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Discussion in 'Spirit-Filled / Charismatic' started by Victor E., Aug 13, 2016.

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  1. Victor E.

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    I like this very much. There was a baptism of fire and a crucifixion process before there was a resurrection of the glorified Messiah. (Luke 12:49-53, Isaiah 53).

    There are many ministries preaching the resurrection of Christ and neglecting the crucifixion of the Flesh (the nailing of the Sin Nature on the cross with Him Colossians 2:11-15).

    Any such Gospel is a different Gospel from the one in the Bible and I do not wish to associate with such lofty pontifications. Such ministries are likely missing the fire of the Holy Spirit.

     
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    God promised to provide for our every need. (Philippians 4:19). He also says...

    'Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.” Do not receive an accusation against an elder except from two or three witnesses. Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear' 1 Timothy 5:17-20 (NKJV)

    Taking this into account, God has never given anyone permission to abuse the Gospel of Jesus Christ for personal lucrative gain. (Acts 8:9-25, James 1-2, Luke 12:22-34, 1 Timothy 6:3-10, Matthew 4:1-11, Luke 12:13-21, Matthew 19:16-22, 1 John 2:15-17, 2 Timothy 4:9-14, 2 John 1:7-9).

    The 'prosperity Gospel'...the founding fathers of the Prosperity Gospel are...Balaam, Judas Iscariot, Simon the Sorcerer, and Ananias and Saphira. (2 Peter 2, Jude 1).

    If anyone is teaching or sharing supernatural experiences that say it is God's will that people serve mammon...or that He's backing such people up...they are in serious error and need to repent. I'm sorry but they are listening to Satan, the god of this world. I don't care how 'anointed' they claim to be, or how many followers they have. God is not speaking from heaven and saying this is ok (Jeremiah 23:9-20).

    Here Paul (speaking in the Holy Spirit) says it best...

    'I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.

    But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

    For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.' Galatians 1:6-10 (NKJV)

    I really just felt a conviction to say this...take it to the Holy Spirit. Pray about it and ask Him. That is all.
     
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    It's one thing to jump on the 'doom and gloom' hype train because of what we now see.

    It's another thing to have been consistently faithful in the convictions of Sound Doctrine for years, concerning what we didn't see. God honors that kind of unwavering faith.

    'Now Jesus was telling the disciples a parable to make the point that at all times they ought to pray and not give up and lose heart, saying, “In a certain city there was a judge who did not fear God and had no respect for man. There was a [desperate] widow in that city and she kept coming to him and saying, ‘Give me justice and legal protection from my adversary.’

    For a time he would not; but later he said to himself, ‘Even though I do not fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow continues to bother me, I will give her justice and legal protection; otherwise by continually coming she [will be an intolerable annoyance and she] will wear me out.’” Then the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says!

    And will not [our just] God defend and avenge His elect [His chosen ones] who cry out to Him day and night? Will He delay [in providing justice] on their behalf? I tell you that He will defend and avenge them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find [this kind of persistent] faith on the earth?' Luke 18:1-8 (AMP)

    'Woe (judgment is coming) to those who call evil good, and good evil;
    Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;
    Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

    Woe (judgment is coming) to those who are wise in their own eyes
    And clever and shrewd in their own sight!

    Woe (judgment is coming) to those who are heroes at drinking wine
    And men of strength in mixing intoxicating drinks,

    Who justify the wicked and acquit the guilty for a bribe,
    And take away the rights of those who are in the right!' Isaiah 5:20-23 (AMP)

    I hope this encourages someone.
     
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    'My heart within me is broken
    Because of the prophets;
    All my bones shake.
    I am like a drunken man,
    And like a man whom wine has overcome,
    Because of the Lord,
    And because of His holy words.

    For the land is full of adulterers;
    For because of a curse the land mourns.
    The pleasant places of the wilderness are dried up.
    Their course of life is evil,
    And their might is not right.
    “For both prophet and priest are profane;
    Yes, in My house I have found their wickedness,” says the Lord.

