The bible clearly states not to "spare the rod" when disciplining your child. Does this mean corporal punishment? If so, how do we go about this seeing that the laws are getting tougher and tougher on parents who spank their children?
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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
Spare the rod?
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jayswife29
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Not only are they getting tougher on parents who spank their children, but also for sticking them in the corner. How do I know this? In 1996 I was arrested for discipling my then 5 year old daughter for telling me to shut up. I put her in the corner at my moms house, she didnt like it and turned me in to child abuse. Next thing you know the cops are there arresting me for endangering the welfare of a minor. My personal opinion? People should let parents discipline their kids without getting involved. Thats half the reason why things are the way they are with younger people having no respect, no fear of authority, no remorse. No, instead of disciplining children we just throw them on some ritilan and call it a day.
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That's insane. When I was a teen I remember talking back to my dad. Next thing you know, I'm looking up at him from the flat of my back. Do I think he was always right in his discipline? No. Did it have the desired effect? Yes.
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jayswife29 said:
Oh nonono. That wouldn't fly here either. My two year old is getting to that point where she looks at mommy and daddy and shakes that little finger saying "NO NO Momma!!" She gets in trouble for that.
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Spare the rod and spoil the child.... This serves as a warning, but Americans seem to take this as advice: Hey, let's DO spare the rod and let's DO spoil the child.... Thank you God for such good advice!
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And that's why I see things like a 5yr old hitting his mother in the store because she wouldn't buy him candy. Or a teen telling her mother to shut up.
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Well, as with all things, this can be taken too far.
Don't forget what those laws are in place to stop.
I think if there is a child who has completely taken over the reigns of power from a parent it is more the psychology of the parent trying to please the child as opposed to the threat of physical punishment. I was never struck and the threat did not even exist, yet I am a respectful, functional member of society.
Don't forget what those laws are in place to stop.
I think if there is a child who has completely taken over the reigns of power from a parent it is more the psychology of the parent trying to please the child as opposed to the threat of physical punishment. I was never struck and the threat did not even exist, yet I am a respectful, functional member of society.
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Diatrive said:
Yes, I believe it can be taken too far. That is something most churches teach as well. Discipline out of love, not in your anger. If you are disciplining a child in your anger, you won't have that rational control over your actions most times.
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Discipline is one thing. It's important to offer firm, consistent discipline or else the child will not have expectations or understand proper behavior. I have difficulty when I see parents who make threats and don't carry them out, or who let the child run wild because they think they are showing love. However, I oppose hitting a child. That teaches you that violence is a good way to cope with issues, and it teaches fear, not respect. The reason you see children sassing back a lot is because on all their television shows that's what's presented as cool. In the time when hitting the child was common, you might also notice that social norms did not allow someone to scream at their mother or hit her. It's different now. Hitting the kid won't change it.
The best children I've ever nannied for lived in a home with no television, where they were treated as adults, no onne babytalked to them and they were never considered a chore. The worst was a house where lawyer daddy nenver saw the kids but would smack them for misbehavior when he was around. They're crack smoking teens now...
The best children I've ever nannied for lived in a home with no television, where they were treated as adults, no onne babytalked to them and they were never considered a chore. The worst was a house where lawyer daddy nenver saw the kids but would smack them for misbehavior when he was around. They're crack smoking teens now...
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