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Some are more sinful than others?

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Icer757

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I've been pursuing a relationship with God for a while now, and some of the things that have been holding me back have come to my attention. It is, in fact, sin. Not the kind of sin that has been so often mentioned to me though, but a different aspect of it.

I'm sure many of you are familiar with the saying, "some are more equal than others." and I've noticed that this kind of works for something I'm dealing with. All of us are sinful, this is a given. However, "some are more sinful than others." We sin, so we are all equally sinful . . . But it's kind of just like throwing the lable of sinful on something while having various degrees of it.

Think of it like this, "Here, this tastes a little bit like lemon, let's call it lemon flavored. This, this IS a lemon, it too shall be called lemon flavored." I know it's kind of a bad example, but you hopefully get what I mean.

I know it is not any Christian's intent to come off as holier than thou, and many, many of you don't. However, that does not change the perceptions people like me who are very, very young in our faith. I look around me at Christians who I admire, and trust, and I can't help but feel utterly inadequate. It is not because they are not sinful, and I am terribly sinful . . . It's just kind of demoralizing to realizing just how sinful you are, and to feel like you could never actually fit in with this people for this reason. By fit in, I mean feel a part of and worship together without apprehension.

I know I'm not the only one who feels held back by their sins. I know that it is not the fault of others that I feel this way, however, the fact remains that it is something I have to deal with. Coming out of a sinful life while still completely surrounded by sin is in no way easy. I can't just go up to my family and be like, "Hey, you need to stop doing that, it's wrong!" They just will, and do, laugh at me. Sin was rampant in my life up until recently, when I learned how to deal with it. I'm still dealing with the after-affects of it though, and they are very strong.

This understanding of my situation tries to prevent a relationship with other believers, and tries (but does fail often) to obstruct my relationship with God. I know this could boil down to a self-confidence issue, but the fact of the matter is is that the sins of someone recently coming in to a relationship with God seem absolutely overpowering compared to someone who has had a relationship with God their entire life, or even someone who found God several years ago. We are all sinful, but some are more sinful than others in their own eyes. How do those of us who feel this way cope with it?

This just leads me to be bitter over the fact that I wasn't born into a relationship with God. That I had to come into this relationship after I realized what I was doing was wrong. I know it's not a matter of being fair, that we all have to deal with the hand we're dealt, but this whole thing is just aggravating.

I've been thinking that it was just a matter of completely disregarding my sins when it comes to the growth of my faith. Not to ignore the fact that what I've done is wrong, and what I will do is wrong, but to not let them bog me down.
 

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Icer757 said:
Sin was rampant in my life up until recently, when I learned how to deal with it. I'm still dealing with the after-affects of it though, and they are very strong.

This understanding of my situation tries to prevent a relationship with other believers, and tries (but does fail often) to obstruct my relationship with God. I know this could boil down to a self-confidence issue, but the fact of the matter is is that the sins of someone recently coming in to a relationship with God seem absolutely overpowering compared to someone who has had a relationship with God their entire life, or even someone who found God several years ago. We are all sinful, but some are more sinful than others in their own eyes. How do those of us who feel this way cope with it?

This just leads me to be bitter over the fact that I wasn't born into a relationship with God. That I had to come into this relationship after I realized what I was doing was wrong. I know it's not a matter of being fair, that we all have to deal with the hand we're dealt, but this whole thing is just aggravating.
Actually, people like you have the best testimonies and I hate to say it, but find it easier to love God and love people.

"Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little." - Luke 7:47

Besides, no one is born into a relationship with God anyway. Even if you're born into a Christian family you still need to come to the realization that you're a sinner, you deserve hell, and Jesus' death and resurrection can save you from that. You also need to take that step and become a follower of Jesus. That's not easy as a little kid, taking that final step and taking it seriously.

Icer757 said:
I've been thinking that it was just a matter of completely disregarding my sins when it comes to the growth of my faith. Not to ignore the fact that what I've done is wrong, and what I will do is wrong, but to not let them bog me down.
Once your sins are forgiven, they are gone. Outta here forever. That doesn't mean that their effects won't still touch you and the lives of those you've hurt, but God forgives you anyway. Once you've become a Christian according to the Bible, you are at the beginning of a new life.
 
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Sin is definatly a tool of the devil. He will try to make you feel inadequet and put any wedge between you, God and believers he can. ALL of us deal with sin, even those who have know God for years (backsliders). No sin is greater than another is no sinner is less or greater than another. Your experience no only offers others encouragement but gives you incite to help others. I have at times been angry I was not raised Christian and known God soon but I finally realized He does everything in His time, not ours. Don't let guilt keep you from sharing with other Christians. Lay it a Christ's feet and move on. That is the wonderful gift he gives us, removing our burden's. Good luck!!
 
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All sin is abhorrent in God's eyes. We are all sinners without the redemption of Christ's blood and nobody has any reason to feel better than someone else.