    “Therefore their way shall be to them
    Like slippery ways;
    In the darkness they shall be driven on
    And fall in them;
    For I will bring disaster on them,
    The year of their punishment,” says the Lord.
    “And I have seen folly in the prophets of Samaria:
    They prophesied by Baal
    And caused My people Israel to err.

    Also I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem:
    They commit adultery and walk in lies;
    They also strengthen the hands of evildoers,
    So that no one turns back from his wickedness.
    All of them are like Sodom to Me,
    And her inhabitants like Gomorrah.

    “Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets:

    ‘Behold, I will feed them with wormwood,
    And make them drink the water of gall;
    For from the prophets of Jerusalem
    Profaneness has gone out into all the land.’”
    Thus says the Lord of hosts:

    “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you.
    They make you worthless;
    They speak a vision of their own heart,
    Not from the mouth of the Lord.

    They continually say to those who despise Me,
    ‘The Lord has said, “You shall have peace”’;
    And to everyone who walks according to the dictates of his own heart, they say,
    ‘No evil shall come upon you.’”

    For who has stood in the counsel of the Lord,
    And has perceived and heard His word?
    Who has marked His word and heard it?

    Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth in fury—
    A violent whirlwind!
    It will fall violently on the head of the wicked.
    The anger of the Lord will not turn back
    Until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart.
    In the latter days you will understand it perfectly' Jeremiah 23:9-20 (NKJV)
     
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    This is probably beyond most people's level (most are using the Roman Catholic Church's perverted translations), but for serious Bible Scholars...you may find this interesting. This video was published on Nov 24, 2016

     
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    These teachings are excellent instruction. I think a lot of the Church Body still doesn't understand how the Kingdom of God works.

     
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    These teachings are excellent instruction. I think a lot of the Church Body still doesn't understand how the Kingdom of God works.

     
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    Praying for our enemies. It is a good spiritual discipline. When they get blessed, it is measured back (Luke 6:38). Love it. This means we can bless Trump, bless people we disagree with, and bless North America!

    'You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

    He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?

    Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect' Matthew 5:43-48
     
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    Praying for our enemies. It is a good spiritual discipline. When they get blessed, it is measured back (Luke 6:38). Love it. This means we can bless Trump, bless people we disagree with, and bless North America!

    'You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor (fellow man) and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love [that is, unselfishly seek the best or higher good for] your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may [show yourselves to] be the children of your Father who is in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on those who are evil and on those who are good, and makes the rain fall on the righteous [those who are morally upright] and the unrighteous [the unrepentant, those who oppose Him].

    For if you love [only] those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do that? And if you greet only your brothers [wishing them God’s blessing and peace], what more [than others] are you doing? Do not even the Gentiles [who do not know the Lord] do that? You, therefore, will be perfect [growing into spiritual maturity both in mind and character, actively integrating godly values into your daily life], as your heavenly Father is perfect.' Matthew 5:43-48 (AMP)
     
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    Another good passage to integrate into our daily life of prayer. This balances out the injustice. God is not unfair, He is a God who delights in justice (Jeremiah 9:24). It's not a one-sided street. Even Paul recognized this fact (Luke 18:1-8, Genesis 18:22-33).

    'Bless those who persecute you [who cause you harm or hardship]; bless and do not curse [them]. Rejoice with those who rejoice [sharing others’ joy], and weep with those who weep [sharing others’ grief]. Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty [conceited, self-important, exclusive], but associate with humble people [those with a realistic self-view]. Do not overestimate yourself.

    Never repay anyone evil for evil. Take thought for what is right and gracious and proper in the sight of everyone. If possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave the way open for God’s wrath [and His judicial righteousness]; for it is written [in Scripture], “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord.

    But if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him a drink; for by doing this you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome and conquered by evil, but overcome evil with good' Romans 12:14-21 (AMP)
     
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    'And He said, Be on your guard and be careful that you are not led astray; for many will come in My name [appropriating to themselves the name Messiah which belongs to Me], saying, I am He! and, The time is at hand! Do not go out after them.

    And when you hear of wars and insurrections (disturbances, disorder, and confusion), do not become alarmed and panic-stricken and terrified; for all this must take place first, but the end will not [come] immediately.

