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[jewellj]

Hello,i'm still new here.I had some ladies to visit me and they are from Freedom in Christ Ministires. I made lunch for them and they came to visit me in Springfield from Knoxville area. We went thru the Steps to Freedom based on Neil Anderson's books like Bondage Breaker and Victory over Darkness. They say some people get instaneous diverance from going thru the steps.It took several hours cause the forgivness issue was a hard step but I got thru it. When they left I thought i would have total victory and freedom and the thoughts are still here.???What's wrong with me,it sets other free instaneously and what about me.I had horrid thoughts last night.but I'm still gonna drag myself to church tomorrow. Has anybody ever had this problem ????????I'm I doomed????????I'm very confused cause I know God's Word works. Please respond to my thread and please pray for me hard I need it terribely. PLEASE

 

[Ruukasu]

Many saints in the past had this problem when submitting to God. Our sinful thinking, whether from spritual attack or not will lead us into horrible thoughts that we must lean on grace for no matter what they are.

Martin Luther locked himself in a room because of how sinful he was. John Bunyan thought he was unforgiven. Lady Faustina went through a period in her life when she had bad thoughts about Holy things.

It is often an occurring problem when submitting to God completely. But check this out, you're already forgiven for all your sin. The promise we have received from God far outways everything that comes into our heads. What is the promise? Eternal life through Jesus Christ.

 

[Jayangel81]

Many saints in the past had this problem when submitting to God. Our sinful thinking, whether from spritual attack or not will lead us into horrible thoughts that we must lean on grace for no matter what they are.

Martin Luther locked himself in a room because of how sinful he was. John Bunyan thought he was unforgiven. Lady Faustina went through a period in her life when she had bad thoughts about Holy things.

It is often an occurring problem when submitting to God completely. But check this out, you're already forgiven for all your sin. The promise we have received from God far outways everything that comes into our heads. What is the promise? Eternal life through Jesus Christ.

Amen to that!

He is right no way are you doomed in any way,(there was a period where i thought that to) there are so many ppl that have these problems, Put youre care into God he will heal you, i promise. that is what he wants.

Just remember God loves you more than you could ever imagine, that is why he gave up his only Begotten son. so he can be with you for all eternity. i will say a prayer for you.

in Christ,
James

 

[QUannie]

I am praying for you!!!!
Q

 

[OptimisticSmile]

I dont want to downgrade what may be a genuine healing work of God but you have to keep in mind that Healing comes in Gods timing and there isnt a instantaneous miraculous cure or step by step approach that works for everyone. The healing is entirely up to God although we must be willing to work with him as he leads us out of whatever we are struggking with.

I had social anxiety and was painfully shy for most of my life and i prayed about it so much and it never seemed like God was providing healing and id be like "God whats up with this, anxiety is a sin and im giving it to you to be reomved from my life yet its still there"

eventually I became like a new person but there is anxiety and shyness that pops up from time to time. you just have to trust that God knows what he is doing.

until recently I viewed my shyness and anxiety as being a "thorn in the flesh" somehow God is being glorified or will be glorified in the future by your struggle otherwise he'd have removed it.

his thoughts are higher than our thoughts
Romans 8:28 is a promise so it has to be true in respect to your OCD struggle. if you never get the healing on earth praise God you will never have to suffer again in Heaven.

 

[jewellj]

This is me again with more concerns. Why does the bad thoughts come out of my mouth? Has anybody ever had this bad experience? Does it mean i said blasphemy? I wasn't trying to say the thoughts outload. My ocd counselor said I had a verbal tic but I think she just said that because she didn't want me to be upset. I had a very bad day at my MOM's today with family there and u can't say ur compulsions in front of family. I sometimes wonder if I'm self destructive and if ur having these thougths cause u are will God forgive U? I don't know what to do,I feel suicidal at some times and right now I'm very low. The thoughts that went thru my mind today was uncalled for. Someone please answer this thread please.Pray for Me please.

 

[jewellj]

please will someone read the thread I wrote before this one and tell me what to do or they have experience a problem of this sort. these things coming out of my mouth

 

[joshua41]

i'm also from tennessee : ) GO PREDATORS

About your post...

I had bad thoughts before but it really peaked at the time I went to californiai last summer. I had so many bad thoughts run through my head constantly it was awful-and ontop of that I felt a spiritual block between me and god. It didn't exist but my mind had placed it there...

I prayed to God and Jesus and I no longer have these thoughts in my head, however I'm worried about a few things that I've said.