Just one sin puts us out of God's reach, no matter what it is. That's why I'm so thankful to Jesus - for without Him, I would be dead.

You should not feel inadequate - in fact, the perspectives you have written make me feel that you have an advanced understanding of the issue.
 
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There's are numerous types of sin, whether you lie, steal, murder, covet, ect. All those sins have one thing in common even though they are different compared against one another....it makes us fall short of the glory God (Rom. 3:23). Stealing and murder are two totally different sins, but they have one thing in common...falling short. I was one who was raised christian, but even after 25plus years of being a christian I still stumble in my walk with Christ. I sometimes catch myself looking at others and thinking "why can't I be like him/her in their walk with God?" I still fall into a trap of sin and God is the only one who can pull me out of the pit when I call upon Him.

Matthew 9:12 On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: "I desire mercy, not sacrifice. For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.

Jesus did not just come for the ones who were raised in christian homes, He came for the sinners who need Him. He came to heal the sick, the ones who are stuck in a sinful life and to show them that there is a path out of that life. Don't expect to go from being a "baby" christian to an "adult" christian over night. He will put you on a gradual life changing course. He will fine tune you.

As for your family, well that's when your actions will speak louder than words. I don't mean slapping them upside the head with the bible. They will notice a change in you and may question it. That's when you can subtly tell them that you don't this certain thing anymore because you don't have that desire. You can leave it at that. They may eventually come around to ask "why" out of curiosity and then you can at that point mention that you are overcoming the temptation with God's help and that you don't want to do that certain thing anymore for it could stumble your walk with God. You may not be comfortable with telling them about it yet, but show them you have changed with your actions...your fruit of the spirit.
 
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Amen, to all the people here.

Hey Matt,

You are a believer now. You do not have a sinful nature. You see things that you done. They aren't who you are now. A believer is no longer a sinner that is not our nature. You are a child of God. You see things that are bad in your life. You can feel there is something wrong in them. You don't quite understand at times. Yet, you have a feeling that something is up with that. Some where it is harmful and destructive and has no place in you now. Before you take one step more....It is not a law that God is giving you. He has already give you his spirit with salvation. It is a calling of free will to do what is good. It is not restrictive. You are now a holy person. Those things don't control you and you don't have to let them in your life. The realization of control is understanding the wisdom and accepting it. Angry shows itself in you in many ways...if you let it. Grief shows itself in you many ways...if you let it...none of them control you. It is joy and goodness we are here. It is joyful to encourage and help people. The "holier than thou" attitude comes when people force things on others and appear to be restrictive. Satan wants us to think God is restrictive...but good has restrictive in the way it is not bad. Remember Isaiah 43:18-19, I quoted to you? Turn away from things that aren't is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control and don't let the times you were have control over your life. If you have wrong a person ask for forgivenness. Don't let any sin get in the way of you speaking to God. He does not prevent you...but The Accusser wants you to think that.
 
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Can you imagine how easy it would be if all it took was slapping someone over the head with the Bible? It might become a game, really. "How many unbelievers did you slap?" "Oh, about 37, you?" "Hmph, only 29 . . ." Sorry, I just had a interesting picture form in my mind.

I'll, ah, stick another spin on the matter. I absolutely hate being judged. I hate it when people make an assumption based on some silly little thing and then act on it. And, well, from what I've experienced everyone pretty much judges everyone. It's how we, ah, get to know people. There are an extraordinarily small amount of people that I've met who I don't think judge me.

And it also becomes a matter of not just judging me. People like me have the best testimonies? Yes, I can understand that. However, when I say, "Yeah, I had to seek God "on my own" and find his forgiveness without support from my family . . ." What does that make people think about where I've come from? What do they think about my family, and those I've been around? Maybe it's just me, but I can't imagine anybody not taking a statement like that as it is, and not considering the family life. I really hate judgment.

I should probably say that I by no means am free of judging people. I just hate when it happens to me. And now that I've pretty much just answered my entire thing right there for myself . . .

I know really well that we should only focus on ourselves, and not take others into account. I've been told that in lots of things, and I know that it's true. It's just kind of irritating to know that the only one who truly forgives me for my sins is God. God, Jesus, ah, is it all right to use everything interchangeably? I've kind of been wondering about that . . .

So, uhm, I pretty much got the message hear. Heard and understood; I'll do my best to apply it.

You know, I don't think Prayer is emphasized enough. I think it's really a good thing. (I wonder if there's a clip I could link to in here with Martha Stewart saying that.)

Thank you and God bless,

- Matt
 
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If you are sitting around contemplating your sins - you might be suffering from a sin consciousness.
The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made you free from the law of sin and death.
Start living in Christ. Walk in Christ - Minister as Christ did. Do the works of Christ . Let the love of Christ come through you to others. Help others with their spiritual life. Lead them to higher things in Christ. Let the rivers of living water flow through you until eternity and never let them stop. There is no power on the earth or in heaven that can stop you from demonstrating Christ to the world.
 
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