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Let's look at this closely...

Every day, I pass in front of a group of strip clubs. Sometimes, I talk to one of the girls who (apparently) works in one of the clubs.

Am I doing something wrong?

I think it more has to do with laying in bed with another woman and probrobly saying, "Hey! dont judge my HEART by my body, because fornicating with her is just not in there (as you might suppose) because of how it might appear (in that way).

Jesus talked to sinners, but I dont think you would find him (positionally so) in bed with one doing that and then saying, now, now, dont judge by appearances (in that way).
 
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It is a great concern.
I'm spirit filled and I don't even wear a WWJD bracelet IN CASE someone
were to misunderstand something I did or said.

Yeah, it's a great concern to me if it's written.

The Christians were persecuted for having the appearance of evil for not sacrificing to the gods.

Of course they were right not to - even though it appeared evil (as in disorderly, and risking the good of the empire, etc.) to the culture.
 
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Let's look at this closely...

Every day, I pass in front of a group of strip clubs. Sometimes, I talk to one of the girls who (apparently) works in one of the clubs.

Am I doing something wrong?

There's a seven year old boy in my head ya know. HE says there's absolutely nothing wrong with talking to strippers.

Heh. I think he's right!
 
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Well come on down to my local homeless shelter and let those folks know will ya!!
that's exactly what you yourself can do.
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me to
proclaim good news
to
the poor

Unlike Protestantism,
I"m not protestant.
I am not a fan of pulling one passage of scripture out of the bible and building an entire theology or worldview out of it...
That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church...

Elizabeth gave a glad cry and exclaimed to Mary,
"God has blessed you above all women...


Frankly, I find it insulting to insinuate that life's obstacles/problems/issues are due to one's lack of faith and wrong focus...
You're talking to the wrong person.
HE said it:

Matthew 16:8 Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked, "You of little faith, why are you talking among yourselves about having no bread?

Matthew 6:30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you--you of little faith?

Matthew 14:31 Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"

16 And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
17 Then Jesus answered and said, O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

...Why could not we cast him out?
20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief...


And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.


 
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wow that's some messed up un-biblical stuff.
"thou shalt not steal" what part of that says unless ya have to?
SMH
Objectively speaking, you're right. But God is a God of mercy. He knows our hearts.

But there are many definitions of steal that speak of the intent of taking an object. So, if your child needs food, and you're unable to give it to him of your own merit, in God's eyes your taking some from someone else for your child is not stealing. Stealing also implies taking for your own use.
 
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It's always hard to imagine what gravity and time do to us ... looking at my husband and myself; the gray hair and aches and pains
 
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Well considering that Sunday isn't a holy day, and that Mass is done pretty much every day of the week, can't say that I would classify such a thing as idolatry.
Weekday Mass is different from Sunday Mass. Sunday may not be a holy day for you, but for Christians, we worship on the day of the Resurrection.
 
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We shouldn't attract people to church with gimmicks...

True about the praying, but for us, praying is not enough...you have to worship God on Sunday.
 
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The Christians were persecuted for having the appearance of evil for not sacrificing to the gods.

Of course they were right not to - even though it appeared evil (as in disorderly, and risking the good of the empire, etc.) to the culture.

Yeah it also says...

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

One they of the world who do such things such as do sacrifice unto gods and dumb idols and then I suppose ones brother who might take more of an offense in that case which (to them) might ressemble what the world does (or at least did much moreso back then) with which they might question. Like they can be right on the line, a line creating a difference (or a division) one in the conscience (in which he might feel damned partaking in). And so, if he is considered weaker in conscience (if that is how he is considered) is unable to do those things (which are not relevant anyway). For instance in the case of cement kissing and kneeling before cement (etc etc) to hold those acts of greater importance then the brothers who stumble at it would show which is of greater imporatnce (in truth). The cement over the brother, or at least it can be read that way.
 
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The point is that it's people's judgement of Jesus that was evil, not what he was doing.
That's what I said.

And this is the same thing as making a judgement of someone's prayer attitude.
Could be.
It would depend on the situation and what God's saying /doing.
 
