesus.
NEVER !!
They instead talk about their "new" savior......Which is themselves, , and they have their list that they have exchanged for Jesus on the Cross. This list is always the same list, no matter the heretic. Paul said this list is "FLESH", and that is because where a LIST has replaced the Blood Atonement...then Jesus is no longer being counted worthy as the One who saves them and keeps them saved.
Here is how it works.... This is the NT math... = If you are born again, and are trying to keep yourself out of Hell, or trying to get yourself into Heaven, ... then you are not Trusting in Christ at all. You are trusting in YOU. and so, Your faith is DEAD.
This is why the proof of heresy, is always one thing.........always........ The heretic, who Paul describes as in the "flesh", fallen from Grace"< will never be able to truthfully say that they are Trusting in Christ alone, to keep them saved..... This is why "once saved always saved" is the Proof test that illuminates all heretics, beginning in Paul's day, till the 2nd Advent.
Listen Reader.. Someone saves you and keeps you saved. And its not you. So, when you are being taught that it IS YOU...then you are hearing what Paul defined as "another Gospel". Galatians 1:8
Heretics can't agree with OSAS, as it would not be true that they believe that Christ saved them and Keeps them saved.. They are trusting in themselves to get into heaven and stay out of Hell, and that is why they only talk talk talk talk about commandments, and works, and live to oppose Grace.
Grace teaches that there is ONE SAVIOR, and He is the Lord Jesus The Christ. And His Blood that has made you the "righteousness of Christ" and an "heir of God", and a "joint heir with Jesus", and "accepted in the Beloved", is why and ONLY WHY.... you go to heaven and not to hell.
Thats the Gospel. There is no Other. Jesus Himself is Salvation. Jesus Himself is Grace. We are sinners who God allows into Heaven, only because of JESUS.
Any other Gospel that you will hear, that does not give all Credit to Christ Alone for saving you and keeping you saved, is a false Gospel.
This argument would have more weight if the thread was conducted with a humble and loving attitude. I don't see brotherly kindness, and the rest of the fruit of the Spirit within it.
Ecclesiastes 7:20.The free gift of God is that He has forgiven our previous sins. But he requires that we stop committing them.
If you’re not following Paul you are disobedient to Jesus. Everything Paul wrote came from Jesus.
You are merely repeating your own opinion.
Imagine a forum where Grace rules in the hearts of the born again, and all Threads that teach LEGALISM = Galatians 1:8 : false Gospels related to "self saving", "commandment keeping to stay saved".. "keeping the Torah to stay saved". "joining a certain church to stay saved" "repenting to stay saved", "confessing sin to stay saved"... all of this "FLESH", Galatians 3 these works of the flesh,
What are the commandments?Paul teaches what the works of the flesh are -
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21
Please stop promoting the heresy that keeping His commandments is the works of the flesh.
Keeping His commandments is how we remain “in Christ”.
Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24
If we do not remain in Christ, then we will be cast not the fire and burned.
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6
Knowing the truth will make you free.
Continuing in His word is how we know the truth.
JLB
Revelation promises rewards for those who overcome.
What are the commandments?
first sentence of the post is wrong. What am I to think about the rest of it? Seriously, how does one consider the rest if the post when sentence one is wrong?Imagine a forum where those who are washed in the Blood of the Lamb, and who have God's Righteousness imputed to them
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