Something cosmic like what she says...but make it more "Jesusy"!

[2PhiloVoid]

What does it mean to "add a whole lot of Jesus to it"?

On another note, can you break down for me what "Jesusy" means?

Thank you kindly.

Something like the Nicene Creed, but more COSMIC and Existential in scope: That "Jesusy."

 

[brinny]

Something like the Nicene Creed, but more COSMIC and Existential in scope: That "Jesusy."

Not following you.

Would you be so kind as to elaborate on what that means exactly?

Thank you.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Not following you.

Would be so kind as to elaborate on what that means exactly?

Thank you.

Sure, but I only allow three Socratic questions per interlocutor.

It's like this: Jesus is not only Lord and Savior of those persons on this planet who respond to Him, but He is also the Creator of our entire COSMOS, and in our existential outlook as we ponder the vast expanse beyond the reaches of our imagination, and as we contend with our living of life, however wracked with pain and doubt we may be, there is still meaning here that is provided by God in Christ through His Spirit.

Yes, I know. You're concerned that I may be a false teacher who is importing "foreign objects" into the sanctity of our common Christian Faith. Well, don't worry, I'm not doing that. But as Mayim mentions at the end of her video, as her content pertains to her point of view, I too have a more BioLogos approach to my Christian Faith. And that's my story--and I'm sticking to it.

 

[brinny]

Sure, but I only allow three Socratic questions per interlocutor.

It's like this: Jesus is not only Lord and Savior of those persons on this planet who respond to Him, but He is also the Creator of our entire COSMOS, and in our existential outlook as we ponder the vast expanse beyond the reaches of our imagination, and as we contend with our living of life, however wracked with pain and doubt we may be, there is still meaning here that is provided by God in Christ through His Spirit.

Yes, I know. You're concerned that I may be a false teacher who is importing "foreign objects" into the sanctity of our common Christian Faith. Well, don't worry, I'm not doing that. But as Mayim mentions at the end of her video, as her content pertains to her point of view, I too have a more BioLogos approach to my Christian Faith. And that's my story--and I'm sticking to it.

Simply seeking more clarity in not only the title of your thread, but your posts. Thus the questions.

And as you stated in an earlier post about the purpose of this forum, that is the purpose of this forum. To seek clarity.

Thank you kindly.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Simply seeking more clarity in not only the title of your thread, but your posts. Thus the questions.

And as you stated in an earlier post about the purpose of this forum, that is the purpose of this forum. To seek clarity.

Thank you kindly.

Ok. That sounds fair. Now, care to watch the video and comment, Sister brinny?

 

[brinny]

Ok. That sounds fair. Now, care to watch the video and comment, Sister brinny?

As i stated earlier, unfortunately said persons hypocrisy precedes her.

 

[GeorgeJ]

Ok. That sounds fair. Now, care to watch the video and comment, Sister brinny?

I wish folks would watch before commenting. The comments should be about the content of the video and not opinions about the person making the video.

I'm guilty for getting sucked into it, though.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Whoa, not the direction I'd have expected this thread to take.

But great video. A little bit too deistic for my tastes, but great points all the same. It's a pity she can't get any of this through to the creators of the Big Bang Theory, at least from what I've seen of the show. But I do not watch it regularly, so maybe it's gotten more even-handed with its take on religion.

...maybe she is just a little bit deistic, but hey, were you really think'n God was going to intervene and save that parking-space for you?

 

[GeorgeJ]

...maybe she is just a little bit deistic, but hey, were you really think'n God was going to intervene and save that parking-space for you?

I've known folks who've prayed for things even more more self-serving that that!

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I've known folks who've prayed for things even more more self-serving that that!

That almost sounds like the cue for another thread, but heck, why not here, so: Sounds interesting, what did they pray for........pray tell?

 

[GeorgeJ]

That almost sounds like the cue for another thread, but heck, why not here, so: Sounds interesting, what did they pray for........pray tell?

Way off topic for this thread!

I helped almost derail it already. Just tryin' to get the focus back on the video!

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Way off topic for this thread!

I already helped almost derail it already. Just tryin' to get the focus back on the video!

Ok then. So, in the video, was Mayim "deistic" enough for you, George? Or did you sense that she was still hinting at something a bit more than just deism?

 

[Silmarien]

...maybe she is just a little bit deistic, but hey, were you really think'n God was going to intervene and save that parking-space for you?

Oh, I don't mean that part. Specifically where she talks about God as somehow being the laws of the universe. It's a very immanent conception of God, with no reference to transcendence. I have seen deists talk like that before, though technically speaking it's probably pantheistic rather than deistic.

 

[GeorgeJ]

Ok then. So, in the video, was Mayim "deistic" enough for you, George? Or did you sense that she was still hinting at something a bit more than just deism?

Yup. She was "deistic" enough for me. In fact, she sounded more deistic than Judaic, but I believe that may be the "scientist" side of her.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Oh, I don't mean that part. Specifically where she talks about God as somehow being the laws of the universe. It's a very immanent conception of God, with no reference to transcendence. I have seen deists talk like that before, though technically speaking it's probably pantheistic rather than deistic.

...from my more Christian view, I'd be ok with a more (~) panentheistic than pantheist conception. In fact, maybe I am a panentheist....of sorts.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yup. She was "deistic" enough for me. In fact, she sounded more deistic than Judaic, but I believe that may be the "scientist" side of her.

She sounded something like an Existentialist to me. But, "a little here, a little there!"

 

[Silmarien]

...from my more Christian view, I'd be ok with a more (~) panentheistic than pantheist conception. In fact, maybe I am a panentheist....of sorts.

Yeah, I'm a panentheist, so I'm cool with saying that God is in some sense the laws governing the universe. It just needs another step beyond, since those laws don't really explain themselves just because you identify them with God.

@GeorgeJ, what does deism mean to you? I can never figure out just what it means anymore when divorced from the 18th century context. Are we still at clockmaker God or has the concept of deism changed?

She sounded something like an Existentialist to me. But, "a little here, a little there!"

Really? I didn't really get that impression.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yup. She was "deistic" enough for me. In fact, she sounded more deistic than Judaic, but I believe that may be the "scientist" side of her.

...I've always tended to conceptualize 'deism' as more along the lines of saying, "We believe in a higher power, and He made some stuff, but He's way, way, way .... OUT THERE, so don't you worry about Him showing up for dinner!" But, that's probably a bad characterization. Or maybe I've read too much Thomas Paine and Thomas Jefferson. (Man, what's up with the Doubting Thomas thing?)

 

[GeorgeJ]

She sounded something like an Existentialist to me. But, "a little here, a little there!"

Maybe....but many existentialists have a disdain for reason. I don't believe she is advocating that at all.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yeah, I'm a panentheist, so I'm cool with saying that God is in some sense the laws governing the universe. It just needs another step beyond, since those laws don't really explain themselves just because you identify them with God.

@GeorgeJ, what does deism mean to you? I can never figure out just what it means anymore when divorced from the 18th century context. Are we still at clockmaker God or has the concept of deism changed?



Really? I didn't really get that impression.

Well, she seems to be willing to 'extend' herself to some moral actions in response to her "awe" of the universe, and the fact that she was also fully aware of the seeming paradox that......uh, "we exist, and we can't see how, really! Ain't it amazing!"