    Then He told them, Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom' Luke 21:8-10 (AMP)
     
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    Believers are often in different spiritual states. But the Church is largely carnal and cannot see spiritual realities and truths.

    Some of the people in the average Church congregation are more spiritually mature than all the Church staff combined. [​IMG]

    Most reject 'spiritual levels'...but Christ consistently favored Peter James and JOHN over the 9 and never apologized for it.

    Christ operated by logic and the divine reason (Logos). It was logical to elect comrades based on belief, not their friendship.

    Many carnal Churches incorrectly equate friendliness (speaking encouragement, positivity, love) and worldly credentials (Bible degrees, Years of service, Age) with spiritual maturity.

    While these can be admirable attributes, they are still looking at the flesh and appearance. It is a carnal method of judgment (1 Corinthians 3:1-9) and this carnality can lead others into error. 'Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch' Matthew 15:14

    The fruitfulness of such organizations is likely to be more co-dependent on people who know God, rather than their leadership teams and staff. Spiritual maturity is directly tied to obedience toward God.

    It is for this reason, many a Church dries up. You see it will always show in the end, no matter how well it is hidden. (1 Timothy 5:24, Luke 8:16-18, Galatians 6:1-8)

    'There is an evil I have seen under the sun, like an error which goes forth from the ruler— folly is set in many exalted places while rich men sit in humble places. I have seen slaves riding on horses and princes walking like slaves on the land' Ecclesiastes 10:5-7

    'There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death' Proverbs 14:12
     
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    I know of a lot of famous Charismatic Christian celebrities who give the pope hugs and take pictures with the papacy to improve their self-image and boost the publicity of their ministry (it's 'loving' right?)...but the pope is not a believer. He has an Antichrist spirit. If believers keep ignorantly labeling everything they disagree with 'religious' and 'judgemental' they may get burned. (Proverbs 6:27)

    Why do believers keep defending wolves even after they profess the spirit of the anti-Christ with their own mouths (1 John 4:3, Luke 6:45)? They are in error (Jude 1). There's a point where you have to accept the reality of 2 Peter 2, Hebrews 6:4-8 and 1 Thessalonians 2:1-12...assuming you have read and accepted the harder passages in the bible.

     
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    This word...[​IMG]. This is the primary cause for the offence and division in the Ekklesia, a severe lack of cross-pollination. The world is a big place

    'CROSS-POLLINATION IS HEALTHY

    LEADERS - please DON'T GET SO STUCK in your own circles, so THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE as to what God is doing in others.

    Geneticists will tell you that inbreeding is definitely not healthy. It can create a variety of physical and mental challenges because less diversity or variety in your DNA means one is more susceptible to various genetic diseases.

    Cross-pollination is healthy. You can glean and learn from others outside your immediate group or circle or even movement. Don't just get stuck saying "we apostolic to the core" - "we prophetic" - "we deliverance" - "we holiness" - "we spiritual warfare" etc etc etc etc. You will take the chance of getting inbred - and possibly so strange that "normal" people will not want to connect with you.

    Cross-pollinating does not mean you have to lose your distinctiveness. But it means you recognize that God is working in other places and in different ways, and you could possibly learn something new that might help you grow as a leader, or grow your ministry.

    It may actually help you "package" and "present" your distinctive in a way that people will actually be drawn to you and want to know the "goods" you have.

    Axel Sippach'
     
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    Good Word.

    'PROPHECY: SIMON THE SCORERERS ARE RISING

    I see more of a hunger in the prophetic movement to obtain power than to walk in intimacy. I see more of a desire to live under the anointing than to demonstrate Christlike character. I see more of an appetite to publicly prophesy over thousands than to privately pray to the Father in heaven. I see more of an obsession to chase after someone else’s prophetic mantle than to giving our time to discovering our own unique divine design given by the Father alone. I see more of an urge to chase gold dust, feathers and angels than to encounter the person of Jesus Christ.

    All of these pursuits lead to one terrifying end: The rise of a generation of “Simon the Sorcerers” who are currently operating in illegitimate authority!