1) I read the blasphemy verse in mathew before I became a publically confessed christrian and bad thoughts entered my head and I felt inclined tosay something. I didn't say it in malice or ill contempt , however I did say something
2) In a case of extreme self pity I mumbled something about God. It seems sometimes I get upset because of my lusts and I discount God's word and I love myself more- but I know I should read the Bible.
3) Another time I had convinced myself I had committed ht eunpardonable sin and I was constantly telling my self I was doomed. (going to hell) I said this over and over in my mind and i accidently said it out loud without realizing really. This sounds more like you than any of my other situations.
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the bottom line is that God does love you and that these thoughts will never take that away. i understand that it is extremely difficult being that you can't see the other side yet-but someday these thoughts will subside. just pray to god and Jesus and most importantly read the Bible. I don't think you can overcome this without reading the bible, and believe me, I know you feel that you can't read the Bible, but it's pertinent in overcoming your problem.
ill pray for you!!! jewel! amen

 

[StephenDM]

I have been in a similar place. The day I was baptized I was depressed. However, just because you don't
see your deliverance does not mean its not there.
Consider this verse:

Jesus said to him, "Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are the people who have not seen and yet have believed." - John 20:29 (NET)

The trouble you are feeling right now just may be God's way of saving up extra blessing for you in heaven. See also Matthew 5:3-4 and Romans 8:23-25

I can see four reasons why God has not healed my own mental illness:

1. To continually prove his unnatural selection (1 Cor. 1:26-28)
2. To continually prove the inability of any person to keep the whole law (Romans 3:19-20)
3. To teach me to associate with the lowly (Proverbs 16:19)
4. To bless me and glorify himself by some day giving me supernatural healing or by not giving me supernatural healing - God is not diminished by either outcome (2 Cor. 12:7-10; Romans 8:28)

 

[stacii]

There are no shortcuts through life or any of its struggles, no matter how many steps you take. Faith, healing and freedom take time and energy. God does not want our relationship with him to be about taking ten steps, because what happens when those ten steps are done? Are you done with God? Are you everything that you can become? God desires intimacy, friendship and closeness with us. When I meet people I don't try to become their friend by following ten steps for friend making.

Trust me, I have battled depression since I was in my teens and have REALLY battled OCD since last year. I bet I have taken 3654687657 steps and I'm still struggling. Who on this board isn't? If I was instantly cured I would be somewhere else right now. that being said I am WINNING this battle. I pray to God about this every night, without fail. I pray for his strength to continue the fight against OCD - because as soon as I get lazy it all comes crashing down on me like a ton of bricks. I take medication, I talk to my pastor, i go to therapy, I talk to my family when I am struggling, I am a part of this message board...the list goes on. Yes, with God's help you CAN get control of this illness, but it is not as easy as a ten step program. And, looking back at my treatment, I wouldn't want it to be. Through my struggle God has brought me so much close to him...much closer than 8 simple steps would have.

I will pray for you. If you ever seriously feel suicidal tell someone who can help you right away. Getting help does not make you weak or crazy. It makes you strong and honest about your weaknesses - and the sooner you get it the sooner you will feel better. and you WILL feel better...

 

[BeccaLynn]

Hello, I know exactly the books you are speaking of. I have the book The Bondage Breaker and the workbook about steps to freedom in Christ. I have also been to a seminar at a church that taught on how to go through the steps yourself. Honestly, when I read some of the book (I couldn't stand to read the whole thing page for page because I kept trying to find the things that related to my issues), I felt overwhelmed by all of the information. I tried to contact someone in Knoxville by the Freedom In Christ website, but didn't get in contact with the man who was on the list. I know that God can and does heal, but someone who has OCD can go over and over those steps never feeling as if we have repented of every single thing in our lives or traced back enough in our family tree to find out our "family sins" that need to be repented of. I'm not saying it cannot happen the way Dr. Anderson says, but when I was reading the book I became more fearful and anxious. I've decided that there are just some things that I cannot read. Please don't give up hope. People tell the positive results and success stories people have had in books, not of the ones that didn't find healing in that manner. I'm sure there are many others who have gone through those "steps" as well who felt just as stuck and hopeless afterwards as you have described. You are definitely not alone!
Rebecca

 

[Ketsagirl]

You have to daily give your fears over to God. I have done that book too. I still have problems with OCD. Sometimes I think God allows us to have these problems or "weaknesses", "thorns in the flesh", so we will see we can not do it on our own, we have to turn it over to him. We need him. When we are weak, he is strong. I know how hard it is. It really stinks. Trust in God, when you feel the fear, turn to him, ask him for the strength/wisdom daily to conquer this.