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We shouldn't attract people to church with gimmicks...
We didn't LOL
It's just what happens there.
IT's kind of like a family reunion
where we all worship the Dad and
we do it LOUDLY and with great joy


True about the praying, but for us, praying is not enough...you have to worship God on Sunday.
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And maybe they're worshiping God on Sunday NOT at church
 
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Never could quite understand why we would look to what others do to justify our own actions. Whether they are worshiping them or not is irrelevant. The point is that the action itself is inappropriate.
You do understand this is precisely how the Pharisees saw Jesus.
He hung out with sinners - ergo He was a sinner. Not be trusted - He had harlots, taxpayers and whatnot in His company.

Careful in stating what others are doing - when you are not a reader of hearts. Outward appearances mean nothing - this is why we shouldnt assume.


Well that's another subject ya know.



The fact is that bowing is linked to worship. That's the point.
Not always.
Its also reverence...and humans have done this throughout history.
Kings and Queens were bowed to as customary - that doesnt mean we worship them - it means we 'revere' and honor their office.

Also - let me add Lot bowed to angels - and he was not rebuked.
Its called reverence - we revere venerable offices, statesmen and ppl.

We worship God.
That is - all praise and glory are His and we give thanks to Him for all things.
Actions neither make nor break what worship is - but where our hearts lie.
You err.
Bowing down is a form we take in worship - bowing down is not worship.
It's called reverence. And there are levels of reverence - as i already explained.
Worship is not just speaking to God... such is the word prayer - which means to talk to. Another error in interpretation.
Prayer is asking and requesting.
That can be done with anyone - but often folks singularly use it in reference to speaking and requesting from God.
Pray tell you understand me.

Worship is giving glory and praise to the Lord. This vastly differs from reverence given to a venerable being [judge, king, queen, statesmen, angel, saint etc]

Here's a better question for you, how often in the scripture do we see worship linked with dancing or singing in comparrison to bowing or falling prostrate?

Was Lot worshiping the angel?
One would think he would be excluded from being saved being he was sinning - worshiping an angel outside of God.

The issue is this - modern times have lost understanding of the root to actions.
 
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That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church...

Elizabeth gave a glad cry and exclaimed to Mary,
"God has blessed you above all women...

Thank goodness that isnt ALL we base anything on...


Again, I am not a fan of saying that the poor, hungry or homeless are in that condition because they lack faith...

Next you will be telling me that I can receive a great spiritual blessing if I send you a check...give me a break.
 
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Weekday Mass is different from Sunday Mass. Sunday may not be a holy day for you, but for Christians,
Oh no you DIDENT!



we worship on the day of the Resurrection.
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I am a Christian.
I worship every day!

Jesus Christ is my rest
(That's what Sabbath means )

We can have church meetins any day we want to.
 
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Thank goodness that isnt ALL we base anything on...


Again, I am not a fan of saying that the poor, hungry or homeless are in that condition because they lack faith...
And again, it's not ME who said it.
Sheesh, I just gave you 7 passages of GOD telling folks WHY
they were lacking bread, healing and help.
And HE said that it was lack of faith.
Maybe you're smarter than God LOL

Next you will be telling me that I can receive a great spiritual blessing if I send you a check...give me a break.
We reap what we sow and therefore if you bless someone
you'll be blessed, so yeah, sending me a blessing would
cause you to receive blessing.
But I'm all set, thanks anyhow.
As for the insults, I'm guessing they
also are subject to God's principle
of sowing and reaping.
 
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I am a Christian.
I worship every day!

Jesus Christ is my rest
(That's what Sabbath means )

We can have church meetins any day we want to.

YES! Why do people say "We should worship God on (insert favorite day here - mine's Wednesday!)" when we really ought to give more than that?

Amen! Hey, is that the Son? Shine, Jesus, Shine!
 
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YES! Why do people say "We should worship God on (insert favorite day here - mine's Wednesday!)" when we really ought to give more than that?

Amen! Hey, is that the Son? Shine, Jesus, Shine!
Shine Jesus Shine!
Fill this land with
the Father's Glory

Havent heard that in forever!
And today's national day of prayer
My favorite day of the year .

Here we go!

Shine Jesus Shine - YouTube
 
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Shine Jesus Shine!
Fill this land with
the Father's Glory

Havent heard that in forever!
And today's national day of prayer
My favorite day of the year .

This is my FAVORITE worship song. Like, of all time. And today is a great day to pray!
 
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