    These individuals carry an appearance of walking in deep relationship with Jesus, but in reality, they are collateral damage to the body of Christ. These men and women are dangerous, their motives are impure, and what they primarily pursue and emphasize causes them to live in continual dysfunction. One of the main reasons the prophetic movement is headed for shipwreck is because we are continuing to honor and give individuals positions of authority that have quit on intimacy. These prophetic individuals consistently tear down with their character what they have built with their gifting.

    The Story of Simon

    The account of Simon the Sorcerer is told in Acts 8:9, when it says, “Now a man named Simon was previously in the city practicing sorcery and astonishing the nation of Samaria, saying he was someone great, to whom they all listened, from the least to the greatest, saying, ‘This man is the great power of God.’ They listened to him, because for a long time he had astonished them by his sorceries.”

    Phillip began preaching the good news of the kingdom in Samaria and many men and women were baptized. Even Simon the Sorcerer himself believed and was baptized and immediately started following Phillip because he was amazed at the miracles taking place. When Peter and John heard that Samaria was receiving the word of God, they came down and began to pray that people might receive the Holy Spirit. Laying hands on the new believers, many of them began to be filled and touched by God.

    In Acts 8:18-24 it says: “When Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, saying, ‘Give me also this power, that whomever I lay hands on may receive the Holy Spirit.’ Peter said to him, ‘May your money perish with you, because you thought you could purchase the gift of God with money! You have neither part nor share in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Therefore repent of your wickedness, and ask God if perhaps the intention of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity.’ Then Simon answered, ‘Pray to the Lord for me that nothing you have spoken may come upon me.’”

    One of the keys to understanding the deception Simon the Sorcerer lived in is to identify what he hungered for. He said to Peter and John, “Give this authority to me as well.” Simon’s desire for a position of influence and attention was the driving force behind his request to have the apostles lay hands on him. He was quickly becoming addicted to ministry and it was becoming an idol in his life.
    When this deadly deception overtakes an individual, destruction is right around the corner. Simon was not interested in deep union with Jesus. He was only interested in the miracle-working power of Jesus. All activity in the kingdom of God that is not born out of intimacy is unauthorized by heaven!

    Peter and John had not only walked with Jesus, but as the crowds noted in Acts 4:13 as the lame crippled beggar had been healed, “they had been with Jesus.” Peter and John had waited in the Upper Room to be filled with power from on high, but Simon the Sorcerer was looking for a quick impartation to launch him into ministry.

    Peter responds to Simon’s request and says, ” May your silver perish with you because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money!” In other words, Simon wanted authority and power so badly that he was willing to use soulish means to obtain them. Peter continues and says, “You have no part or portion in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Therefore, repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you.”

    I see thousands of Christian young adults in America who, like Simon the Sorcerer, are hungry for the supernatural and are therefore looking for an impartation, prayer or touch from a well-known leader in the body of Christ to launch them into their ministry. Rather than seeking intimacy with Jesus Christ and walking in true legitimate kingdom authority like Peter and John, many, just like Simon, are seeking a drive-thru experience because they are hungry for authority, but aren’t willing to obtain it legally through intimacy.

    Empowering Illegitimate Authority

    Church leaders have placed so much emphasis on activation and impartation in our prophetic and supernatural schools in America, and so little time connecting people to the character and nature of God and what Jesus is really like, that we ourselves have blessed and commissioned a generation of Simon the Sorcerers who are operating in illegitimate authority in the body of Christ.
    Because intimacy and deep union with Jesus Christ are no longer a focus in the prophetic movement, our horrendous levels of discernment have built stages for these Simon the Sorcerers and given them platforms. We have been incredibly gullible as leaders and therefore produced extremely gullible prophetic people.

    The good news is that a emerging prophetic company is rising in the earth will walk in legitimate authority because of their deep union with Jesus Christ and central pursuit of His character and nature. They have been trained and raised up by prophetic fathers and mothers who saw and understood early on that God was more interested in changing them than using them. This new prophetic generation is not obsessed by or enamored of another’s mantle or gifting, but simply enthralled by the invitation to come sit at the feet of Jesus.

