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[AwakeningTheColossus]

I'm bi, and I just wanted to know whether or not this was another ticket to eternal damnation. Cause if so, I'm in some deep trouble. And so is my woman.

Are there any denominations that accept homosexuals/bisexuals? Cause if God hates bisexuality, she might just have to change what church she goes to.

And btw, this is a completely honest question. I just want answers for me and my fiancee. kthx.

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[tapero]

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[PastorJim]

I'm bi, and I just wanted to know whether or not this was another ticket to eternal damnation. Cause if so, I'm in some deep trouble. And so is my woman.

All sin causes us to be deserving of Hell. Homosexuality (and the Bible makes no distinction between homosexuality and bisexuality) is no exception.

Are there any denominations that accept homosexuals/bisexuals? Cause if God hates bisexuality, she might just have to change what church she goes to.

What is her purpose for going to church?

Rather than just leaving because you don't like the message, wouldn't it be a better idea to stop for a moment and consider whether or not the message is true.

 

[FadingWhispers3]

I'm bi, and I just wanted to know whether or not this was another ticket to eternal damnation. Cause if so, I'm in some deep trouble. And so is my woman.

I don't think so. Since you are male and your fiancee is presumably female, christianity has nothing against heterosexual marriage.

God does not hate bisexuality. I'd go even further, but then it wouldn't be orthodox.

 

[PastorJim]

God does not hate bisexuality. I'd go even further, but then it wouldn't be orthodox.

God hates all sin. That's why He judges it so harshly.

 

[FadingWhispers3]

God hates all sin. That's why He judges it so harshly.

Certainly. If God did not hate sin, then Christ died in vain.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

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[steen]

God hates all sin. That's why He judges it so harshly.

But God DIDN'T say that we should take it on ourselves to judge or discriminate against those what God considers to be sinners.

 

[PastorJim]

God hates all sin. That's why He judges it so harshly.

Certainly. If God did not hate sin, then Christ died in vain.

So then, God does hate homosexuality/bisexuality.

 

[Merlin]

Sooo....

I'm bi, and I just wanted to know whether or not this was another ticket to eternal damnation. Cause if so, I'm in some deep trouble. And so is my woman.

Sin is a "ticket to eternal damnation".
It really doesn't matter what the sin is.

All of us have sinned and fallen short of God's desire.
That is why we need Jesus.

Is homosexuality/Bi-sexuality a sin? Yes.
But that really shouldn't be the focus.

The point is to humble ourselves, admit our failing to meet God's standard, and seek forgiveness.

 

[Caylin]

So then, God does hate homosexuality/bisexuality.

Ah the message of love. God hates you no matter what if you are homosexual, no matter than an omnipotent creater could take it away anytime he wanted to.

 

[DietCherryCola]

A good Christian church will accept you. The Bible says we're all sinners and if a church would turn away you, they'll have to turn away all.

I'm always surprised at the people who believe gays will go to Hell. Doesn't the Bible preach that anyone who believes goes to Heaven? Amazing how the tune changes when the sinner is gay.

I would recomend:

United Church of Christ
Episcopalians
ECLA (Luthern)
Presbyterian (PCUSA)
United Methodist Church
Quakers (Religious Society of Friends)

While all but the UCC and the Quakers have official positions against gay marriage, imo, those denominations have been very welcoming of homosexuals. I don't believe the UCC even recognizes homosexuality as a sin and I think the Presbyterians are headed fast that way.

 

[PastorJim]

Ah the message of love. God hates you no matter what if you are homosexual, no matter than an omnipotent creater could take it away anytime he wanted to.

God doesn't hate us, He hates sin. That's why the Romans tells us that "God demonstrated His great love for us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for the Ungodly".

 

[seebs]

To be very picky, even the most aggressive attempts to find condemnation for gays (and/or bis) in the Bible cannot move past a condemnation of gay sex. If you are in a straight relationship, then, they have no basis at all for condemning you.

Indeed, if they were paying attention to the playbook, they'd be cheering and upholding you as an example of how people with horrible scary gay "temptations" can be noble and choose the higher road.

But, as always, the quick opportunity to condemn someone to Hell wins out over, not just other doctrine, but even the doctrine generally presented.

Welcome to CF! I'm afraid that, if you read for comprehension, you're gonna be a bit lonely sometimes.

 

[Caylin]

God doesn't hate us, He hates sin. That's why the Romans tells us that "God demonstrated His great love for us in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for the Ungodly".

Ah so god hates homosexual acts and not the inclination. I could have sworn you said god hated homosexuality.

 

[HisEagle]

I'm bi, and I just wanted to know whether or not this was another ticket to eternal damnation. Cause if so, I'm in some deep trouble. And so is my woman.

Are there any denominations that accept homosexuals/bisexuals? Cause if God hates bisexuality, she might just have to change what church she goes to.

And btw, this is a completely honest question. I just want answers for me and my fiancee. kthx.

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ATC, since you and "your woman" are bisexual, does that mean you both have sex with other people, regardless of the gender?

If so, doesn't that bother you? I mean, in a relationship, I would want someone to be committed to me alone. I wouldn't be able to deal with them having sex with anyone else. Biblically speaking, that is fornication - regardless of any issue/question pertaining to sexual orientation. Furthermore, if you are married, that would be considered adultery. Fornication and adultery are clearly identified as sin in the Bible.

If you do NOT have sex with anyone else, then aside from the issue of pre-marital sex - presuming there is any - I don't understand what difference it makes.

 

[PastorJim]

A good Christian church will accept you.

The church is commanded by scripture to discipline those who live in unrepentant sin by removing them from the church. If it was truly a good church, then it's first obligation is to the authority of scripture.

The Bible says we're all sinners and if a church would turn away you, they'll have to turn away all.

Not true. The Bible says that we have all sinned, but it never refers to believers as sinners.

"Sinners" in the Bible always refers to those who are living in unrepentant sin.

I'm always surprised at the people who believe gays will go to Hell.

All sinners go to Hell, unless they repent of their sins and embrace Christ as Lord and Savior.

Doesn't the Bible preach that anyone who believes goes to Heaven?

Yes. Those who repent of their sin and take Christ as their Savior.

I would recomend:

United Church of Christ
Episcopalians
ECLA (Luthern)
Presbyterian (PCUSA)
United Methodist Church
Quakers (Religious Society of Friends)

If you're sick, then would you go to a doctor who would help you to get better, or would you go to a doctor who would just tell you that you aren't really sick?

It's no different with sin.

Going to a church that's not going to tell you the truth about sin or how we can be forgiven doesn't help. It's a place to massage the ego, but what good is that if you still die in your sins and go to Hell?

 

[PastorJim]

Ah so god hates homosexual acts and not the inclination. I could have sworn you said god hated homosexuality.

God hates homosexuality, God gave His son for the homosexual. However, Christ did not die for sinners so that they could keep on in their sin.

 

[seebs]

God hates homosexuality, God gave His son for the homosexual. However, Christ did not die for sinners so that they could keep on in their sin.

What you seem to have missed is that the OP is not talking about any gay sex; he's talking about being bisexual.

In English, the words "heterosexual", "homosexual", and "bisexual" describe, not any action anyone takes, but the set of people for whom a given person is likely to feel sexual or romantic desire.

Most people do not have sex with even a statistically significant fraction of the people they feel desire for.

You have to distinguish between being a person who has desires, and acting on those desires.

 

[HisEagle]

Not true. The Bible says that we have all sinned, but it never refers to believers as sinners.

Not true. Paul referred to himself as chief among sinners.