    The Coming Distinction

    Instead of carrying a living and active spirit of revelation, Simon the Sorcerer types have to borrow revelation because they have no prayer life. Simon told Peter and John in verse 24, “Pray to the Lord for me yourselves, so that nothing of what you have said may come upon me.” The greatest distinction between this breed of Simon the Sorcerers and the emerging prophetic company rising in the earth will be deep intimacy with Jesus that can only be birthed through deep intercession and travail. Simon the Sorcerers are looking to get launched into ministry by another’s touch, but the new prophetic company emerging is looking to grow in humility under heaven’s touch. This can only be accomplished through prayer, fasting and time in the secret place'
     
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    Intimacy with the Word and obedience to the Holy Spirit will teach you everything supernatural. No class or school can compare.

    Supernatural schools can be edifying but Jesus is author and finisher of our faith. His teachings..far superior and cost $0.00.

    Much Church leadership in the U.S was not ordained by God, it was man. Romans 13:1 merely emphasizes His sovereignty, not approval.

    God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable. You can walk in gifting, and have little to no anointing of His favor. We need Jesus.

    The Story of Samson (Judges 16) serves as an example of someone who broke covenant and thought He was still in God's favor.

    God's measurements and expressions in the Word are spiritual. We need a spiritual mind to grasp the kindness and severity of God.

    'Jesus is God' Half-truth. He has also come in the flesh. The God man. Revelation should not replace Doctrine. Seeds of Confusion.
     
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    When voices say to ignore the darkness, they're actually telling you to embrace ignorance. Hosea 4:6 2 Timothy 2:15 Proverbs 1:22

    'Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity' MLKJ

    Faith does not deny facts. Some have died from cancer because they refused to believe they had it, rather than get prayer.

    When you favor certain passages of the Scriptures over others, you may arrive in some strange teachings of myths and fables.

    A big myth and fable is that a believer cannot be oppressed by demons. Their spirit cannot, but their flesh certainly can.

    Well-meaning individuals often sacrifice Scriptural Truths to accommodate personal comforts. The demons of innovation.

    Biblical demonology is a vast topic. Much of the Church is saying 'focus on Jesus' but it's done people harm. Ignorance. Hosea 4:6

    Discerning of spirits is not 'criticism', or 'judgment'. A Bonafide gift of the Holy Spirit that is quenched by the Church itself.

    Some go to supernatural schools of ministry and later need deliverance from various evil impartations.

    'Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: keep thyself pure' 1 Tim. 5:22. Not just ordination.

    This is why you don't allow just anyone to impart something. It's best to know someone's lifestyle before allowing impartation.

    Jesus fully authorized casting out of demons and devils, and evil spirits. Man has changed God's Word to suit personal comforts.

    There's a reason why some Churches have cemeteries connected to them. No Holy Spirit and the Church may be handed over to Satan.

    The name 'Satan' should not be alarming. It simply means everything that opposes God's plan and purpose. The adversary. The flesh.

    'Hell' is not simply a place of eternal punishment. On earth it's a state of being. Not abiding in Christ means we're in hell.

    When Jonah ran from God He was in hell (Sheol). The belly of the great fish for His disobedience. Jonah 2:2, 2 Peter 2:7-10

    Unforgiveness is a nasty spirit. The only spirit that can reverse heavenly decrees. It attracts a lot of darkness if left alone.

    The same ministers scoffing at Biblical demonology are the same ones perishing daily in their own ignorance. Truth anyhow.

    The cup of rejection. If you're a trailblazer in the Lord you must learn to drink it all and know that God is honoring you.

    Dreamed about false political alliances, covenants, and friendships. 'Not everything is as it seems'. Pray for Trump and leaders.

    There are many movements in the World and most of them thinking they're special snowflakes. Carnal. (1 Corinthians 3:1-9).

    It is written that an Antichrist spirit denies that Christ has come in the flesh (1 John 4:1-6). 'Jesus is God' is a half-truth.

    So, you can expect an increase of Biblical scrutiny and discernment. The Lord's raising up a remnant of Micaiah's in Jesus name.
     
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